Is a good OC Alicorn possible?

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The Wandering Magus

well, feel free to have whatever opinions you have... :\  Some more critical ponies here might have... issues though.
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Meh, it just didn't make sense for her to be an alicorn for me. Nonetheless, I applaud your efforts; it's very hard to make an alicorn OC that actually has character and a story rather than being over-obsessive with the "god-mode" aspect of alicorns.
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 ^-^ It was worth a shot, I guess. Thank you for your opinions, though. I'm hoping we exchanged some insight.
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GalvinRoe

2012 Dec 01, 23:57:46 #23 Last Edit: 2012 Dec 02, 00:16:53 by GalvinRoe
 Ahh, the Omnicorn, so difficult to use. I think that's because they've been established as princess and just in general 'important' poines. It seems to me . . . if you are born an alicorn you are born to responsabilities and a kind of 'fate' that destines them towards greatness, whether they want it or not. They are in essence the 'fated' character, which I  am just apposed to  lol!

Futhermore, we learn that Celestia and Luna are eternally youthfull  :I? Or maybe just live for an unprecedented ammount of years, whatever it is they aren't really aging yet . . . Of course this might not be the same for Cadice but anything there would just be conjecture  lol!

Still, I do believe a 'decent' Omnicorn OC is possible . . . but they'll probably be used as either the protagnist, some kind of antagonist or just an important 'force'.

I think your Alicorn is a fine example of these concepts: An alicorn would do very well as a judge, afterall she is in a terribly powerfull position. A judge presiding over most cases is nothing to scoff at . . . and watching over the contentment of ponies, she's got quite a job.

Ah well, she's a rather nice looking character, maybe even enough so that she warrents a story? But we know she can never be a player character in any role-play that doesn't have ONLY omnicorns  >.<.

BASICALLY everything you've already heard, and some almost needlessly repetitive confirmation on what an omnicorn is  lol, but it is my opinion, so there you are  lol!

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Night Pony

All of you say that the alicorn can't be in any roleplays. Though that depends much on the roleplay itself since I roleplay with an alicorn.  lol

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Quote from: Night Pony on 2012 Dec 02, 03:56:15
All of you say that the alicorn can't be in any roleplays. Though that depends much on the roleplay itself since I roleplay with an alicorn.  lol
Oh come on I didn't see a single roleplay on this forum that actually refused a pony signing up they might as well all be jump-in. Still I won't change my mind an alicorn is still a god in every way being able to do what all others can , and can't do. "She can't fly too well , and she prefers to stay on the ground." So? She can still fly , and use magic , and have strength. "He isn't good at magic , and usually does things hoove to hoove." He still has the ability to cast spells , control weather , and tune in with nature. "It isn't very strong , and doesn't know much about food." Yep still has the properties of every single other pony there is. It doesn't matter how week the ability is as long as the pony has it the OP level boosts up the scale. Think for a sec. A person makes a pegasi OC that can fly , and manipulate the weather , but then some pony comes up , and says "Hey! My alicorn can do that , AND do what unicorns , and earth ponies do , but hes week at it." So whats the difference? Still too op

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There are occasions that a pony is refused entry but most who know that they can't enter don't try it in the first place.

QuoteStill I won't change my mind an alicorn is still a god in every way being able to do what all others can , and can't do.


That is your opinion  and nopony can change it.

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alexandas

if you were actually a real pony and your mother was a pegasus and your father was a unicorn and you ended up an alicorn would you have a fate you couldn't change and have to be a pretty pink princess?  NO WAY.

So yah and if you had week powers yeah it doesnt change much, but still alicorns don't have to be gods/goddeses and if they are a regular pony that just happens to be an alicorn and aren't strong, then who cares, and besides natural non god alicorns wouldn't be overly strong they would just be a regular pony that HAPPENS TO BE AN ALICORN!

And lastly, yes you can't be a pony in real life but if you could and you were an alicorn you would only be a mutated unicorn or mutated pegasus so
>:O there I think I'm done




wait one more thing: I disagree with you therefore you are wrong lol
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Alex, you would be totally justified in that idea if you were writing a fanfiction of MLP. And maybe you should. That might be a really good story.

The problem is that the forum roleplaying and the LoE game (whenever it comes out), are just that, games. Games with multiple players.

Remember that this is an exercise in creativity. A made-up, pretend world. But at the same time, because it is made up and we can shape it as we see fit, we mold it to serve that game purpose. So, a lot of players(especially those who participate in less casual roleplay and follow a plot or story) have established an Equestria for themselves that does not have "normal" alicorns. And that's because at the end of the day, we all want to play fair.

Let's say you were playing, say, Monopoly with three friends, and you started out $500 more than everyone else playing. Now, that wouldn't guarantee that you were an amazing, super-duper champion monopoly player. You would still play at the same skill level you had with or without extra cash. But, I bet your friends would complain.

See, it's not about the world of Equestria, or concerns for alicorn equal rights. People around here are opposed because it unbalances the game they're playing.

Tiger

Quote from: alexandas on 2012 Dec 02, 12:01:57
if you were actually a real pony and your mother was a pegasus and your father was a unicorn and you ended up an alicorn would you have a fate you couldn't change and have to be a pretty pink princess?  NO WAY.

...One last time, I shall say this.

A unicorn and a pegasus DOES NOT MAKE AN ALICORN! Due to a very complicated DNA coding and genes, the chance of the child being an alicorn is probably only 0.0000000000001%!

MUST I REPEAT IT AGAIN. SERIOUSLY.

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Coffee Rush

What Tiger said. This also bugs me. But, from genes, I'm pretty sure, a unicorn and a pegasus can have an earth pony, pegasus, or a unicorn.
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Quote from: Coffee Rush on 2012 Dec 02, 21:16:20
What Tiger said. This also bugs me. But, from genes, I'm pretty sure, a unicorn and a pegasus can have an earth pony, pegasus, or a unicorn.


Not without recessive Earth pony DNA.

Morning Glory

2012 Dec 02, 23:46:48 #32 Last Edit: 2012 Dec 03, 00:00:31 by Morning Glory
Tiger, I get that you're trying to make a point, but the giant all-caps text is unnecessary. Some people haven't learned what you've learned. Give them the benefit of the doubt, and offer information politely. And the genetics aren't that complicated at all. Mendelian genetics are actually quite simple and elegant. Just some people haven't learned how alleles and gene expression works yet.

As for pony genetics, here's the running theory below. Most of the genetic theories from fans do not support an alicorn offspring at all. It just wouldn't be happening- we'd see alicorns other than the princesses running around. I think a lot of these theories consider alicorns a different species, where unicorns, pegasi, and earth ponies are all just different phenotypes of one species.






Tiger

Quote from: Morning Glory on 2012 Dec 02, 23:46:48
Tiger, I get that you're trying to make a point, but the giant all-caps text is unnecessary. Some people haven't learned what you've learned. Give them the benefit of the doubt, and offer information politely. And the genetics aren't that complicated at all. Mendelian genetics are actually quite simple and elegant. Just some people haven't learned how alleles and gene expression works yet.

I told him that unicorn and pegasus does not equal alicorn before this, and yet he does it again  >:(

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Morning Glory

Yelling at him won't get your point across any better. Besides, a lot of this is speculation anyways. We can't be certain in anything, since we aren't the show creators, and they haven't confirmed anything much in the field of pony genetics.

alexandas

Quote from: Tiger on 2012 Dec 03, 00:14:41
Quote from: Morning Glory on 2012 Dec 02, 23:46:48
Tiger, I get that you're trying to make a point, but the giant all-caps text is unnecessary. Some people haven't learned what you've learned. Give them the benefit of the doubt, and offer information politely. And the genetics aren't that complicated at all. Mendelian genetics are actually quite simple and elegant. Just some people haven't learned how alleles and gene expression works yet.

I told him that unicorn and pegasus does not equal alicorn before this, and yet he does it again  >:(

let's say it's an insane mutation, and still heres a nice thing to know: I HARDLY REMEMBER MY OWN AGE MUCH LESS RANDOM INFO, oh and if it's in a large post i likely won't read it, so calm down tiger, and besides exactly what morning glory said we aren't the creators

this isn't real life

i don't remember a thing about you tellin me

and
>:O so calm you hooves tiger
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The Silent Wolf

Quote from: Tiger on 2012 Dec 03, 00:29:29
Yeah yeah, I have mild autism you see, I get worked up easily  :l No one ever understands me.
I have aspergers, I think I understand you. >.<

Also I think a good alacorn OC is possible, but you must work very hard to make them balanced, like if they are mainly keen in magic, have it so they can't fly and are very weak. If they are mainly keen in flying, have their magic very very weak like only unicorn filly magic, and are very weak. If they are mainly keen in strength have them very very weak in magic and unable to fly. Only then can they be almost balanced, as a race is just a race.
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Quote from: The Silent Wolf on 2012 Dec 03, 09:32:27
Quote from: Tiger on 2012 Dec 03, 00:29:29
Yeah yeah, I have mild autism you see, I get worked up easily  :l No one ever understands me.
I have aspergers, I think I understand you. >.<

Also I think a good alacorn OC is possible, but you must work very hard to make them balanced, like if they are mainly keen in magic, have it so they can't fly and are very weak. If they are mainly keen in flying, have their magic very very weak like only unicorn filly magic, and are very weak. If they are mainly keen in strength have them very very weak in magic and unable to fly. Only then can they be almost balanced, as a race is just a race.


Then the question is why not make the OC from the other races?

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Wow, I wondered how long this would take to turn into a debate... >.<
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