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Poll
Question: Who would you perfer as a national leader
Option 1: Celestia votes: 11
Option 2: Luna votes: 15
Option 3: Cadence + Shinging armor votes: 3
Option 4: Twilght, Applejack,Fluttershy,Pinkie Pie,Rainbow dash,and Rarity votes: 8
Option 5: Derpy votes: 6
Title: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Weatherboy1 on 2012 Aug 06, 17:12:05
Personally I would want Derpy  :P
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Lusterless Nova on 2012 Aug 06, 17:38:54
Equestria is somehow making it with Celestia but in case she needs a replacement:
I would like to see Luna as the main ruler but she lacks experience. She will probably learn it though.
The main six also don't know how to rule a country. I doubt even one of them has the potential for this task.
I'm not sure about Shining Armor and Cadance but if i had to choose i would probably have to decide between them and Luna.
And derpy... Cute but no.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Thunder Jet on 2012 Aug 06, 17:45:53
Derpy: MUFFENS DAY EVERYS 34512 DAYS OF THE WEEKS. 12 DAYS ARE CUBCAKES.

I'll have to go with Luna.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Book Smarts on 2012 Aug 06, 20:29:37
For a well organized, progressive government? Twilight Sparkle  ^-^
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 06, 23:02:14
Celestia and Luna, with Cadence and Shining as a back-up. The mane six, are, for the most part, normal ponies, too. Derpy, OH HAY NO!
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 06, 23:51:20
Celestia, or Cadance+Shining Armor
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Zygrograxgra on 2012 Aug 07, 00:05:48
None of them.
Celestia has been to easily beaten, and is too gentle. When she does anger, it's always rather pathetic.
Luna is too out of touch with the world right now, too confusable.
Cadence and Shining Armor? AHA, I wouldn't bend my knee to them unless an axe was to my neck.
The Mane Six? Pinkie's too random and emotional, RD's too quick, Twilight does NOT Handle stress well, Fluttershy is too soft, Rarity is too focused on tiny little details, Applejack is too stubborn.
Derpy? She's a health hazard.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Book Smarts on 2012 Aug 07, 00:11:16
Quote from: Zygrograxgra on 2012 Aug 07, 00:05:48
None of them.
Celestia has been to easily beaten, and is too gentle. When she does anger, it's always rather pathetic.
Luna is too out of touch with the world right now, too confusable.
Cadence and Shining Armor? AHA, I wouldn't bend my knee to them unless an axe was to my neck.
The Mane Six? Pinkie's too random and emotional, RD's too quick, Twilight does NOT Handle stress well, Fluttershy is too soft, Rarity is too focused on tiny little details, Applejack is too stubborn.
Derpy? She's a health hazard.

Your right, Equestria should be a anarcho-syndicalist commune  lol
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 07, 00:12:12
Celestia was beaten because of chrysalis's power boost.
Equestria is in a great shape , and its better than the world now with celestia as the ruler.
These other ponies barely even match celestia she is the best ruler ever.
You all deny it for who knows what reason , but its true.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 07, 00:24:13
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 07, 00:12:12
Celestia was beaten because of chrysalis's power boost.
Equestria is in a great shape , and its better than the world now with celestia as the ruler.
These other ponies barely even match celestia she is the best ruler ever.
You all deny it for who knows what reason , but its true.


It's true.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 07, 00:41:13
celestia is best then?
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Lord of Madness on 2012 Aug 07, 04:41:55
I wish I could vote for burrito...  ovO
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 07, 11:12:56
Who would vote for Derpy other than to troll? She's adorable, but no.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Weatherboy1 on 2012 Aug 07, 14:19:42
Quote from: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 07, 11:12:56
Who would vote for Derpy other than to troll? She's adorable, but no.

Eh I always thought that is a required option in polls. Its just the "I don't care" Option pretty much. It was a joke  X3
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: SOWTOJ on 2012 Aug 07, 20:48:10
Luna. I don't much care for Celestia's style of rule, I think Luna would have a much better grip on everything. However, she's not as powerful as Celestia, so that's kind of a set-back, but overall I just prefer her personality far more. (Yes, I'm aware she never showed much of one during her only two episode appearances, but she's still more likeable than her sister).
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 07, 20:50:48
basing a nation's rule on an individual's personality... sounds like a very bad idea.  oh wait, that's what we're doing in the USA...
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Post by: Zygrograxgra on 2012 Aug 07, 20:52:49
Quote from: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 07, 20:50:48
basing a nation's rule on an individual's personality... sounds like a very bad idea.  oh wait, that's what we're doing in the USA...

I'm basing it on how they would handle issues, which is a personality thing.
It's actually needed. If your head, country's face, w/e they are, cannot handle problems well, then bad stuff will happen.
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Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 07, 20:54:02
ah.  but it seems like the only reason Celestia's not really dealing with Ponyville is because the Mane Six are there, to me at least.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Book Smarts on 2012 Aug 07, 23:42:15
Quote from: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 07, 20:54:02
ah.  but it seems like the only reason Celestia's not really dealing with Ponyville is because the Mane Six are there, to me at least.

Ponyville has a mayor  :s
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Chautauquan on 2012 Aug 07, 23:48:07
For both its weaknesses and strengths I'd say go with the mane six.  Likely due to my political philosophy, which dictates that spreading power out among people lessens the potential for a gross abuse of power, but, in all honesty, it's likely mostly because of my adoration of the era of the founding of the United States.  Colonial governments elsewhere (when there weren't appointed governors) are also great examples, but I just think that while overall, having a council would be less effective (arguing and not compromising, etc) it also means that we avoid abuses of power.  Even though the mane six are generally pretty cohesive, I think it would be more difficult for a council to send me to the moon, which would be convenient at first, but on the other hand, it also would allow for a more difficult time of taking over, because you have to keep track of six heads of state, as opposed to one or two.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 07, 23:49:36
i have a feeling that the mane six would create an unimaginably complex bureaucracy really quickly...
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Post by: Chautauquan on 2012 Aug 07, 23:52:57
Quote from: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 07, 23:49:36
i have a feeling that the mane six would create an unimaginably complex bureaucracy really quickly...


Yup.  Unstable, but it would be hard for them to oppress... Or perhaps defend against invasion.  I'll admit I'm a wacko, but I'm a wacko who sticks to my principles! 
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 07, 23:56:08
and it would take forever to fix anything :\  Although now that I think about it, Celestia takes a long time to do most things...
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Chautauquan on 2012 Aug 07, 23:57:54
You see, it works!  Instead of being able to blame people individually, and cast aspersions on their character, we can instead blame the system!  It's brilliant!... if I do say so myself.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 08, 00:02:15
.........and now you know why I think it's a very bad idea lol
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 08, 00:05:59
Quote from: Chautauquan on 2012 Aug 07, 23:57:54
You see, it works!  Instead of being able to blame people individually, and cast aspersions on their character, we can instead blame the system!  It's brilliant!... if I do say so myself.

exactly my countries logic in their revolution.
"We can't get any money , and that defiantly not because half of us skipped school ((True)) Its definatly because the president stole it from us."
Flawless logic.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: SOWTOJ on 2012 Aug 08, 04:47:50
Quote from: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 07, 20:50:48
basing a nation's rule on an individual's personality... sounds like a very bad idea.  oh wait, that's what we're doing in the USA...

I would love to bash this statement, but we can't argue politics on here. :(

But no, I wouldn't pick Luna strictly for personality, I also stated that I believe she'd have a better grip on things. A lot of problems occur all the time in Equestria. Celestia is slacking.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 08, 12:12:39
So who exactly has been running the country for a thousand years, and keeping the peace pretty well, all things considered?
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Zygrograxgra on 2012 Aug 08, 12:30:57
Quote from: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 08, 12:12:39
So who exactly has been running the country for a thousand years, and keeping the peace pretty well, all things considered?

>keeping peace pretty well
>world destroying threat every half a year
Right.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 08, 12:40:14
I blame it on the Six, ever since they came around there's been no end to troubles!  Oh we've got trouble, trouble with a capital T which rhymes with Sea which starts with S which stands for Six!
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Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 08, 20:30:37
That took a moment. :o
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Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 08, 20:34:48
:P

seems that Luna is winning
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: SOWTOJ on 2012 Aug 08, 20:52:02
Quote from: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 08, 12:12:39
So who exactly has been running the country for a thousand years, and keeping the peace pretty well, all things considered?

We've not gotten a thousand years of history from the show though, so...?
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Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 08, 20:56:01
it was the Sisters who banished Discord, yet Nightmare Moon was imprisoned in the Moon for a thousand years, and Equestria was ruled by the Sisters since the Three Tribes...
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: SOWTOJ on 2012 Aug 09, 08:15:11
Whilst that's an accurate statement, that still does not tell anyone the history of a thousand years. I am talking about all of the events that happened between Nightmare Moon's banishment and present day. With all of the constant problems in Equestria, I can safely assume that there are far more problems that have occurred over those past 1000 years. Now, this might not be Celestia's fault, but I still stand by my guns in believing that Luna would do a better job as the ruler of Equestria.

Of course, everything could have been extremely peaceful for the most part during all of that time, and recent events could be linked to the return of the Elements of Harmony (wild guess, but giving a look from the other side). If that's the case, then Celestia's doing alright. I still like Luna more in the end though.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 09, 13:29:31
there's a reason Luna got banished to the moon, you know... do you really think it would be wise to have a ruler with a history of trying to commit genocide on a global basis?
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Post by: Lord of Madness on 2012 Aug 09, 14:09:50
Quote from: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 09, 13:29:31
there's a reason Luna got banished to the moon, you know... do you really think it would be wise to have a ruler with a history of trying to commit genocide on a global basis?


^ O3O

I would have voted for burrito.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: SOWTOJ on 2012 Aug 10, 01:09:07
Quote from: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 09, 13:29:31
there's a reason Luna got banished to the moon, you know... do you really think it would be wise to have a ruler with a history of trying to commit genocide on a global basis?

Trying to commit genocide? She wanted it to be permanently night. She was also corrupted. I'm willing to bet there's more behind the story than just simple jealousy, but I doubt the show will ever go there, so we'll never know.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Weatherboy1 on 2012 Aug 10, 07:45:33
Quote from: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 09, 13:29:31
there's a reason Luna got banished to the moon, you know... do you really think it would be wise to have a ruler with a history of trying to commit genocide on a global basis?

How was it Genocide?
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Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 10, 13:26:49
according to Lauren Faust, who wrote the episode and backstory for Luna, the reason she was banished the first time was literally because ponies were starving and suffering.  you can't plant anything and have it grow without sunlight, and the sun is what warms the entire planet.  imagine if day never came.  vegetables, grass, trees, animals, everything would die a slow death, and then the world would freeze over.
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Post by: Weatherboy1 on 2012 Aug 10, 14:55:58
Quote from: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 10, 13:26:49
according to Lauren Faust, who wrote the episode and backstory for Luna, the reason she was banished the first time was literally because ponies were starving and suffering.  you can't plant anything and have it grow without sunlight, and the sun is what warms the entire planet.  imagine if day never came.  vegetables, grass, trees, animals, everything would die a slow death, and then the world would freeze over.

Ah .
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Tara on 2012 Aug 11, 00:16:30
Luna, she's desperate to prove herself (at least I would assume) and is experienced as a princess.

If it had to be one of the mane 6, I'd say Twilight Sparkle. She's the most logical and supposedly intelligent pony of the mane six. She's also much more mature and reasonable than Rainbow Dash, Rarity and Pinkie.

Rainbow Dash, despite her element of loyalty, is very much into herself (who wants that in a leader?) and is short sighted. Fluttershy would be too shy to ever make the hard decisions, especially if it meant that someone would have to get the short end of the stick. Rarity, well, there's a reason why the Cakes weren't surprised when she denied their request to babysit their twins for no real reason other than she didn't feel like it (reminds me of myself, lol). Applejack is more of an athlete than a leader, and she is devoted to her farm. Pinkie Pie well, I really don't have to say why for her. xD
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Post by: SOWTOJ on 2012 Aug 11, 02:59:06
Quote from: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 10, 13:26:49
according to Lauren Faust, who wrote the episode and backstory for Luna, the reason she was banished the first time was literally because ponies were starving and suffering.  you can't plant anything and have it grow without sunlight, and the sun is what warms the entire planet.  imagine if day never came.  vegetables, grass, trees, animals, everything would die a slow death, and then the world would freeze over.

+1
Never occurred to me to think about that. But then again, that was Nightmare Moon and not Luna. At this point in our little debate, it appears Celestia is more prevalent, but in my fanboyism for Luna, I now have no choice but to stick to my guns about there being more to her transformation than just simple jealously (similar to Anakin being convinced to side with the Emperor, perhaps) and that despite all that is said and done, I still strongly feel Luna would be a greater leader. Unless of course her transformation was pure jealously. Then she'd be a horrible leader. But she is still uber cute and will forever remain on my top 5.
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Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 11, 16:28:34
well, can't really argue against that xD  but seriously, there's been really so little actual showing of leadership styles (in terms of governance and politics) that most of this is speculation.

BUT, if you're hedging your bets on Luna's little "episode" being something external, then you'd better hope and pray that it doesn't repeat anytime soon, or at all.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: TCDubstep on 2012 Aug 11, 16:37:13
I vote for Lord of Madness  ovO
who is with me?
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 11, 17:02:07
*tumbleweed*
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Post by: AAA13 on 2012 Aug 11, 17:25:34
Just so you all know I voted for Derpy coz... I like Derpy! :P
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 11, 17:33:24
I voted for Celestia. She kept Equestria together for over 1,000 years.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: AAA13 on 2012 Aug 11, 17:36:20
Muffins come above peace.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 11, 17:38:10
have fun with your revolution x3
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 11, 17:39:13
Because soon your community will fall apart, and your leader can't fix anything.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: AAA13 on 2012 Aug 11, 17:40:20
What community?
Theres just me, Derpy, and 100000000000000000000000000000000 muffins! ovO
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 11, 17:43:03
*facehoof*

so, looks like Luna's in the lead, with Celestia in second place?
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Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 11, 17:43:51
^Good.^
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 11, 17:57:46
seems nopony likes Cadance x3
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Post by: AAA13 on 2012 Aug 11, 18:01:00
Quote from: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 11, 17:57:46
seems nopony likes Cadance x3
Thats coz Derpy is better.
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Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 11, 18:12:28
...:c

fanon these days lol
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Book Smarts on 2012 Aug 12, 08:47:49
I feel like Luna's still too young to take over as a leader, she even has trouble keeping up with the modern world ever since she returned from the moon.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 12, 13:34:20
Everypony here is just picking his , or her favourite ponies.

Luna:she doesn't even know much about the modern world.I bet she wouldn't know what appeloosa is since it was made 2 years ago relative to the appleloosa episode meaning it was made 1 year before nightmare moon was cured.

Derpy:Seriously?Why is this a choice?No matter how much you like derpy she wouldn't be a good ruler.This isn't a fav. pony list you know.

Cadance:All she did was babysit Twilight.I don't see why she is royalty.

Shining Armour:would work , but sadly all he knows about running equestria is the militia meaning he will probably start a few wars.

Mayor mare:She fails at taking care of ponyville I doubt she can take care of equestria.

Celestia:Saved all of equestria multiple times , and had ruled it for over 1000 years.Everything is top notch under her rule yet all of you say she is bad because of your "Trollestia" beliefs which are absouloutly false , and I personally think that when someone calls her trollestia its because hes jealous of her perfection.

ANY of the mane 6:They know 0 about ruling a kingdom.Fluttershy would just cater to animals more than ponies , and would be to shy to make orders.Rarity would only make fashion related things , and spend the continents money on gems.Twilight will only care about education all she will do will come from a book about ruling.Rainbowdash would only care for pegasi needs , and herself , and would brag too much about it.Applejack doesn't know a single thing about politics.Pinkie pie is pinkie pie its self explanatory why she can't rule.If you say they all rule together read over my post.They know 0 about ruling a kingdom let alone sharing it.


This isn't a fav. pony list only celestia is fit to rule even if you deny it.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Weatherboy1 on 2012 Aug 12, 13:49:14
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 12, 13:34:20
Everypony here is just picking his , or her favourite ponies.

Luna:she doesn't even know much about the modern world.I bet she wouldn't know what appeloosa is since it was made 2 years ago relative to the appleloosa episode meaning it was made 1 year before nightmare moon was cured.

Derpy:Seriously?Why is this a choice?No matter how much you like derpy she wouldn't be a good ruler.This isn't a fav. pony list you know.

Cadance:All she did was babysit Twilight.I don't see why she is royalty.

Shining Armour:would work , but sadly all he knows about running equestria is the militia meaning he will probably start a few wars.

Mayor mare:She fails at taking care of ponyville I doubt she can take care of equestria.

Celestia:Saved all of equestria multiple times , and had ruled it for over 1000 years.Everything is top notch under her rule yet all of you say she is bad because of your "Trollestia" beliefs which are absouloutly false , and I personally think that when someone calls her trollestia its because hes jealous of her perfection.

ANY of the mane 6:They know 0 about ruling a kingdom.Fluttershy would just cater to animals more than ponies , and would be to shy to make orders.Rarity would only make fashion related things , and spend the continents money on gems.Twilight will only care about education all she will do will come from a book about ruling.Rainbowdash would only care for pegasi needs , and herself , and would brag too much about it.Applejack doesn't know a single thing about politics.Pinkie pie is pinkie pie its self explanatory why she can't rule.If you say they all rule together read over my post.They know 0 about ruling a kingdom let alone sharing it.


This isn't a fav. pony list only celestia is fit to rule even if you deny it.

Its what People Think. I see your logic of Favorite Pony list. But Please don't cause a Whole Argument!
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 12, 14:10:02
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 12, 13:34:20
Everypony here is just picking his , or her favourite ponies.

Luna:she doesn't even know much about the modern world.I bet she wouldn't know what appeloosa is since it was made 2 years ago relative to the appleloosa episode meaning it was made 1 year before nightmare moon was cured.

Derpy:Seriously?Why is this a choice?No matter how much you like derpy she wouldn't be a good ruler.This isn't a fav. pony list you know.

Cadance:All she did was babysit Twilight.I don't see why she is royalty.

Shining Armour:would work , but sadly all he knows about running equestria is the militia meaning he will probably start a few wars.

Mayor mare:She fails at taking care of ponyville I doubt she can take care of equestria.

Celestia:Saved all of equestria multiple times , and had ruled it for over 1000 years.Everything is top notch under her rule yet all of you say she is bad because of your "Trollestia" beliefs which are absouloutly false , and I personally think that when someone calls her trollestia its because hes jealous of her perfection.

ANY of the mane 6:They know 0 about ruling a kingdom.Fluttershy would just cater to animals more than ponies , and would be to shy to make orders.Rarity would only make fashion related things , and spend the continents money on gems.Twilight will only care about education all she will do will come from a book about ruling.Rainbowdash would only care for pegasi needs , and herself , and would brag too much about it.Applejack doesn't know a single thing about politics.Pinkie pie is pinkie pie its self explanatory why she can't rule.If you say they all rule together read over my post.They know 0 about ruling a kingdom let alone sharing it.


This isn't a fav. pony list only celestia is fit to rule even if you deny it.


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Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Lord of Madness on 2012 Aug 12, 16:45:33
is it me or does it seem celestia is catching up :P
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Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 12, 16:56:07
Ponies are coming to their senses.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 12, 17:54:23
the discussion has turned the tide
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Ninkon on 2012 Aug 12, 23:23:10
You want ALL of the mane 6 to rule as a council, with their combined views they should be able to come to the best possible objective decisions as opposed to monarchy in which one pony has ultimate power.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 12, 23:27:10
Quote from: Ninkon on 2012 Aug 12, 23:23:10
You want ALL of the mane 6 to rule as a council, with their combined views they should be able to come to the best possible objective decisions as opposed to monarchy in which one pony has ultimate power.
I laughed so hard at that post.Are you serious?Having 2 supreme same ranked rulers will split the world in half with war because of opinions.6 ponies will cause more chaos.Together , or not they are the second worst people fit for ruling equestria.Right after derpy.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Ninkon on 2012 Aug 12, 23:52:52
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 12, 23:27:10
Quote from: Ninkon on 2012 Aug 12, 23:23:10
You want ALL of the mane 6 to rule as a council, with their combined views they should be able to come to the best possible objective decisions as opposed to monarchy in which one pony has ultimate power.
I laughed so hard at that post.Are you serious?Having 2 supreme same ranked rulers will split the world in half with war because of opinions.6 ponies will cause more chaos.Together , or not they are the second worst people fit for ruling equestria.Right after derpy.

You seriously have so little faith in democracy. A faction isn't going to rise up and over through twilight because she's not letting Pinkie have enough parties! They are all best friends, none of them want something completely contradictory to the others.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 12, 23:55:20
Quote from: Ninkon on 2012 Aug 12, 23:52:52
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 12, 23:27:10
Quote from: Ninkon on 2012 Aug 12, 23:23:10
You want ALL of the mane 6 to rule as a council, with their combined views they should be able to come to the best possible objective decisions as opposed to monarchy in which one pony has ultimate power.
I laughed so hard at that post.Are you serious?Having 2 supreme same ranked rulers will split the world in half with war because of opinions.6 ponies will cause more chaos.Together , or not they are the second worst people fit for ruling equestria.Right after derpy.

You seriously have so little faith in democracy. A faction isn't going to rise up and over through twilight because she's not letting Pinkie have enough parties! They are all best friends, none of them want something completely contradictory to the others.
Wars or not they still know 0 about ruling a kingdom.They would put the world to chaos more than what discord would have ever done.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: TCDubstep on 2012 Aug 12, 23:57:05
Quote from: Lord of Madness on 2012 Aug 12, 16:45:33
is it me or does it seem celestia is catching up :P

is it me or am i the only one that wants to vote for you  ovO
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 12, 23:58:51
Nopony wants me as leader.

Darn right.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Ninkon on 2012 Aug 13, 00:14:29
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 12, 23:55:20
Quote from: Ninkon on 2012 Aug 12, 23:52:52
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 12, 23:27:10
Quote from: Ninkon on 2012 Aug 12, 23:23:10
You want ALL of the mane 6 to rule as a council, with their combined views they should be able to come to the best possible objective decisions as opposed to monarchy in which one pony has ultimate power.
I laughed so hard at that post.Are you serious?Having 2 supreme same ranked rulers will split the world in half with war because of opinions.6 ponies will cause more chaos.Together , or not they are the second worst people fit for ruling equestria.Right after derpy.

You seriously have so little faith in democracy. A faction isn't going to rise up and over through twilight because she's not letting Pinkie have enough parties! They are all best friends, none of them want something completely contradictory to the others.
Wars or not they still know 0 about ruling a kingdom.They would put the world to chaos more than what discord would have ever done.
Twilight is very intelligent, and the rest are still favourable. Have faith.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: SOWTOJ on 2012 Aug 13, 00:16:13
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 12, 13:34:20
Luna:she doesn't even know much about the modern world.I bet she wouldn't know what appeloosa is since it was made 2 years ago relative to the appleloosa episode meaning it was made 1 year before nightmare moon was cured.

She has no choice but to be fit for the job. Let's not forget, Celestia could have easily been killed by Chrysalis and had that happened, Luna would be leading. Now of course, this is irrelevant to the question asked, or your point, but I highly doubt Luna is wasting her time doing nothing. I'm sure she's learning a lot, both about the new history of the land and how to be a better ruler. Besides, she already co-rules anyways, the recognition just isn't given.

That point aside, the rest of what you said pretty much nailed it. Derpy being on the list is just dumb. People wouldn't seriously want her leading. The Mane 6 are still young and none of them show any real interest in politics or ruling at all, except maybe Twilight. And that's a huge maybe. Even as a council that would vote upon any decision before it was put into practise, it wouldn't be for the best of Equestria.

However, I wouldn't brush Cadence off so easily. She is a princess, and though we have no idea where she is from or what even makes her a princess, there could be the potential of a good leader there. But that, and pretty much anything else in this thread, is all hypothetical.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 13, 00:20:37
Quote from: SOWTOJ on 2012 Aug 13, 00:16:13
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 12, 13:34:20
Luna:she doesn't even know much about the modern world.I bet she wouldn't know what appeloosa is since it was made 2 years ago relative to the appleloosa episode meaning it was made 1 year before nightmare moon was cured.

She has no choice but to be fit for the job. Let's not forget, Celestia could have easily been killed by Chrysalis and had that happened, Luna would be leading. Now of course, this is irrelevant to the question asked, or your point, but I highly doubt Luna is wasting her time doing nothing. I'm sure she's learning a lot, both about the new history of the land and how to be a better ruler. Besides, she already co-rules anyways, the recognition just isn't given.

That point aside, the rest of what you said pretty much nailed it. Derpy being on the list is just dumb. People wouldn't seriously want her leading. The Mane 6 are still young and none of them show any real interest in politics or ruling at all, except maybe Twilight. And that's a huge maybe. Even as a council that would vote upon any decision before it was put into practise, it wouldn't be for the best of Equestria.

However, I wouldn't brush Cadence off so easily. She is a princess, and though we have no idea where she is from or what even makes her a princess, there could be the potential of a good leader there. But that, and pretty much anything else in this thread, is all hypothetical.
I doubt that happens.Luna was in equestria for a year before nightmare night.Yet she still didn't know anything about anything.






Also 0 faith in the mane 6.Twilight getting info from a book doesn't make her a good ruler.They know 0 about economy , or anything.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 13, 00:22:27
Applejack and Rarity may know a bit about economy.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 13, 00:25:08
Quote from: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 13, 00:22:27
Applejack and Rarity may know a bit about economy.
Selling things doesn't automatically make you be aware of the economy.Selling stuff is just getting the stuff , and pick a reasonable price.Applejack knows nothing about politics.Period.
Mane 6 have 0 chance in making it in ruling equestria.Discord will be jealous of the chaos they would create as rulers.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 13, 00:25:59
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 13, 00:25:08
Quote from: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 13, 00:22:27
Applejack and Rarity may know a bit about economy.
Selling things doesn't automatically make you be aware of the economy.Selling stuff is just getting the stuff , and pick a reasonable price.Applejack knows nothing about politics.Period.
Mane 6 have 0 chance in making it in ruling equestria.Discord will be jealous of the chaos they would create as rulers.


Meh.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Johannes on 2012 Aug 13, 00:27:41
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 13, 00:25:08
-snip-
Mane 6 have 0 chance in making it in ruling equestria.Discord will be jealous of the chaos they would create as rulers.

I smell a comic...
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 13, 00:29:26
Quote from: Johannes on 2012 Aug 13, 00:27:41
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 13, 00:25:08
-snip-
Mane 6 have 0 chance in making it in ruling equestria.Discord will be jealous of the chaos they would create as rulers.

I smell a comic...



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  lol
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Ninkon on 2012 Aug 13, 00:46:42
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 13, 00:25:08
Quote from: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 13, 00:22:27
Applejack and Rarity may know a bit about economy.
Selling things doesn't automatically make you be aware of the economy.Selling stuff is just getting the stuff , and pick a reasonable price.Applejack knows nothing about politics.Period.
Mane 6 have 0 chance in making it in ruling equestria.Discord will be jealous of the chaos they would create as rulers.
Get out, just leave. Your hypothesis isn't proven so just step the buck down!  >:/
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 13, 00:50:02
Quote from: Ninkon on 2012 Aug 13, 00:46:42
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2012 Aug 13, 00:25:08
Quote from: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 13, 00:22:27
Applejack and Rarity may know a bit about economy.
Selling things doesn't automatically make you be aware of the economy.Selling stuff is just getting the stuff , and pick a reasonable price.Applejack knows nothing about politics.Period.
Mane 6 have 0 chance in making it in ruling equestria.Discord will be jealous of the chaos they would create as rulers.
Get out, just leave. Your hypothesis isn't proven so just step the buck down!  >:/

>Has "Faith" to back up arguement.
>Uses "No proof." as a rebuttal.
Flawless logic.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: SOWTOJ on 2012 Aug 13, 05:29:47
Quote from: Ninkon on 2012 Aug 13, 00:46:42
Get out, just leave. Your hypothesis isn't proven so just step the buck down!  >:/
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None of the hypothesis in this thread are proven. However, there is the heavily unfair advantage that Celestia has in already being a ruler, so any other suggestions don't really stand a chance in the face of her long rule. I only pick Luna because it would give another pony a chance to rule, and there really isn't any other good choice. She's the only other one with experience. It'd be boring to vote for Celestia.

Blues just needs to stop being such a buzz kill. This thread isn't super serious. The rules state not to argue politics, so don't bring real world politics into this. Our world is not run the way Equestria is.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Tiger on 2012 Aug 13, 06:25:31
Stop.
Just stop.
This has to stop.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 13, 16:42:13
now, class, please who can tell me what Rule Number 8 in the Forum Rules might be? ^-^
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 13, 17:04:16
8.) No Flaming / Arguing - Intelligent public debate is welcomed, however the moment your post contains insults or personal attacks, you are in violation of this rule and your post will be removed immediately. These will not be tolerated on this forum. We expect everyone to treat each other in a way which they, themselves, want to be treated, and that is with respect.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 13, 17:24:30
Quote from: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 13, 17:04:16
8.) No Flaming / Arguing - Intelligent public debate is welcomed, however the moment your post contains insults or personal attacks, you are in violation of this rule and your post will be removed immediately. These will not be tolerated on this forum. We expect everyone to treat each other in a way which they, themselves, want to be treated, and that is with respect.
Thank you, twelve points to Stitchin Time!  Now class, please remember to be nice and respectful of each other's opinions.  We are privileged to be allowed by Swebow and the mods to even be able to post here, much less discuss, so let's show our gratitude in that regard by refraining from telling each other to "get out", all right? ^-^

Now back on topic!
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 13, 17:33:02
Sticking to what I was saying. Celestia while Luna is learning more and co-ruling. When it's Tia's time to go, Luna will take over with Cadence and Shining Armor behind her. The mane six seem like teens or yound adults, and I bet we wouldn't wish as much strain as running a country on them. Derpy is simply a no. She'd probably burn the country to ashes.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Aug 13, 17:52:46
Quote from: Stitchin Time on 2012 Aug 13, 17:33:02
Sticking to what I was saying. Celestia while Luna is learning more and co-ruling. When it's Tia's time to go, Luna will take over with Cadence and Shining Armor behind her. The mane six seem like teens or yound adults, and I bet we wouldn't wish as much strain as running a country on them. Derpy is simply a no. She'd probably burn the country to ashes.
Seeing as that Alicorns seem to be essentially immortal/undying, I don't see a reason for Tia to leave, unless for a little vacation or something.
Title: Re: Who would you perfer as a Nation leader?
Post by: McSleuthburger on 2012 Aug 13, 18:27:57
stopping this now before somebody does something really stupid