Regarding Cease and Desists..

[McSleuthburger]

I hope you guys know they already know what they were violating when they received the C&D
each C&D has to have what is violating so then the changes can be made
I mean I didnt see the C&D so there might be more than just the characters (though that is by far the biggest one)
Im sure they are looking at all of there options
either way they would need to take down their site and such until the changes are made

[The Wandering Magus]

how long do copyrights last?  maybe next time somepony just goes and plops down enough money to buy the copyright/trademark faster than Hasbro can.  I might convince a friend to get his venture capitalist father to purchase it.  I wonder how much it costs to purchase rights like that.

[Rissian]

Copyright and TM's can last a very long time some last 80 years.

[McSleuthburger]

Long time.....

http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-duration.html

the cost is not bad though a regular copyright is about 30-50 dollars though I dont know when it comes to bigger things (might be more)

[The Wandering Magus]

maybe my dad can convince his lawyer friends to sue the company, or one of my uncles to get majority shares.

[Night Pony]

Anyway I think remaking the G4 ponies to look like the earlier versions is the best idea since they already have the colours in place for the different fighters and they can keep the move set.

[McSleuthburger]

maybe my dad can convince his lawyer friends to sue the company, or one of my uncles to get majority shares.

I dont see how that would really accomplish anything, it would be more trouble for what it is worth

Anyway I think remaking the G4 ponies to look like the earlier versions is the best idea since they already have the colours in place for the different fighters and they can keep the move set.

Depends on whether Hasbro might have those or if Faust would have them im thinking
im not really sure how that would work

[Night Pony]

Anyway I think remaking the G4 ponies to look like the earlier versions is the best idea since they already have the colours in place for the different fighters and they can keep the move set.

Depends on whether Hasbro might have those or if Faust would have them im thinking
im not really sure how that would work

The first characters aren't property of Hasbro and hence it could work if the other owner doesn't send C&D but since we do not see them I doubt they will much care.

[LostSanity]

"Trademark" is just another word for "screwing the fandom"

[CyanideInsanity]

"Trademark" is just another word for "screwing the fandom"

Not really. To shown an example, let's look at nintendo. Their company's symbol

Spoiler: show

is the company name inside whatever you'd call that shape... Now another company named *win*tendo starts making things. There's quite a lot of clueless people out there who could potentially purchase a 'win'tendo product mistaking it for a nintendo product. Do you see where I'm going with this?

[Chishio Kunrin]

Anyway I think remaking the G4 ponies to look like the earlier versions is the best idea since they already have the colours in place for the different fighters and they can keep the move set.

Depends on whether Hasbro might have those or if Faust would have them im thinking
im not really sure how that would work

The first characters aren't property of Hasbro and hence it could work if the other owner doesn't send C&D but since we do not see them I doubt they will much care.

^^^ Like I said, Faust's designs of the 1st gen ponies that Hasbro doesn't have rights over anymore. The only problem would be Applejack. She's the only 1st gen pony Faust drew who Hasbro still has rights for.

I still kinda like the idea of OCs "inspired by" the mane six with different names, who're kinda sorta "knockoffs".

Pinkie Pie = Cake Delight?
Rainbow Dash = Spectrum Flash?
Twilight Sparkle = Sunset Twinkle?
Applejack = Cider Jack?
Rarity = Scarce Gem? Unique Mystique?
Fluttershy = Butterfly Grace?

[Seriack]

Wonder if Lauren would draw straight up OC ponies for the game, that way the move sets could remain, like lots of you said you wanted. I mean, it can't be too hard to draw a few new ponies, 2 of each race and all. And enough names have thrown around.

Makes me wonder why all the random pony games on the App Store ((like the one with a picture of Babs Seed)) haven't been C&D'd yet... And they're selling those, sure for only 0.99$, but that's still a dollar more than Fighting is Magic.

[The Wandering Magus]

Wonder if Lauren would draw straight up OC ponies for the game, that way the move sets could remain, like lots of you said you wanted. I mean, it can't be too hard to draw a few new ponies, 2 of each race and all. And enough names have thrown around.

Makes me wonder why all the random pony games on the App Store ((like the one with a picture of Babs Seed)) haven't been C&D'd yet... And they're selling those, sure for only 0.99$, but that's still a dollar more than Fighting is Magic.

because life's not fair and Hasbro hates its own fans.

[rhyme writer]

I've done some research on all of this and I have to say, I'm ok with Hasbro doing this. Mind you I hate it, but it does have its good marks. Since there at plans floating around for them to use OCs the game still has a faint heartbeat so if no one kicks it, it may recover. As far as the good done by Hasbro (though small), it defends the franchise being associated with possibly worse things. I'd hate for some loon to say, "Fighting is magic got through, so mortal combat with ponies is ok too." or something to that effect. Basically it keeps the franchise, and sorta by extension us, from becoming open to much worse associations. Fighting is Magic is nice, clean, cartoony violence, but Hasbro wants to nip it in the bud and make sure the franchise doesn't become popular for the wrong reasons.

This is entirely my opinion and my take on the matter. I'm still upset that Hasbro did what they did (they could have played nice and said "Don't use our ponies, please.") but it does have reasonable points to it. And the fact that Faust came up with ideas to help makes e feel that this game is still possible, so lets just do as we do, and just love and tolerate the *yay* out of Hasbro.

[Julius]

love and tolerate the *yay* out of Hasbro.

I'll tolerate alright. I'm out of love for Hasbro...

[LostSanity]

"Trademark" is just another word for "screwing the fandom"

Not really. To shown an example, let's look at nintendo. Their company's symbol

Spoiler: show

is the company name inside whatever you'd call that shape... Now another company named *win*tendo starts making things. There's quite a lot of clueless people out there who could potentially purchase a 'win'tendo product mistaking it for a nintendo product. Do you see where I'm going with this?

Mane 6 =/= Hasbro.

That's obvious.

Nope. Still no problem.

[Chishio Kunrin]

"Trademark" is just another word for "screwing the fandom"

Not really. To shown an example, let's look at nintendo. Their company's symbol

Spoiler: show

is the company name inside whatever you'd call that shape... Now another company named *win*tendo starts making things. There's quite a lot of clueless people out there who could potentially purchase a 'win'tendo product mistaking it for a nintendo product. Do you see where I'm going with this?

Mane 6 =/= Hasbro.

That's obvious.

Nope. Still no problem.

If I recall, Fighting is Magic's full name was My Little Pony: Fighting is Magic. Therein lies some trademark issues. The game's name was advertising itself as being part of My Little Pony. Plus, the official ponies from the show are copyright/trademarked by Hasbro.

As long as they remove "My Little Pony" from the game's name and start using OCs with different cutie marks and names, I think it'll turn out alright.

[CyanideInsanity]

Spoiler: show

"Trademark" is just another word for "screwing the fandom"

Not really. To shown an example, let's look at nintendo. Their company's symbol [spoiler]

is the company name inside whatever you'd call that shape... Now another company named *win*tendo starts making things. There's quite a lot of clueless people out there who could potentially purchase a 'win'tendo product mistaking it for a nintendo product. Do you see where I'm going with this?

[/spoiler]

Mane 6 =/= Hasbro.

That's obvious.

Nope. Still no problem.
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While that's true to most in the fandom chances are those outside don't know anything; and therein lies the problem! Hasbro has no problem with it in regards to us. The problem they face is having to uphold their property in legal terms, and with preventing things from our side effecting those who aren't.

If people flipped out about derpy, how do you think they'd react if they thought a fighting game was made by hasbro? It seems to be human nature to shoot and 'not' ask questions later. People also rarely like to admit they're wrong. You may say hasbro needs to ignore them, but if they do that there is quite a real possibility of monetary loss to follow, which could lead to frayed ties between them and us.

[Firefly]

I'm not sure if this comment has been mentioned in the earlier posts, but I'll just drop this quote from the official Mane6 site...

(c) Jesey1

"I'm also gonna repost something that is lost in the jumble below.

Everypony! Stop freaking out! Mane6 did NOT even confirm if the email/letter is invalid or fake!

If the email/letter doesn't have an Official Signature then it is invalid and whatever is said in it can be ignored and shouldn't take effect.

If there is NO signature at all, Mane6 can simply ignore it and continue their work as they pleased because it is most likely fake. I highly doubt Hasbro will be dumb enough to forget a signature cause if they did and then tried to take Mane6 to court, Mane6 will win the case cause of the fact of no signature at all.

If it does have a signature, make sure it is official. To do so, simply go to Hasbro's site and somewhere they should shown their official signature of their documents. If the official one doesn't match with the one on the letter/email then that letter/email is unofficial and can be ignored. If Mane6 does go to court, all they need to do is show a picture of the official signature and a picture of the unofficial one and say that they thought that the email/letter was fake, since the signatures did not match.

Now, if it was an email... Faking an email address is easy. Give me a few days and I can prolly send tons of fake C&D emails to people easily, though I wont. Also, if it is fake then don't expect Hasbro to do anything cause they most likely don't give a flying buck at all... It is extremely rare for a company to step in and say "That's not us"... Especially to something as small as Fighting is Magic...

How do I know this? Personal experience. I use to get tons of fake emails that was said to be from Jagex when I use to play RuneScape long ago... What they had in common? No signature. But when I got an email from a real person from a company, it had a signature and I was able to compare it to the signature on the official site for that company... Also, Jagex doesn't give a flying buck about those fake emails. They
never get involved at all cause it is just a small thing compared to them that doesn't mean anything at all... All they said is simply ignore it and they only said it once... It's posted somewhere in their forums or on their site, if I remember correctly.

So ye'h. @ Mane6: Check that letter/email. If it doesn't have an
official signature then continue your work and simply ignore it since it is most likely fake.

Why did I thought of this? I remember something about Hasbro knowing about this since early 2012 so why did Hasbro wait? I came up with three solutions to my question! 1: Hasbro is being a http://forum.legendsofequestria.com/index.php?topic=2470.0">Read the forum rules.. 2: Someone was fired and replaced. The replacement made the decision to send the email/letter. or 3: It is fake cause someone doesn't want to see the game come out or come to the Evo event. Kinda funny how this C&D letter/email came about not long after the whole Evo thing, right? Coincidence? So ye'h...

Now if it was truly faked and the people who sent that fake email/letter are prolly reading our comments and laughing at us. If this is true then I got something to say to them... Come at me bro(s)!

That is all. I'm done now."

To be honest, I think this guys has a point

[Ryo_D_Disk]

Im just going to say this final point
All the arguments and points made about this subject have been said and done, whether the document is real fake or whatever, as long as we support it in a positive manner with love and tolerance then all will work out. But from here onwards this thread, I can foresee it becoming a large scale argument about the legal system and how Hasbro "are bad " for protecting products so let's just call it all said and done, continue to sign the petitions and end this debate