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Legends of Equestria Discussion / Re: A thread to help people be up to speed on LoE

2013 Jun 09, 23:55:17

So if you got a Key-lime Pie cutie mark, then you'd probably do well hanging out at Sugar Cube corner?

Not literally, but that's the idea

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News Archive / Re: Legends of Equestria announces Open Server Weekend Spectacular!

2013 Jun 08, 12:30:40

So, are there new features we can expect to taste in this new open servers phase? 

Check out the livestreams/recordings of our panel at Fiesta Equestria. I believe we'll be showcasing the game during it and we'll be going over many of the new features. Fiesta Equestria is from June 27th-29th, which is a week before Everfree Northwest.

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News Archive / Re: Legends of Equestria announces Open Server Weekend Spectacular!

2013 Jun 07, 14:32:29

Just curious: if we still have the files from the pre-Alpha event (I'll admit, I didn't bother removing them), does that mean we won't have to download again and will just have to download a patch or something? Or will it have to be a completely fresh (re)install?

You will have to delete and re-download the game. We don't have a working updater yet, and don't forget that all the progress we make isn't just on the server. You need the client data to be updated too.

The question i'd like to ask was, will our characters stay intact or do we still have the characters within account? (If you guys what I mean)

Due to the space your characters took up, that we have to continually make changes that make even our characters out of date, and that being able to make your character start out as a stallion/mare is cheating in a way because the full game won't be like that, your characters have since, and will be after this stress-test too, removed.

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Legends of Equestria Discussion / Re: Legends of Equestria Wikia Page

2013 Jun 06, 18:48:32

um im wondering if i could play legends of equestria

If you join us at the conventions we're attending at the end of this month, you'll be able to play there.

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The Retirement Home / Re: Emergency!!!

2013 Jun 04, 13:20:49

Trying to picture Twilight Sparkle with Morgan Freeman's face is kind of hard.

I know. The epicness is so hard to to even wrap your head around

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Resolved Issues / Re: Mobile Mode?

2013 Jun 02, 11:46:58

Yeah, it has a touch screen. But it won't respond to the scroll bar. It counts it as being part of the text box, so trying to drag it down just counts as tapping a text box.

That's an issue with the browser. The text boxes and scrolling used here are the same as any other website, so it's all handled by the browser.

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The Retirement Home / Re: Regarding this tension in the air...

2013 May 31, 15:07:49

We ask for info , and reasons , and without answer. No proof that there has been any progress on the game. The whole Swebow , and Dandy thing show how unfair the team leaders are. I'm staying on the forums , but right now I hate most of the team (Not all. Tekner just because I argued with you doesn't mean I hate you. In fact i'm glad you gave us some information , or at least tried to.) I also barely care about the game. Right now I'm only here for the community.

That's your choice. I'm sorry you don't like the answers we gave you, but we did answer everything you asked save for a few which will answer themselves in due time.

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The Retirement Home / Re: Regarding this tension in the air...

2013 May 30, 18:39:03

A semi-topical selfish question here- Why was this thread made the day after the explanation behind SweBow's removal? Just 'cuz it was funny? I personally was very hurt by it, along with a few other comments made by team members seemingly mocking the whole situation. Comments made in public. For some reason.
If we are to believe that LoE cares about its image and how its fans view how well the team works, why and how are these things in existence? I get that the work environment is to be really informal for the sake of progression (and because fun team is best team), but I can't help but question the current professional boundaries that are in place.

It's there for the same reason I made my comment that offended you. As said, we're over what happened and at the time we thought that lightening the situation and showing through humor that we're over it was the best way to "pave the way" to recovery. Obviously that didn't go over well, which prompted me to take the serious approach I did a few pages later in this thread.

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The Retirement Home / Re: Regarding this tension in the air...

2013 May 30, 17:21:43

I have a copy of her first post in HTML in case this was ever brought up. It contained no cursing all it contained was one vulgar word which a mod had already edited out. ... Very few rules that are listed on the forum were broken in that post ...

Don't forget, I do too. I've even shown it to you, so you know that I'm using the same post. Her post broke the following rules as far as I can see:

• 1. The Golden Rule - This one is iffy at best, but the personal attack may qualify, as well as the, albeit calmer, threats.


• 7. No Obscenity - You might not qualify her attack at the end as obscenity, but consider that it touches on sensitive topics and wasn't conducive to her main post at all.


• 8. No Flaming/Arguing - This rule explicitly targets personal attacks. This one, as it is written, overtly says that posts with this content will be removed outright.


• 12. Avoid sensitive material - This ties back into rule 7.


• 14. Controversial posts - Self explanatory


• 3. We have the final say - I list this one last because it supersedes all other rules. And if one were to argue that we're abusing this rule to censor things we don't like, remember that most organizations have this rule in place as well - it's not an uncommon "rule". Heck, most every restaurant I walk into has a sign that says "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone."

As I said, these are just broken rules that I can see.

It was calm compared to what the Internet is normally like.

Trege, this isn't the rest of the internet. This is a forum with strict rules about keeping things family-friendly.

not enough requiring censorship

Rules 8 and 3.

I want to see proof that the team is actually happy with their leaders.

I think the proof I gave that none of us are being stopped from speaking out what we feel about all this is proof enough that no one else is unhappy enough to speak out. It's not like they'd need to make an inflammatory post stating that they're leaving, which would be censored like Dandy's was. They could simply state that they're leaving because of all the drama. I haven't seen any of that aside from the first four people, who were also close-knit friends and thus had personal ties to what happened. Also, my defense of LoE should imply that I have no residual issues with what's happened. We've had four more members since then post on this thread that they're completely content. If that doesn't count, then I don't know what you're looking for.

Have they ever felt a choice made by a team leader was not the best for LoE? Something like that.

I know I've already said multiple times that I don't appreciate Anya's immature prose or hijinks and that I've been on her case about it... I can't think of anything off the top of my head that Bloomberg did that I don't agree with, and I've already stated that I find it preposterous to try to accuse Perry of doing anything wrong at all.

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The Retirement Home / Re: Regarding this tension in the air...

2013 May 30, 10:45:03

So basically Swebow "Sabotages" something he worked on for years for revenge? I'm not buying it. With all due respect I don't believe it. (I would like to point out the you're , and your in this are to the team , and not only you Tekner.)

It would harm him more than anyone else. He was here since EO times , and I know the same can be said to other team members , but still the idea that he would try to sabotage something he took part in because of how immature his team was acting makes no sense whatsoever.

As I said a couple times, I was one of the last people to lose faith in him. Among my reasons were that, as you said, it makes no sense for him to sabotage something he worked on for years. That is exactly why I explicitly made it clear that that's what he did. Here is a quote from his May 26th update:

So, apparently I got blamed now for releasing sensitive information? No, I release one screenshot, to Dandy, where her post got switched because of my agreement to some of her points!
...
After when I heard I was getting kicked, I started to post more pics for Skype chats. Not really sensitive information at all!

So... I didn't want to release this, but hell. If they wanted sensitive information release; here you go

Canterlot, that has been made so far... and it's been a year... (notice the new shader and pony models? That is kind of cool isn't it? But Ponyville haven't really been updated at all. Everfree haven't been touched)

He outright said that he's releasing sensitive information simply because he doesn't agree with that what he leaked before was sensitive information. He then begins to detail new features that we were saving for the cons. I don't know what your definition of sabotage is, but that clearly fits mine, among his other misdeeds that he admits to doing. Now, I don't believe he's made it his mission to shut down LoE. That's not at all what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that of the poor decisions he's made regarding sensitive information, almost all of them can be classified as sabotage, and he knows this. I'm speaking more of what that says about his character, than his intent.

Thing is, many of you have an emotional attachment to SweBow that will take time to ease out of. I understand that and am only trying to give you both sides of the argument so that you may form your own opinion of what happened, but regardless of what opinion that turns out to be, we're moving forward with the game.

Also still when you tried to explain why no official statement was said you completely stray away from the idea , and constantly try to make Swebow look like the bad guy. So still I ask the same question Tiger asks. Why has there not been an official statement?

The reason it feels like I keep trying to make SweBow "the bad guy" is because everything that's happened thus far has its roots in him. If he hadn't gossiped about something that was brought up in a serious manner and was dismissed as a concern almost as soon as it was brought up, Dandy wouldn't have quit the team. If he didn't leak the private conversations and material, he wouldn't have gotten in trouble and would still be on the team. It all goes back to him because he abused his admin privileges and our trust in him. Does that make him a "bad guy"? I won't say. That's up to you to decide.

As to why there's no official statement yet... I clearly explained why a couple of times, from a couple of different angles. If you didn't see my explanations, then you should reread my post. The jyst of it was because SweBow, being the old PR lead, won't give us some of our necessary PR tools back and that there are consequences to making a public statement about all of this.

Also you keep saying that just because we don't see something happening doesn't mean something isn't happening. Well then can I please see an example of what is happening? Then later you say "We aren't hiding anything" , and "We are entitled to our own privacy." In the same sentence. I don't really have to point out what's wrong.

The only examples I could give are our skype discussions about PR, future events, if/how we're going to make a public announcement, etc. I need consent from everyone in those conversations before I can show them to you. I suppose the only other proof I can show, however small, is the screenshot I posted above where Anya is giving Hapony and I her support in posting what we feel we need to and that Hapony is among the many team members who got over all this drama already.

Actually, there isn't anything wrong with that statement. "We aren't hiding anything" was a response to the accusation that we're picking sides and purposely hiding evidence of more wrongdoings on our part solely to cover it up. "We are entitled to our own privacy." has to do with the fact that all of the gossip going around about who said what and how we were affected by it has nothing to do with you guys and shouldn't be made public. They were put together like that to mean this, put more succinctly: "Our personal conversations were inappropriately made public. You guys didn't need to know about them in the first place because they aren't any of your concern, and no we're not just saying that because we have anything to cover up." Obviously there has to be a sense of trust in the first place in order for you to believe any of that. This is one of the areas I'm not going to go out of my way to prove because common sense dictates that this is the case anyway, and it doesn't matter if you trust me about that. You can choose to believe us or not. It doesn't change that we're still working on LoE without SweBow and those who chose to leave us. That was their decision and we're not letting it affect us beyond that.

Also we aren't asking any personal questions about anyone's life. We were asking about this game that is announced publicly , and why there hasn't been a single word on recent info that has been shown. A normal company would have said something about what their making , and all of that , but here we have complete silence , and the use of "Privacy for a public matter." as an excuse.

I believe that is actually a difference in what answers you're seeking versus what other people want to hear. I've been answering more questions than I care to count and my responses were constructed the way they were as a result of those many questions. Now, if you want to know why we haven't said anything about the game since Canterlot Gardens and our most recent events, SweBow actually already answers that quite clearly in his document, if you've read it. If not, it goes something like this: SweBow had a disagreement with the way the other team leads wanted to conduct PR and he went silent in protest. This went on for some time, and despite the other team leads constantly trying to get him to talk to them about some course of action, he remained silent and many things went undone. This included LoE participating in Galacon, which SweBow said before his silence that he was taking care of, and yet never did. Once the other team leads finally gave up trying to rely on SweBow to get PR done, they took matters into their own hands because things needed to get done. Unfortunately, by this time (a few weeks ago), we were already planning content to show off at Fiesta Equestria and Everfree Northwest and now we can't really show anything without ruining the surprise. Remember, we withheld showing content several months before Canterlot Gardens as well. This should be no surprise to you.

So first off you're saying you don't have to fix it because humans must obtain flaws , but then you say you're trying to fix it? I don't get it at all. Basically everything said so far was that you were sorry you allowed your flaws to be seen , and you never actually cared for them , and are in fact continuing them , but when you see that the others hate that idea 5 seconds later , and you all have been working very hard to improve?

I don't understand what you mean. What I said is that, to me, it appears some of you formulate your arguments acting as if we're perfect robots. What I'm trying to convey is that we're humans and we screw up sometimes. What I'm not saying is that because we're prone to screw up, we can justify all of our bad behavior and move on as if it never happened. It ties back into the fact that all of the stuff SweBow keeps leaking are personal conversations that were obviously hand-picked to show off our flaws. With all that in mind, it means that these issues are things we've been dealing with all along. SweBow bringing them to light hasn't changed how we're dealing with them much. All it did was make you guys more aware of them. We're human, we make mistakes, we got over them, you should too.

We don't think the way you acted was the abuse. The way you did things such as get rid of Swebow , and constantly try to silence whatever doesn't agree with you was the abuse.

Again, your views on this differ from most of the comments and questions I've received over the course of this whole escapade. However, to address your points, I fail to understand how it was abuse to get rid of SweBow and move inappropriate material from the public forums to team-only sections for review. Are you saying that because the posts contain juicy gossip that you want to know about, it's exempt from the forum rules that are in place that apply to everyone? I find that a ridiculous sentiment, personally. Not to put words in your mouth, but that's how that argument comes off since the only posts we've "censored" were moved (not deleted) because they broke forum rules. I've posted numerous things and told numerous people in skype things that reveal what was told to me by other team leads and other content you may otherwise classify as what we'd want to censor. I've yet to be told to stop making response posts or to stop talking to people about what I know and how I feel. Regarding kicking SweBow, all of the team leads were unanimous in their decision. If I recall correctly, they held that meeting per the team guidelines that SweBow helped draw up, to kick a rogue team member to prevent further issues.

We aren't talking about forum posts. We're talking about the game The whole argument against them being fame-seekers is that they don't try to rip off anyone elses posts. Considering I find that highly impossible. If someone wanted to be famous he wouldn't (Even though I have no idea how he/she would) try to steal someones post on the forums. It's just forums that aren't even that popular. What they are doing has to do with the game , and NOT the forums.

As you accuse me of not having proof, I'd like to ask you to provide the same. Also, I provided ample defense that didn't have to do with the forums.

So the recent Swebow leaving has nothing to do with the team failing? Yeah because if it was him that chose to leave , and as a normal desire to stop working he would definitely try to ruin something he helped create.

How is the team failing? We're doing fine over here. Again, I don't know why he would purposely sabotage something he helped foster. I expressed my confusion in my original post. That doesn't deny or refute the facts and evidence at-hand, however.

Okay here is something that isn't a response to your post: What about the public relations? What's going to happen to it. If the team isn't hiding anything , or falling apart then a simple explanation will show us everything is fine , and dandy

I don't know exactly what's going to happen with PR. For now other team leads are handling it and I'm sure we'll appoint/hire a new team lead soon. What kind of explanation are you looking for?

Also doesn't explain the fact why Dandy was banned for expressing her opinion and making suggestions. It also makes me wonder when there was suspicion that Swebow was giving her special treatment nopony bothered to even tell her much less bring her into the discussion.

Dandy was banned because her posts were being reposted by anonymous user(s). Before we had time to investigate who it was reposting, she was banned in the event that it was her who was reposting. She should be unbanned at this point, but I'll double check just in case. I already told them to rectify her ban a couple days ago. Regarding the "special treatment", it was that Dandy Lion and SweBow are good friends and discuss their ideas with one another frequently. Because of that, Dandy's ideas tended to go through SweBow for feedback before she told anybody about them. As a result, SweBow often, but not always, agreed with her. To onlookers, this looked a little suspicious because they seemed to always agree with everything. This "suspicion" was brought to SweBow's attention and SweBow presented his side and cases where he didn't agree, and the topic was promptly dropped. Dandy Lion wasn't part of the discussion because it didn't have to do with her. It had to do with that SweBow constantly advocated for Dandy Lion's ideas, not that there's anything wrong with that in general, and people just wanted to ask him why. Dandy took great offense to that she couldn't provide her own side to it, despite the fact that the topic was dropped and never brought back up again. This one I'm still on the wall about and it definitely could have been handled differently. I do, personally, believe that Dandy overreacted, though, It's not really my place to judge her, I suppose.

I'd also like to point out how many team members are straying away from this topic. We are constantly told they aren't straying away from anything , but the second people start talking about this they keep posting unrelated pictures , and videos thinking that would change the topic. So why not just stop running away , and come say something? I promise we won't bite.

I fail to understand how "many team members" are straying away from the topic. If you're referring to Hapony and aussie sharing their input about their relationship with their team leader (which is relevant because of the accusations against us), then I hardly understand how that qualifies as us constantly trying to deviate from the topic at-hand. I know I'm not running away from it. If you want me to provide proof for the things I assert, then I should be able to expect the same from you.

[Spoiler: My apologies to AlDeezy •]

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The Retirement Home / Re: Regarding this tension in the air...

2013 May 30, 07:12:28

Spoiler: My apologies to AlDeezy • show

[quote author=AlDeezy link=topic=7297.msg610828#msg610828 date=1369882970]
[quote author=Tekner link=topic=7297.msg609056#msg609056 date=1369714032]
I would like to publicly make myself heard that two team leads called me a potato and a doody head, respectively. My feelings were so hurt that I forgot how to cry
[/quote]

I... Resent that statement (And the many others like this lurking around the forums done by team members). Way to continuously attack your community and everyone hurt by the  recent events. Really professional. [/sarcasm] This is the comment that made me want to boycott this game entirely, and I'm sure others can empathize.
[/quote]I sincerely apologize that my comment was taken that way. The reason I made that comment is because, while there certainly were very serious things going on, how apparently pervasive they were to the project itself (and the rest of the team) seems to be over-exaggerated in most cases and is actually very negligible in reality. My intent was to lighten the air surrounding the apparent treatment of "regular" team members by the team leads. I have never experienced (directed towards me or anyone else on the team) any kind of abuse or insult that wasn't a friendly prod or that couldn't be talked through by anyone, not just leads. Obviously my intent was not clear and I'm very sorry for the miscommunication.

@Everyone Else: Please, if anything else I've said offended any of you, call me on it, as AlDeezy did. I have no shame in and will accept responsibility for my behavior.

Spoiler: Why hasn't there been an official statement? • show

[quote author=Tiger link=topic=7297.msg611083#msg611083 date=1369901420]

Spoiler: show

It might be Anyasmash and the others trying to deny ever behaving like that. Trying to subtly say that SweBow is lying.
Well, that's not working. We all know the truth and their titles are tarnished now, like Deez said. So they decided to make the Awards thing to distract everyone from the issue, as Sea Foam has stated. But we have seen right through it, and now they don't know what else to do.

[/quote]First off, no one is denying that anything happened. If any of us thought for one second that we could wish it all away and everyone would forget, I'd be seriously worried about that person's sense of reality and morality. None of us are that ignorant or stupid, that much I give you my word. I hate the social stigma that if you can't see anything being done, nothing actually is. Just because you don't see anything, that doesn't mean we've forgotten or are trying to ignore what happened.

I, personally, want more than anything to let the truth be known. And I mean the whole truth and nothing but the truth, not one-sided propaganda that's been heavily filtered and commented to make my side seem appealing. By the way, SweBow did lie, exaggerate, and take things way out of context to make his "arguments" sound more valid. For example, no one suggested any kind of "sleeping" between members to have happened. To this day, no one is sure where he got that from. Maybe it was a metaphor he used and someone took it too seriously. No one has a clue and we won't begin to unfairly put words in his mouth.

Another thing most of you don't realize is that as PR lead, he had access to many of our PR tools, such as Livestream. SweBow intentionally locked down at least one of our Livestream accounts and used it to leak game content. He purposely recorded video footage on May 16th (two weeks ago, long before we knew he'd quit on us or any of this other drama), and made it public ten days later after all the drama unfolded. He premeditated a sabotage attempt against LoE, the very project he'd been fostering for more than two years now. And, to top it all off, he bragged about it in a snide comment that this was to spite us. If you don't believe me, those of you with a link to his document can scroll to the bottom of it and check for yourselves.

Now, I'm sure I sound like, to some of you, someone with a political agenda and I'm trying to gain favor so that "my side wins." I'll admit that I am obviously biased towards keeping LoE alive, and SweBow appears to be in opposition to that sentiment (despite his claims that he isn't.) I refuse to let that bias keep me from analyzing the facts to figure out what truly happened, however, as I've laid out here. To follow up, SweBow locking down our Livestream accounts plays a part in why we're so slow to make any kind of public announcement or event in general.

Keep in mind that I am a generally trusting and forgiving person. Many members of the forum know this about me, and I am very fortunate to be able to call them friends. That being said, I was one of the last people to lose faith in SweBow. I try to understand peoples' perspectives before I assign any kind of blame or judgement. I understood that he was upset, especially about the inexcusably immature behavior of some team leads. It wasn't until I learned that he premeditated these sabotage videos that I realized I couldn't trust him any more. Remember that I was once just a "regular" member of these forums like any of you. I know what it was like to see all the amazing things SweBow had said and done. He truly was "The man. The voice. The legend." in our eyes. There comes a time when you need to come to your senses and realize that no one is perfect, and you have to let some people go for your own good... It was hard, but I had cross that road too. I hope you guys can find it in yourselves to at least consider what I just said.

As per my nature to try to resolve things as peacefully and mutually as possible, I messaged SweBow the day after he released his videos to ask him to please remove them for everyone's sake. His response was rather unsettling.

Spoiler: What I said and SweBow's response. NOTE: THERE IS CUSSING IN THE FOLLOWING IMAGE • show

Do note that because I am a generally trusting person, I can get very vindictive when I am backstabbed. I do my best to redirect those feelings into more cohesive discussion than actually act out any sort of revenge, however. I ended up venting to some friends about how I felt, and sent SweBow that message, which is why I cussed a bit. I was obviously very hurt.

Spoiler: OWN UP. • show

[quote author=Tiger link=topic=7297.msg611083#msg611083 date=1369901420]

Spoiler: show

Wear your mistakes with pride.

We all know your secrets now, the abuses, the offensive jokes. Don't try to hide them anymore, we can see right through you.
Stop trying to be a RainDrop. If you kicked him out because he wanted fame above all else, you might as well kick yourselves out. Stop being the abusers that you are and become the nice people we had pictured you all to be.
Fix the situation. Fix the game. Fix YOURSELVES!
Make the people in the team your friends, not your nerds to bully! Live and work in peace and harmony! Take a new path of FRIENDSHIP, not HATRED! It's not called "My Little Pony - Hatred is Magic"!

Otherwise, the game and the community shall crumble apart.

Another failed game project.

[/quote]I don't have any clue where any of that came from
Let's clear up a few points, shall we?
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[li]"Don't try to hide them [secrets] anymore, we can see right through you."
We have absolutely nothing to hide from you guys. If you think not detailing every issue that comes up in our personal lives is hiding things from you guys, then I'm sorry, but you need a reality-check. We are human beings just like all of you. We're entitled to our privacy. To follow up that point, if you think that the majority of the complaints in the docs you read aren't personal issues, and that they affect the entire team, again, you may need a reality-check. I apologize for being blunt, but that is the truth of it all: You all don't need to know about every single little problem that comes up in our chats. Step back from all the drama and ask yourselves if you really need to know these things or if your reactions are mostly from shock and possibly misplaced distrust in us (I'm not saying that the distrust isn't justified or understandable.)[/li]
[li]Regardless of if we need to know that these things happened, they still happened and you can't deny that!
No one is trying to act like it never happened. No one is trying to say that it's no big deal and we can all ignore it. All I'm trying to point out is that we are a group of people joined together to make a game. Just because we're in a group, doesn't mean that we'll always agree. It doesn't mean that everyone will stay on the team until it's finished. And it definitely doesn't mean that we're all going to be perfect people who make no wrong-doings against others. What it means is that we should do our best to be a team in spite of those facts! We should be able to move on and through each others' issues. What happens when we can't do that, is exactly what you all saw come out in the form of unsubstantiated, personal vindications against certain people. Obviously, that means some more fine-tuning needs to be done within the team. We're not ignoring that fact and we're actively exploring ideas to attempt to fix that in the future, such as a possible HR (Human Resources) department that team members can talk to if they don't trust other members or team leaders.[/li]
[li]Stop being abusers.
I don't know of any abuse that's gone on in the team. I've been here a year and, I think, that's plenty of time to notice something if it's happened. To be clear, I don't consider wrongly-interpretted jokes to be abuse if they were swiftly repented for. SweBow's documents did show some jokes that were taken the wrong way, and I in no way condone the behavior at all, but everyone involved (and I thank SweBow for censoring people's names) has no hard feelings about it at all. I know this because I personally asked SweBow for the names of the people involved and asked those people directly what their residual feelings are about it all. They said, and I'm paraphrasing of course, that they were freaked out, didn't appreciate or understand the joke, but were apologized to and have since even forgotten about it because of how insignificant it is now. That's not to say that there couldn't possbly have been cases of "abuse" that have gone under the radar, and that's something we realize that we must address. As I said above, we are currently discussing ways to fix that.[/li]
[li]Stop being fame-seekers.
SweBow made an argument that Anya, Bloomberg, and Perry are fame-seekers who belittle their members and take all the credit. This is the one argument out of everything he said that I don't understand at all. It makes absolutely no sense, and it shouldn't. He didn't even provide "proof" for this one, yet he did for pretty much everything else he said. All he did was make unsubstantiated assertions.
Here are a number of reasons why all of his accusations of them being fame-seekers are ridiculous:
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[li]The only posts that Perry ever makes on the forums are about final decisions about forum conduct or, more often than not, sticky posts about the forum rules. If Perry wanted fame, wouldn't he post more? Wouldn't he somehow try to steal McSleuthburger's responses and make them his own (because he honestly is the most active moderator thus far.) I see no evidence of any of that and I am completely dumbfounded how anyone could assert that Perry strives for the limelight. To follow that up, I'm sure many of you remember Canterlot Gardens 2012. It was an absolutely amazing convention that many of you guys attended, as well as myself. What many of you may not know is that Perry was the co-founder/owner of Canterlot Gardens. He funded some of it with his own money, handled planning, financials, security, among other things. While I was at the con, all I saw him doing was running around (literally) with a walkie-talkie in hand, ensuring that everything went smoothly. The only time he got any kind of limelight was when he acted as a temporary bodyguard for some celebrities when things got out of control, or when he introduced some panelists. The very fact that this is news to many of you is proof enough that he isn't a fame-seeker. He's an extremely hard-working man, whom SweBow should feel ashamed for attempting to defame in such a childish, pedantic manner.[/li]
[li]The same defense for Anya and Bloomberg applies, as well. I haven't seen them once attempt to steal their team's work. We have Trello boards and everyone's work is in their name. No one tries to take credit for anyone else's work. In addition, as SweBow said, they (Anya and Bloomberg) pitched the idea for Ellowee, our new mascot. Do you guys know why they wanted to introduce a mascot? I guarantee that the majority of you don't. It was because of the very accusation that some members were trying to take the spotlight. We wanted to prevent that from ever happening. Ellowee is a tool for our PR department to use so that no single member can take the spotlight, as SweBow did (and I probably do with these really long, arduous response posts .) If Anya and Bloomberg wanted spotlight, they wouldn't actively take steps to ensure that no one can attain spotlight, themselves included.[/li]
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[li]Be friends with everyone on your team and stop censoring them.
Again, as far as I can tell, everyone gets along fine for the most part; as much as any team should, at least. I haven't once been censored or told not to post or say anything regarding what's been going on. Here's a screenshot of skype just after I said that I'm responding to this thread:

As you can see, even Anya has no issue with what I, or anyone else, is posting. She knows full well that I'm not withholding non-personal information, and if she didn't somehow, she will after she reads this post. Obviously, I'm not worried in the slightest because I trust her and my team.[/li]
[li]Why aren't you guys saying anything or making an official statement?
As far as I go, I've been actively discussing and disclosing as much as I know to people on Skype, and I'm sure that those people whom I've talked with would tell you that I've been doing my best to keep them informed. Within the team, I've pushed numerous times for an official announcement in response to what happened. The biggest issue with that is that it really all just boils down to personal issues people had with the team and making a public announcement would just make the situation worse by freaking out more people than is necessary.

Already, a bunch of you have shared how much shock you went through to find all this stuff going around when you came back from some form of a break or vacation. Heck, that's the premise of this entire thread! We'd like to not put everyone else through that if we can help it. The fact is that, frankly, we're stuck between a rock and a hard place, as the saying goes. Many of you may know that metaphor from The Simpsons Movie. For those of you who did see it, remember that scene where Homer is stuck on the wrecking ball and is being swung between a giant rock and a hotel with the sign "A Hard Place"? That's what I'm talking about, and that's exactly how a lot of us feel. We either say nothing and appear as though we're hiding/ignoring what happened, or we respond and freak everyone out for no good reason.
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[li]Conclusion
The team isn't falling apart, no one's been fighting about what happened, no one's been censored, the team leads have been as complient as they possibly can with any and all team members who had concerns, and we've all since moved on. Truth is, most every time I mention making any kind of announcement about this now, I just get reminded that it is, truthfully, old news. To many of you, it isn't. That much is very clear to me. I guess right now, the team is just trying to reconcile how to handle that you guys aren't over what isn't a big deal to the rest of us. It's not an easy situation for any of us to be in.[/li]
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May I make a note that your team leader, Savana, isn't a team leader in question in this whole issue?

May I ask what exactly that has to do with anything? Most of the points raised by people are that the whole team is being accused of some form of conspiracy or hiding what happened. All team leads share responsibility in the actions of the team and each other. Savana would not refute that.

[staff underlings]

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The Retirement Home / Re: Regarding this tension in the air...

2013 May 28, 00:07:12

LoE staff underlings, you don't like how you're being treated? Make your voice heard. Part of the reason why this whole shpeel turned out the way it did is because concerns were not heard. MAKE them heard. Find an alternative way to get them heard; this is the internet after all! We can not blame anyone but everyone for what happened and why it happened. This stretches to every. one. Kudos to all of you who quit, but shame on all who didn't speak up about it.

I would like to publicly make myself heard that two team leads called me a potato and a doody head, respectively. My feelings were so hurt that I forgot how to cry

153

Off-Topic Archive / Re: The End or The Beginning

2013 May 27, 22:45:10

OH NO I WAS CALLED A BAD NAME AND THE TEAMS ARE FIGHTING AND EVERYTHING IS GOING TO DUST NOW THAT THE ENTIRE TEAM CAN'T SEEM TO WORK TOGETHER ANYMORE BECAUSE SOMEONE WAS INSULTED! WHATEVER WILL WE DO!

[Spoiler: Regarding our new mascot. •]

154

The Retirement Home / Re: Goodbye everyone!

2013 May 27, 16:08:58

There's no "mismanagement" going on. Much of what SweBow posted is, unfortunately, mostly just stuff taken out of context, leaked, and stretched to better suit his "arguments". I have nothing against SweBow at all, but facts are facts, and his document didn't lay them out very well.

He didn't care to mention several things in his document that are crucial to understanding the whole situation. These are facts such as that the other team leads constantly tried to get his thoughts on PR events and ideas, while he was just keeping silent, as he so fervently explained in his document. This forced other team leads to do his job in the mean time since PR needed to get done and he clearly wasn't doing it. He (as far as I can tell) tries to make it sound like everyone pushed him out of the way and did his job for him. This is just one example of omitted context.

Yes, you can nitpick other things in the document, some of which do detail honestly unbecoming behavior of team members/leaders, but I think anyone with a grip on reality realizes that we're human too and that we're also prone to do stupid things. No real harm was done in the end and those involved had a bad guilt-trip afterwards (after it happened, not after SweBow leaked it.)

For those of you who haven't read his document, I apologize if this post is a "tease". Unless you want to get swept up in the frustrating gossip that's being thrown at us, I'd suggest you do your best to move on. I realize how much this is asking of you. I'm really sorry

Spoiler: Regarding our new mascot. • show

Some of you may have noticed that our new mascot was introduced at almost the same of SweBow's leaving us and thought that that can't be a coincidence. Well... It actually is...
It was poor timing on all our parts and it is unfortunate. The fact is that the mascot had been under discussion for weeks prior to its introduction (SweBow actually screenshot the mascot idea pitch in his document, though they don't have actual dates on them.) The mascot was introduced on Thursday of last week (5/23) and SweBow left the next day. Perhaps the mascot was the last straw that made SweBow leave. I don't know and I won't dare speculate or put words in his mouth.

Regardless of all that's happened, I wish SweBow success in whatever future projects he may decide to lend his big brain of wonderful ideas and wisdom to *insert sad Luna emotipony here*

EDIT: If I had to sum up everything that has happened, not just regarding SweBow, I'd like to remind everyone that even though we may look professional from the outside, we aren't nearly so. We're just a bunch of kids (average age is about 22) drawing some art, making some models, and writing some stories. Our conversations are the same as the ones you guys have with your friends. We're all friends with each other and joke around just like friends do. Yeah, sometimes we'll do it behind people's backs. Sometimes we'll do it in their faces and feel stupid afterwards. Point is that while we do need to hold a higher standard of conduct regarding the project, we shouldn't have to for our social lives, and that's nearly all that's been brought to light. What you guys have seen thus far is a combination of personal issues being brought to light, and conflicts that have little to do with the project being attached to it as if they're the same thing.
TL;DR: Situations like Anya calling Bloomberg a "doody head" doesn't cease all progress on the game, and it shouldn't worry you guys in the slightest 

155

The Retirement Home / Re: Goodbye everyone!

2013 May 27, 03:21:16

So what now? I just don't see this project being done...

Oh... Don't be like that
While it is sad to see SweBow go after all he's done for us, we can't assume the worst now that he's gone. Change can be scary at first, but it grows on you, if you let it. Also, it's not like he's banned. He can still chat with us if he wants to.

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The Retirement Home / Re: Can someone explain?

2013 May 27, 03:15:32

If you recall, SweBow almost left us a few months ago. He had some personal things going on and wanted to move on. Ever since the majority of us asked (and peer pressured) him to stay, he's been largely inactive (as we can expect from someone who hadn't planned to be here in the first place.) In addition, he played a role in the gossip that's been going around LoE. Kit made an official post regarding this here. Give it a read

If you have any further questions, feel free to PM me or another staff member.

157

News Archive / Re: Legends of Equestria Attending Everfree Northwest and Fiesta Equestria!

2013 May 26, 21:52:10

To find Tekner, you need simply look for a man wearing a flat cap.  You can't miss him.   

You don't know that. Besides, nearly everyone else on the team had a hat of their own anyway.

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News Archive / Re: Legends of Equestria Attending Everfree Northwest and Fiesta Equestria!

2013 May 26, 17:24:57

It's about a few days to drive all the way down to Houston. If I wasn't saving up for games I'd jump at the chance. I want to see how badly I could troll Tekner.

If you can find me first!

159

News Archive / Re: Legends of Equestria Attending Everfree Northwest and Fiesta Equestria!

2013 May 25, 02:50:57

Ugh I can't go to either of them    I live like on the other side of the world. I thought that exactly THIS game's pre alpha is coming back, but no. Nothing      I don't get what's wrong with the pre-alpha? They could work on the game, while people play in the pre-alpha? Then they wouldn't be asking "WHEN IS IT FINISHED WHEN WHEN WHEN?!"

You're forgetting that it costs money and takes attention away from developing it. The game is too unstable for public, extended play right now, unfortunately. We want nothing more than for you guys to be able to play it, otherwise we wouldn't be working on it.

[Spoiler:]

160

News Archive / Re: Public Apology

2013 May 22, 02:48:20

Spoiler: show

Surely you've been forgiven, Anya. And if this is only a small bit of drama created by [whoever], then we shouldn't worry about it. I'm sure not too many people have seen it, anyway. So let's just move on and leave this topic alone.

And what she said does not matter, and if you think it does, then this is just your curiosity overcoming you. This is just my opinion, of course. Think whatever ya want.

And don't fight with me when I say this! Can't tell you how many times I've expressed my opinion and I had to fight with someone afterward. But like I've said, I forgive you Anya, even though it's barely your fault.

It does matter, because it is inappropriate, immature, unprofessional and abhorrent to take a thought-out, serious piece of advice and entirely censor it and turn it into a piece which insinuates a poor reputation upon the original writer of the post.  If you have not seen the post yourself, or understood the contents of the post, how do you know what does or does not matter?

And as Trege has said, the least that the team can do is release the edited post itself.  Otherwise it will spread like a wildfire regardless of what the team does, and the team of Legends of Equestria will look all the worse and have even blacker stain upon its reputation than it already does.  Posting the original post, with the appropriate parts censored, would allow the internet to take a look for themselves and draw their own conclusions rather than create an atmosphere of suspicion which only encourages a vicious cycle.

Obviously, you're miffed about this situation (I still don't understand why), but, regardless, please keep comments like this out of this thread. This thread is for questions about what happened, not unsubstantiated assertions about what you think will happen if we don't engage some kind of discourse regarding the original post.