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Just finished watching the console revealing of the new next gen "Xbox One" and I wanted to hear what ya guys and gals think of the whole thing.
^^^^^^
Also, why'd they choose Xbox One? Xbox720 and Xbox Infinity sounded better.
I think for now, I'll stick to my Xbox360 Slim.
I would of preferred Xbox Infinity it sounds cooler
I mean i know it is in his name but I've never seen him that angry before
It's going to be a huge 3-way split between the Wii U, PS4, and PC
By the way, don't be afraid to defend the Xbox One, we respect all views here <3
oh I would so love to see someone defend the Xbox One... that would be a hoot. lol
I know! It's uh... its..... um.... uh... OOH! It's the worlds greatest TV remote! :D
I think a lot of people do what I do. I understand if you disagree.
That reminds me of my nephew somehow selecting my entire desktop then saying delete when I was bored and testing out windows voice commands on the easy access area. I had to unplug the mic cause he was just laughing not realizing that he almost deleted gigabytes worth of data which at the time it was my old PC which didn't have a recycling bin capable of holding all of that data as I had never set the recycling bins memory high enough. So hoping those voice commands can be turned off I'd assume they can be or people wouldn't like it. I don't see myself getting one though unless a mass amount of RPG's I liked were released for it, and even then most games are multi platform now.
Sport, sports, sports :P
So I take it that this "Equestria Girls" isn't great I guess?
The Wii U went up in sales by a bunch after the conference too. Huh.
Seems to be the case doesn't it. E3 is in a little over a week so I have the following to look forward to:
1.) New games for my Wii U
2.) Getting to see the PS4. I propably won't buy it but I am interested
3.) The greatest comedy routine ever A.K.A. Microsoft's event.
I can only hope :I
Yeah, that could be a huge problem for those who have slightly trollish friends. Even some people watching the reveal on their xbox had issues with their kinect forcing them to the dashboard during the presentation.
Is exactly as forbiding players from play 2nd hand games without paying a fee to install them in the console, makes no sense, why would anyone choose that stupid restriction console instead of a PC or a PS4? (which also has better hardware specs).
This console is just sooooo ridiculous that i don't know how Microsoft is finding the valor to continue with it :l
I don't understand the people who're wholeheartedly backing Microsoft and actually saying that they're going to buy the Xbox One. One of my friends is one of those people. If the Xbox One isn't changed by the time it's released, I half-expect to end up seeing my friend post on Facebook complaining about his Xbox One, especially if he's only buying it out of expecting an Xbox One exclusive Halo game and they don't make one.
Microsoft fanatics has been there from the begining of time, so, it's not surprising to see that there are still some loyal fans willing to buy this... thing :l
I think they already announced around 15 exclusives for this new console, i think 7 of them were continues for existing sagas as "Halo" and "Gears of wars", but... it's just my personal opinion, i think that Halo 3 was a perfect ending for the saga, and 4 is just too lame, i'll never consider that new saga as part of the cannonic Halo, so, i think Halo is not worth enough at this moment to make someone buy this console, but there are ever fanatics as i said before :c
At this moment, it's just a matter of time to see how long take this console to sink if they don't do anything about those fees and limitations in the plataform, i must say that it will make me happy if they just lose lots of money with this abomination and insult to the gamer community intelligence :nod:
Yeah, i must admit that all of that live-action sounds cool, and there is even Mr. Spielberg as executive producer, so it all is really nice but, a live action series is not going to make me spend about 400 bucks or whatever this thing cost just to have a console that limits me in so many ways at the hour to enjoy playing games with my friends :I
I prefer "Destiny", and i think it was PS4 announced, not sure if it's going to come out to Xbox one, but i heard in an interview that PS4 has a better hardware to reproduce this game, so i'm fine with it ^-^
Who knows?, maybe in this E3 they show some incredibly legendary and full of epicness titles for Xbox one, and we all get zombizied and willing to buy this console at any cost and pay all that fees and stuff, but... i think that's pretty unlikely lol
My 3 initial thoughts of what it is by the title alone are:
1. Roller Coaster Tycoon ripoff
2. Banjo platformer to earn respect back after Nuts and Bolts. (why was that game so hated? I thought it was good...)
3. Banjo party minigames.
Whatever it is, is not a Conker sequel :c
If its real, I'm honestly not expecting it to be good. N&B was a great game in itself, but was terrible for a BK game. After doing a bit of looking around I've come to agree with some others, it sounds like it might be some kind of kinect party game... :(
I'd love to see conker return as well. I don't think it could be proper though. M$ likes focing Rare's hand wherever they please, and I think a large portion of those who worked on BK and conker left rare a while ago... Chris seavor especially, since he co-wrote conker, was the project lead, and is the voice of conker as well.
Though if they could revive either successfully, I'd have a bit of faith in M$. It's a wild card with ridiculously low odds of success, I'd say.
I'm pretty certain that the entirety of the team that worked at Rare during it's peak in the N64 days is gone. Even if there were a new Banjo-Kazooie or Conker game in the works, it would be done by a new development team.
Not to say I don't trust a new team in making a decent game, it's just very unlikely that the charm of the old games could be re-produced.
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Seriuosly, most failed video game plataform EVER! ^-^
Ragin Joe evolved into Viewtiful Joe.
I'll bet you a muffin for 10 at E3
What a beautiful line :3
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Very debatable. ovO
But in seriousness, has Microsoft addressed any of this hillarious negativity yet?
Kind of. We now know for certain M$ doesn't want "peasants" to own an xbox one; If you don't have access to the internet, get an xbox 360! They're really doing a terrible job of marketing it to those who aren't fanatical fanboys.
I love "That 70's Show". :D
It seems fake, but in a way, it does make sense... I think M$ is being just dumb with all we have seen from their first conference and from E3. It's impossible for them to be just ignoring all the rant about their console and it's features. I never liked M$, but it was aways good at convincing people to buy their stuff. But this past days they have been just looking like fools, and Sony is taking all the advantage it can from this situation. Even if I will probably be getting a PS4 at the end, I don't think M$ will let things go as it is...
It does kind of make sense, but there's still the counter-argument that people can download games on the PS3 and Wii and don't need to connect to the internet to check in every 24 hours.
And unless I see someone from Microsoft really say this kind of stuff and explain this stuff, I won't believe it. As it stands right now, it's just a fan trying to justify the Xbox One with their own speculation.
I wonder what happened to Microsoft for them to make things like Windows 8 and Xbox One, though. Did they bring on some new people who came up with this stuff? Did they lose some people who prevented bad ideas? What happened?
Honestly, if they snap out of this and stop making such bad/weird decisions, I'll likely resume buying their products. But for now, I won't stand for that crud.
So what if ten people of your family could play?It's very rare for TWO family members to play video games. Also even if someone has a family of ten gamers it's still not a positive. Just because it was something worse , and they turned it less so doesn't make it good. Before we knew that we couldn't lend games , but now we know we can only lend to 10 people on the same console. So just because it's a tiny , and unnoticable slightly remove of a negative does not make it a positive.
Never in my life will I consider this console. The wii-U is superior anyway.
It allows you to share you're library with 9 others(or is the 10 not including you?) so long as they are in your "family". So you can also share all your games with your closest friends if only you or a single sibling play games, though restricting some simultaneous play. I think its two can play the same single player game, but I think multiplayer is completely denied simul-play aside from splitscreen.
So 10 people have access a game library where each game was payed for once, instead of 10 times. Its actually pretty good, but its certainly not enticing me to buy.
It's like a small island in the sea of bad features, might be enough to save the crew of the sinking USS XBox 1.
I wanna know if that selection of people is permanent. Like, if I fill my list with people, have a fight with someone, and decide I don't wanna share my games with that person anymore, will I be able to remove them from my list and replace them with someone else? (That's saying if I bought an Xbox One, which I likely won't.)
It also confuses me that Microsoft is doing this. Are they starting to give in, trying to get people to come back and consider the Xbox One? Letting 10 people play your games freely kind of defeats the purpose of Microsoft's used games hate. If those 10 people can play my copy of Halo 5, I don't think they're gonna buy Halo 5 for themselves... unless there are limitations they haven't told us about yet.
Also, as far as privacy settings go, there are people who are not convinced about the Kinect privacy settings or anything else Microsoft is saying about the Xbox One Kinect. Among those people who aren't convinced are people who actually own a Kinect themselves. Not only does the Kinect notice everyone, regardless of whether they're playing or not, it also picks up on everyone's voices, regardless of whether or not they're in its view. My mom's friend has had trouble with her daughter talking to her while she uses it and the Kinect picking up on her daughter's voice and responding to it.
So, just think, the Xbox One's Kinect will always be on. It'll always be watching and listening. It will always see you, and it will always listen to what anyone within its "hearing" range says.
Ahhh. So that's that "If you're using another console, you have to check in every hour" I heard about. That's annoying. :\
And I'm still not happy about the regulations on used games. Seriously, companies should not get to decide what I can do with my copy of a game. I bought it, and therefore, I now own it. It's mine to do with what I want (except make copies of it because that's illegal).
There's also the fact that Microsoft has apparently not said anything about what the used game regulations are gonna be on first party games.
Post Merge
I just realized.
People can't just go rogue and sell their games on eBay or anything like that because the games won't work on other people's Xbox One.
I'd rather sell my games on eBay than at GameStop, personally, because I'm pretty sure I'd get more money out of it from eBay. All you have to do is sell it for more than GameStop would give you, but for less than GameStop would sell it for.
So, effectively, I can choose up to 10 different people who can play the games I bought on my (hypothetical) Xbox one.
I have six consoles. Anyone and any number of people in the world can come to my house and play these consoles without limit of a third party.
I hope I'm missing something with this one, because it seems like yet another negative worded to sound like a positive.
You are not missing a single thing. Microsoft is clearly calling you, and me, and all the gamers that are supossed to buy this console, "Stupid" right in our faces, just for the motivation of money and the wrong idea that they can actually make us buy this monster and violate our minds with those childish lies.
I say this, if someone buy this console, will be showing to microsoft that they can do as they want with our rights as "customers", that we are so poorly proud of ourselves as gamers to let them steal our money right in our faces, and still be happy with that.
I say, as gamer and customer that belives in his rigths, that this console doesn't represent a "New generation of gaming", but a "New generation of stealing", and we are called to stop this madness by not buying this abomination, and keep our voices louder in the telling of the truth, to our friends, and anyone that is considering in buying it, and hope they'll become aware about this matter and what this actually represents for us as a collective of customers and for the integrity of our rights.
They can steal our money, but they can't steal our pride bros ^-^
That's one of the most true things I've ever heard. If they didn't want money, they would give everything at the lowest cost and they wouldn't be as rich as they are, and that goes for M$ and Sony. M$ is just doing things wrong this time, but Sony is taking advantage of their mistakes and giving us gamers what we want, so we can buy PS4 and give Sony our money. But we will have to choose to give our money to one of them, anyway, so that we give it to the one who gives us what we want. Let's at least have a fair trade.
One thing is the obvious statement that companies want money, but another thing, is what microsoft is doing in the claim of that money.
Now, they are NOT selling us games, they are RENTING us those games, which is an insult to our rights as customers, since if i'm paying you a game, that games is now MINE, and i should be able to do whatever i want with it since it's MY game.
And that's what is so disapointing about Microsoft, and that's why Sony is going to win this "New gen" battle.
Remember though everybody who plays online agrees to the "Terms of Service" or "Terms of Agreement" or blah blah blah when you register for your online account
When are agree you are basically signing away all your rights and they can do whatever they want with the account now
Not trying to defend M$, but you know the way Steam does things is really similar to what M$ wants to do, right? We buy games on Steam, but we can't resell it nor lend it to anyone. The only difference is that Steam lets you play your single player games offline without having to check from time to time, but you need to be logged in to access your games, even offline. The real advantage of Steam over everything is the games' prices and Steam sales. Otherwise, it would be as bad as the Xbox One. I'm really starting to think M$ is really doing things based on Steam, what wouldn't be really that bad if they could sell games with really low prices from time to time, mainly for people like me who lives in a country were games prices are full of taxes.
I'm still going to get a PS4 (and the fact people are estimating the Xbox One to be sold here for the equivalent of US$1000 and the PS4 has chances to be sold for the true price of US$400 really helps my decision), but I don't really think M$ is as dumb as they are looking like.
It just sucks that it takes away offline play as well.
I don't have to log in to Steam to access my games, I don't think. I put shortcuts to them on my desktop.
And the thing is, people are used to that kind of thing on the PC. We download games on the PC all the time. With Minecraft, you have to pay for your account, and then you download the game. Bam. It's kind of hard to work out reselling games that you've downloaded.
In the real world, we have the concept of owning a physical copy of something, like a disc. We're used to that. We like that. We like being able to hold onto our rights to that physical copy that we purchased because we paid for the rights to that thing. It's like a company trying to put restrictions on the resale and usage of DVDs. With the Xbox One, it feels more like we'll be renting their games instead of buying them. Like they're letting us play them, like it's a privilege to play them.
Besides that, I've never been a fan of Xbox Live anyway. :P Especially with the fact that you have to have Xbox Live to use Netflix on the Xbox360. My mom was so angry when she found that out. She's already paying for Netflix, and she doesn't want to have to pay again just to use it on her console. So, she's been using my PS3 for Netflix because it doesn't charge you for using Netflix on it.
(What is not really my case... I had to cut some costs when I bought my PC and had to get a 500 GB HD... I freaking need a new one... :P)
That can be a problem, but it's easy to solve by allowing the usage of external HDs. And having to check every 24 hours avoid the trouble of having hackers using games pre-installed in external HD, as every game you buy is registered under your name.
Well I don't know for certain, but I'd say ps4 can do the same as ps3; it has a 2.5"(laptop) HDD bay so can be swapped with any 2.5" sata hard drive. In fact, the ps3 does support up to at least a 2TB hard drive. The only downside may be the available bandwidth, though they're probably going with SATA 6Gb/s. My guess for the xbox one is that it'll have proprietary storage, and cost significantly more. And have they stated the ps4 won't allow for game installation? It is a nice option to have. Unless of course any of this stuff as been confirmed otherwise.
Though they will both probably support external drives, since I believe both ps3 and 360 do.
They support external harddrives? :o How many people know about this?
Yeah, Its been too long since I cared about storage on my 360.X3 They do support usb HDDs, but only up to 32GB. Ps3 on the other hand seems to properly support them.
Well it is definitely possible to do, though it might be ridiculously improbable.
If it makes you feel any better, the people who are good enough to do that would probably spend their S1cK H4x0R Sk1llz with something like threatening national security.
Well that came as a surprise...
In a single moment Microsoft took a drastic change in the complete opposite direction.
I'd be happy if this is true, but please pardon my urge to feel skeptical.
The fact that they put all the restrictions to begin with and thought they could get away with it is more then enough for me not to get Xbox One.
Xbox 180. ovO
*Shrug* We're still getting a PS4 when we can afford it.
Public outcry, and protest win the day :D
It's more than confirmed, MS has understood that the customers are more important than they expected in a first moment.
Well, even if MS quit the restrictions on the console, i still do not want it, because i know that when a lot of Xbox one will be sold, they are going to put some new restrictions and try to gain more money trough our customers rigths, i basically don't trust in this console.
Sorry bout that, was quite tired when I posted it... X3 And you speak the truth, they "did it for the consumers" because they wouldn't get many sales otherwise. Really the only thing they had going for them was the idea for family sharing, and they're taking it away because they're bad.
Trolling as in trolls started the petitions.
That was the video where I found the information, but I choose not to post it because....
because, well, the profanity is staggering. X3
Bah hum Bug.
:3
Your lucky I <3 U like a Moon cat from Sailor Moon or I would've bring da paine.
lol If you brought the paine, my sig says it all (I'm being chased by you, that's what I mean)
It's actually just showing how the pass-through feature for TV works on the X-Box One...
MARIO CROSSING OVER OTHER CONSOLES~ Only he could do it. X3
...still ain't buying. Too high for my blood.
Question: Are you getting Xbox One?
Option 1: Yes
votes: 3
Option 2: No
votes: 10
Title: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 21, 16:15:59
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 21, 16:15:59
Just finished watching the console revealing of the new next gen "Xbox One" and I wanted to hear what ya guys and gals think of the whole thing.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Rissian on 2013 May 21, 16:35:13
Post by: Rissian on 2013 May 21, 16:35:13
I'm kinda not interested in it because I've heard used games won't be possible to play on it. Not every one can afford new games, and not many next gen games have interested me yet. All I really want to get is a PS3 and a Wii U.
Wind Waker HD. :3 And a bunch of other games plus MGS4 for PS3.
But yeah not much on the Xbox One has interested me yet.
Wind Waker HD. :3 And a bunch of other games plus MGS4 for PS3.
But yeah not much on the Xbox One has interested me yet.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 May 21, 16:38:51
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 May 21, 16:38:51
Quote from: Trege on 2013 May 21, 16:35:13
I'm kinda not interested in it because I've heard used games won't be possible to play on it. Not every one can afford new games
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Also, why'd they choose Xbox One? Xbox720 and Xbox Infinity sounded better.
I think for now, I'll stick to my Xbox360 Slim.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: super_chris85 on 2013 May 21, 16:43:45
Post by: super_chris85 on 2013 May 21, 16:43:45
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 May 21, 16:38:51Quote from: Trege on 2013 May 21, 16:35:13
I'm kinda not interested in it because I've heard used games won't be possible to play on it. Not every one can afford new games
^^^^^^
Also, why'd they choose Xbox One? Xbox720 and Xbox Infinity sounded better.
I think for now, I'll stick to my Xbox360 Slim.
I would of preferred Xbox Infinity it sounds cooler
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 21, 16:47:28
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 21, 16:47:28
Pretty upset about no bc on XBLA... No Minecraft, no Perfect Dark, no Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie, no Happy Wars, no Jet Set Radio, no Sonic CD, no Yu-Gi-oh 5Ds Decade Duels............
Just saw Angry Joe's rant about the whole thing and he is NOT happy! :[
Just saw Angry Joe's rant about the whole thing and he is NOT happy! :[
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 May 21, 22:18:10
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 May 21, 22:18:10
http://techcrunch.com/2013/05/21/heres-your-new-xbox-one-microsofts-all-in-one-home-entertainment-system/
As a person with small hands (I am 5'0", after all), I'm not sure I like the look of the controller. I can manage the Xbox360 controller, and I had trouble with the original Xbox controller.
As a person with small hands (I am 5'0", after all), I'm not sure I like the look of the controller. I can manage the Xbox360 controller, and I had trouble with the original Xbox controller.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Book Smarts on 2013 May 21, 23:53:09
Post by: Book Smarts on 2013 May 21, 23:53:09
Looks like the new Xbox controller is going to have some unnecessary weight >A<
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 May 22, 06:56:47
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 May 22, 06:56:47
All my thoughts are resumed in this video:
(( Sorry, we don't allow any harsh language, censored or not. ))
This console is just the demonstration of how robbers are in Microsoft, and how they belittle our intelligence as customers :l
(( Sorry, we don't allow any harsh language, censored or not. ))
This console is just the demonstration of how robbers are in Microsoft, and how they belittle our intelligence as customers :l
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: super_chris85 on 2013 May 22, 11:50:42
Post by: super_chris85 on 2013 May 22, 11:50:42
I mean i know it is in his name but I've never seen him that angry before
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 22, 11:56:15
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 22, 11:56:15
Can't say I blame him considering he pretty much reviews Xbox 360 games and now with this new console... What's gonna happen now?
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: super_chris85 on 2013 May 22, 11:59:21
Post by: super_chris85 on 2013 May 22, 11:59:21
well he is right im what the hay paying for games that are used TWICE so I would be mad too and makes me want to play Pc games more than buy this
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 22, 12:02:48
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 22, 12:02:48
I still cannot understand no BC on games like XBLA, I mean HELLO?! MINECRAFT?!?! ISN'T THAT A POPULAR GAME TO DOWNLOAD?!
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: super_chris85 on 2013 May 22, 12:07:54
Post by: super_chris85 on 2013 May 22, 12:07:54
well the sad part is not only do they have Minecraft but they have all of these spins-off on indie games that it is redundant especially when you can play it on pc where you can get mods and plus you can get a lot of the games that people play on the Pc somewhere
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Book Smarts on 2013 May 22, 13:29:51
Post by: Book Smarts on 2013 May 22, 13:29:51
Just looking at the console itself... It's huge! You go from a slim machine, back a giant monster of a case. The Xbox One actually reminds me of the original Xbox. The Kinect accessory is also unnecessarily big, isn't it suppose to be over your tv?
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 May 22, 13:35:42
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 May 22, 13:35:42
Meh. I'm sticking with the wii-u.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 May 22, 14:01:54
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 May 22, 14:01:54
xbox one? You're talking about this right?
Joking aside, it looks like I'll only be getting a wii u, and possibly a ps4 if persona remains an exclusive. As much as I love xbox exclusives, I refuse to get this until they remove the leash from consumers...
As for the backward compatibility issue, as annoying as it is there is a good reason for it; this system has completely new architecture so it would more than likely require devs to do huge edits to the game to make it run optimally.
Spoiler: show
Joking aside, it looks like I'll only be getting a wii u, and possibly a ps4 if persona remains an exclusive. As much as I love xbox exclusives, I refuse to get this until they remove the leash from consumers...
As for the backward compatibility issue, as annoying as it is there is a good reason for it; this system has completely new architecture so it would more than likely require devs to do huge edits to the game to make it run optimally.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Ateren on 2013 May 22, 14:56:02
Post by: Ateren on 2013 May 22, 14:56:02
I wonder how Gamefly is going to do if all their games that people borrow like netflix are blocked from the consoles. :c
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Teal Turken on 2013 May 22, 15:25:45
Post by: Teal Turken on 2013 May 22, 15:25:45
Xbox One...
I don't need to say much as Angry Joe already has said so, as well as AlphaOmegaSin has as well.
I like to play games with my brother and my Dad, sometimes my neighbor when he visits...but we can't play them together if we have to pay extra money per account to use on one game.
Lets say Halo 5 on Xbox One. We buy it $60 dollars. One person uses the code to play it.
2-3 other people pay I'm going to guess $5-$15 dollars per account, which totals up to either $15(3x5),$30(3x10) or $45(3x15).
Yeah, no thank you Microsoft.
I don't need to say much as Angry Joe already has said so, as well as AlphaOmegaSin has as well.
I like to play games with my brother and my Dad, sometimes my neighbor when he visits...but we can't play them together if we have to pay extra money per account to use on one game.
Lets say Halo 5 on Xbox One. We buy it $60 dollars. One person uses the code to play it.
2-3 other people pay I'm going to guess $5-$15 dollars per account, which totals up to either $15(3x5),$30(3x10) or $45(3x15).
Yeah, no thank you Microsoft.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: super_chris85 on 2013 May 22, 15:59:50
Post by: super_chris85 on 2013 May 22, 15:59:50
So how many Microsoft fans gonna convert to Sony fans
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 May 22, 16:46:04
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 May 22, 16:46:04
Well I was originally microsoft/nintendo fan , but i'm converting to sony/nintendo!
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 May 22, 16:58:23
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 May 22, 16:58:23
My mom is angry about this, as well. We will not be buying an Xbox One. :l
This is going to affect any stores that sell or rent out video games. This is the dumbest decision ever made by a video game company. Microsoft's gaming division is going to hemorrhage money. Anyone who's smart will turn to the PS4 or Wii-U. I'm sure anyone who has a computer that's good enough to run such games was already planning on playing them on their computer.
This is going to affect any stores that sell or rent out video games. This is the dumbest decision ever made by a video game company. Microsoft's gaming division is going to hemorrhage money. Anyone who's smart will turn to the PS4 or Wii-U. I'm sure anyone who has a computer that's good enough to run such games was already planning on playing them on their computer.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Book Smarts on 2013 May 22, 20:55:37
Post by: Book Smarts on 2013 May 22, 20:55:37
Quote from: super_chris85 on 2013 May 22, 15:59:50
So how many Microsoft fans gonna convert to Sony fans
It's going to be a huge 3-way split between the Wii U, PS4, and PC
By the way, don't be afraid to defend the Xbox One, we respect all views here <3
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 22, 20:58:01
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 22, 20:58:01
Quote from: Book Smarts on 2013 May 22, 20:55:37Quote from: super_chris85 on 2013 May 22, 15:59:50
So how many Microsoft fans gonna convert to Sony fans
It's going to be a huge 3-way split between the Wii U, PS4, and PC
By the way, don't be afraid to defend the Xbox One, we respect all views here <3
oh I would so love to see someone defend the Xbox One... that would be a hoot. lol
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Ateren on 2013 May 22, 22:07:12
Post by: Ateren on 2013 May 22, 22:07:12
Quote from: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 22, 20:58:01Quote from: Book Smarts on 2013 May 22, 20:55:37
It's going to be a huge 3-way split between the Wii U, PS4, and PC
By the way, don't be afraid to defend the Xbox One, we respect all views here <3
oh I would so love to see someone defend the Xbox One... that would be a hoot. lol
I know! It's uh... its..... um.... uh... OOH! It's the worlds greatest TV remote! :D
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: byndbored on 2013 May 22, 22:35:10
Post by: byndbored on 2013 May 22, 22:35:10
No offense to anyone but I have a feeling this console is going to fail.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 May 23, 05:31:05
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 May 23, 05:31:05
Quote from: Book Smarts on 2013 May 22, 20:55:37Actually I always do something where nintendo comes first (Unless they make a fail console , but the wii u is a big success to me.) I of course have a PC , but not for console reasons. Yeah I play games on it , but I mostly got it for the internet. So PC doesn't upgrade that frequently so I stick to what I got. The actualy choice is between the new Xbox console , and the new PS console. So no matter what I always HAVE a PC , and buy the new nintendo console , but this time i'm sticking with the PS4.Quote from: super_chris85 on 2013 May 22, 15:59:50
So how many Microsoft fans gonna convert to Sony fans
It's going to be a huge 3-way split between the Wii U, PS4, and PC
By the way, don't be afraid to defend the Xbox One, we respect all views here <3
I think a lot of people do what I do. I understand if you disagree.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 May 23, 07:46:52
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 May 23, 07:46:52
SUPER accurate video XD
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 23, 09:19:28
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 23, 09:19:28
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/05/microsoft_to_announce_sequel_to_historic_rare_franchise_at_e3
God let it be Perfect Dark 2 or Banjo-Threeie!!!
God let it be Perfect Dark 2 or Banjo-Threeie!!!
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 May 23, 10:42:58
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 May 23, 10:42:58
"Welcome to the ultimate experience! Here you can watch television without pushing a button!"
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 23, 11:18:50
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 23, 11:18:50
Worse thing about the Xbox One is Kinect... Everyone would be using them as mics... Good lord...
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Zeekar on 2013 May 23, 14:52:29
Post by: Zeekar on 2013 May 23, 14:52:29
The Xbox One huh...well...On my opinion.It looks like a VSR.The Fee thing is very much so not needed,and TV.Really.TV.We need a TV to PLAY Xbox...Why would I want to use my Xbox to WATCH TV......I mean comeon.During that whole discussion,I heard TV atleast 30 times.Ugh.They really screwed up this time :l.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 May 23, 15:28:32
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 May 23, 15:28:32
My household is paying for a very good cable deal to watch TV. We have a cable box. Why do we need an Xbox to watch TV? I'd rather watch my channels in HD and use our DVR. I mean, we just managed to get a cheaper deal on great cable. Why do we want to spend $300 on an Xbox... to watch TV?
Meanwhile, I've always said that voice command is overrated. Too many people have jerk friends who'll say a command that their friend doesn't want to happen. I'm surprised that I even saw a commercial advertising such a thing where that happened. I was like "That's supposed to make me want to buy that? The fact that my friend can come in, say something, and ruin my game?"
Meanwhile, I've always said that voice command is overrated. Too many people have jerk friends who'll say a command that their friend doesn't want to happen. I'm surprised that I even saw a commercial advertising such a thing where that happened. I was like "That's supposed to make me want to buy that? The fact that my friend can come in, say something, and ruin my game?"
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KoalaLover99 on 2013 May 23, 15:32:53
Post by: KoalaLover99 on 2013 May 23, 15:32:53
Oh wow. I'll stick to my PC thanks. :P I really hope this system fails. It seems terrible for me to say it but I really do. Then all my guy-friends at school can play with me on PS4's :D
Also I was watching the Philipp De Franco show and apparently those who were watching the stream on the x-box w/ their kinect on had problems. When they said stuff like "x-box, go home", their kinects picked it up, and did what they said lol
Also I was watching the Philipp De Franco show and apparently those who were watching the stream on the x-box w/ their kinect on had problems. When they said stuff like "x-box, go home", their kinects picked it up, and did what they said lol
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Rissian on 2013 May 23, 15:56:17
Post by: Rissian on 2013 May 23, 15:56:17
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 May 23, 15:28:32
My household is paying for a very good cable deal to watch TV. We have a cable box. Why do we need an Xbox to watch TV? I'd rather watch my channels in HD and use our DVR. I mean, we just managed to get a cheaper deal on great cable. Why do we want to spend $300 on an Xbox... to watch TV?
Meanwhile, I've always said that voice command is overrated. Too many people have jerk friends who'll say a command that their friend doesn't want to happen. I'm surprised that I even saw a commercial advertising such a thing where that happened. I was like "That's supposed to make me want to buy that? The fact that my friend can come in, say something, and ruin my game?"
That reminds me of my nephew somehow selecting my entire desktop then saying delete when I was bored and testing out windows voice commands on the easy access area. I had to unplug the mic cause he was just laughing not realizing that he almost deleted gigabytes worth of data which at the time it was my old PC which didn't have a recycling bin capable of holding all of that data as I had never set the recycling bins memory high enough. So hoping those voice commands can be turned off I'd assume they can be or people wouldn't like it. I don't see myself getting one though unless a mass amount of RPG's I liked were released for it, and even then most games are multi platform now.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Book Smarts on 2013 May 23, 16:26:30
Post by: Book Smarts on 2013 May 23, 16:26:30
Quote from: KireiameJin on 2013 May 23, 07:46:52
SUPER accurate video XD
Sport, sports, sports :P
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 23, 17:22:58
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 23, 17:22:58
This should be the next COD. Dogs? Who needs them?!
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 May 23, 21:50:27
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 May 23, 21:50:27
Apparently, after the press conference, Microsoft stock went down and both Nintendo and Sony stock went up.
The thing is an absolute mess and only shows how much Microsoft wants to squeeze as much money as they can from its supporters while stunting both their options and margin.
They're downright abusing their loyal (Good lord, have you met an Xbox fanboy? They'd marry the box if they could.) fanbase and, by the end of this, I'd be stunned if they had anyone left on their side. I just can not imagine how any gamer could be in favor of anything Microsoft is doing.
The thing is an absolute mess and only shows how much Microsoft wants to squeeze as much money as they can from its supporters while stunting both their options and margin.
They're downright abusing their loyal (Good lord, have you met an Xbox fanboy? They'd marry the box if they could.) fanbase and, by the end of this, I'd be stunned if they had anyone left on their side. I just can not imagine how any gamer could be in favor of anything Microsoft is doing.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 May 24, 00:49:30
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 May 24, 00:49:30
So I'm browsing Facebook.
I see that my friend voted on a poll.
"Which gaming console will you be backing this Holiday season?"
>Xbox One - 196 votes
>PlayStation 4 - 409 votes
>Wii U - 63 votes
>I'm fine with my current console, thanks - 311 votes
He picked PS4, and my vote for Wii U brings it up to 64 votes. I kind of feel sorry for those 196 who picked Xbox One.
P.S. I picked Wii U because there's still the issue of PS4 apparently not being backwards compatible, and the fact that I'm still not one for having my games be on something like a cloud storage. I'd rather have physical copies of all my games, always. But PS4 is still likely better than Xbox One at this point.
I see that my friend voted on a poll.
"Which gaming console will you be backing this Holiday season?"
>Xbox One - 196 votes
>PlayStation 4 - 409 votes
>Wii U - 63 votes
>I'm fine with my current console, thanks - 311 votes
He picked PS4, and my vote for Wii U brings it up to 64 votes. I kind of feel sorry for those 196 who picked Xbox One.
P.S. I picked Wii U because there's still the issue of PS4 apparently not being backwards compatible, and the fact that I'm still not one for having my games be on something like a cloud storage. I'd rather have physical copies of all my games, always. But PS4 is still likely better than Xbox One at this point.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 May 24, 02:46:07
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 May 24, 02:46:07
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7486922240/hFCA41BF0/)
Even though I will give equestria girls a chance.
Even though I will give equestria girls a chance.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 24, 07:35:24
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 May 24, 07:35:24
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2013 May 24, 02:46:07
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7486922240/hFCA41BF0/)
Even though I will give equestria girls a chance.
So I take it that this "Equestria Girls" isn't great I guess?
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 May 24, 08:26:43
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 May 24, 08:26:43
Actually I got no beef with it. I just found the meme funny , and decided to post it. I don't really want to go into conversation about equestria girls , but all i'm going to say is "Who knows."
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 May 24, 15:25:29
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 May 24, 15:25:29
I just got an email from Microsoft about the Xbox One.
"Cutting edge design meets cutting edge technology. "
>Cutting edge design
"Its innovative technology is rivaled only by its iconic design. Sharp corners and clean lines make for a sleek, modern console that complements any decor."
>iconic design
>sleek
Sorry, Microsoft, but I like the design of the Xbox360 Slim better.
"Cutting edge design meets cutting edge technology. "
>Cutting edge design
"Its innovative technology is rivaled only by its iconic design. Sharp corners and clean lines make for a sleek, modern console that complements any decor."
>iconic design
>sleek
Sorry, Microsoft, but I like the design of the Xbox360 Slim better.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: AlDeezy on 2013 May 25, 01:39:20
Post by: AlDeezy on 2013 May 25, 01:39:20
Hah, I saw the reveal live, and after bumming around and getting other inputs, I think I've decided.... that I don't know enough to make a valid opinion.
Remember, this was just the REVEAL of the console, not a showcase. So it's pretty hard to judge whether or not you or I or anyone will like it. That being said, I still have very low expectations for the XBox 720.
We're reaching a point in gaming where the graphical updates will be so unnoticeable that we won't even notice, but we're STILL in the point in gaming where marketing updated graphics is still viable; less effective, but viable. I am pleased to see that Microsoft showcased all the extra stuff the 720 can do now as opposed to later because I don't know about you, but I want to see release titles during E3, not the "New innovations in TV, Internet Browsing, etc etc blah blah blah" that was covered a few days ago.
Cool job Microsoft. Awesome work with planning (hopefully)! But you console... is it up to snuff as it stands? In my honest opinion.... No. If I am going to enter this new generation of consoles, I am not giving you my money, Microsoft. Uh uh. Nooooo way, Jose.
1. The new kinect. Pointless as always. Kudos on taking another step towards virtual reality gaming, though!
2. Required downloads to the HDD. Cool, but you made it impossible to swap out HDDs. And you made the storage cap 500 gigs. The average game nowadays takes up between 15 and 30 gigs. Do the math.
2[cont.]. Not that I really expect more than 4 games to actually be worth buying for your console. Actually, 500 gigs is MORE than enough! They already know their games are all going to be terrible, guys!
and 3. Used games. Deezy loooooves him some used games. I like loaning games, I even like borrowing games. And NO WAY am I going to give you any more of my money to be able to play a used game. I don't care if it's a penny, half a penny, or even so infinitesimal of an amount that dirt would be worth more, you are already swimming in a pool made of gold, I am not going to cough up more bills for you to use as toilet paper.
RANT. OVER.
Remember, this was just the REVEAL of the console, not a showcase. So it's pretty hard to judge whether or not you or I or anyone will like it. That being said, I still have very low expectations for the XBox 720.
We're reaching a point in gaming where the graphical updates will be so unnoticeable that we won't even notice, but we're STILL in the point in gaming where marketing updated graphics is still viable; less effective, but viable. I am pleased to see that Microsoft showcased all the extra stuff the 720 can do now as opposed to later because I don't know about you, but I want to see release titles during E3, not the "New innovations in TV, Internet Browsing, etc etc blah blah blah" that was covered a few days ago.
Cool job Microsoft. Awesome work with planning (hopefully)! But you console... is it up to snuff as it stands? In my honest opinion.... No. If I am going to enter this new generation of consoles, I am not giving you my money, Microsoft. Uh uh. Nooooo way, Jose.
1. The new kinect. Pointless as always. Kudos on taking another step towards virtual reality gaming, though!
2. Required downloads to the HDD. Cool, but you made it impossible to swap out HDDs. And you made the storage cap 500 gigs. The average game nowadays takes up between 15 and 30 gigs. Do the math.
2[cont.]. Not that I really expect more than 4 games to actually be worth buying for your console. Actually, 500 gigs is MORE than enough! They already know their games are all going to be terrible, guys!
and 3. Used games. Deezy loooooves him some used games. I like loaning games, I even like borrowing games. And NO WAY am I going to give you any more of my money to be able to play a used game. I don't care if it's a penny, half a penny, or even so infinitesimal of an amount that dirt would be worth more, you are already swimming in a pool made of gold, I am not going to cough up more bills for you to use as toilet paper.
RANT. OVER.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 May 25, 06:25:31
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 May 25, 06:25:31
Me talking to a friend:Oh hey dude I hear you bought "Blah" can I borrow it?
Microsoft: LOLNOPE you have to borrow his console too if you want to play it!
Also why do we even need disks again? If Microsoft disables it the second I put it on my account why give me the disk? Why not just buy a piece of paper with the code on it. I just type it in , and the game downloads.
Also the whole used game mechanism is that when you buy a CD it has a serial number where I put in my Xbox one. When I do that Microsoft disables the code for further use. Basically forcing me to get a billion copies of this one game if I ever want to have some friends over.
Okay I get tons of friends over to play video games. Most of the times we hold tournaments where they invite their friends over to play. We often reach 25-50 people per tournament. I'm not joking our record for most people was about 50. So basically if we wanted to play an Xbox game that was for 340$ we would have to buy it 50 times. So basically 340 X 50 = 17000. So with that money I can buy a new home , but i'd use it for buying 50 of the same game to let some friends play.
Microsoft. I have no words. This console sucked before it came out.
Microsoft: LOLNOPE you have to borrow his console too if you want to play it!
Also why do we even need disks again? If Microsoft disables it the second I put it on my account why give me the disk? Why not just buy a piece of paper with the code on it. I just type it in , and the game downloads.
Also the whole used game mechanism is that when you buy a CD it has a serial number where I put in my Xbox one. When I do that Microsoft disables the code for further use. Basically forcing me to get a billion copies of this one game if I ever want to have some friends over.
Okay I get tons of friends over to play video games. Most of the times we hold tournaments where they invite their friends over to play. We often reach 25-50 people per tournament. I'm not joking our record for most people was about 50. So basically if we wanted to play an Xbox game that was for 340$ we would have to buy it 50 times. So basically 340 X 50 = 17000. So with that money I can buy a new home , but i'd use it for buying 50 of the same game to let some friends play.
Microsoft. I have no words. This console sucked before it came out.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Flamestriker on 2013 May 25, 08:14:46
Post by: Flamestriker on 2013 May 25, 08:14:46
I don't like it at all. Kinect is the most overrated control system in the world, usually inaccurate and annoying, and the price for that giant box is way too high. I've never owned an Xbox because I've never liked it, and I don't think this new console will change my mind. I prefer my PS3 and Wii (planning to get a Wii U... just saving up!).
However, only time will tell how it will fare in the end....
However, only time will tell how it will fare in the end....
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Science Woona on 2013 May 25, 08:25:52
Post by: Science Woona on 2013 May 25, 08:25:52
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/2e394b07641da08733b66f868fa353b0/tumblr_mnbfurfu5q1r8tmq7o1_500.jpg)
I friggen love my Xbox 360. Then they throw this crap here, no thank you.
Requires a kinect
Requires internet connection
Can't play used games without paying them full price
Indie dev's are in trouble
Gotta buy practically a whole new cable box with this one (But hay, multitasking! :l)
The Kinect is ALWAYS on and ALWAYS watching (Remember the nifty "Xbox on" feature? That means your kinect is on all the time)
Games HAVE to be installed on the hard drive...
I'm sticking to the 360, PC, and Gamecube, thank you.
I friggen love my Xbox 360. Then they throw this crap here, no thank you.
Requires a kinect
Requires internet connection
Can't play used games without paying them full price
Indie dev's are in trouble
Gotta buy practically a whole new cable box with this one (But hay, multitasking! :l)
The Kinect is ALWAYS on and ALWAYS watching (Remember the nifty "Xbox on" feature? That means your kinect is on all the time)
Games HAVE to be installed on the hard drive...
I'm sticking to the 360, PC, and Gamecube, thank you.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 May 25, 17:42:02
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 May 25, 17:42:02
While Microsoft is faffing about, I don't think I'll be upgrading to the next gen until I see games I really want. Even then, the next gen console I get will probably be PS4. I'd have to tesdrive a Wii U to fully decide whether or not I want one.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Spencer the Pegasus Guard on 2013 May 25, 20:21:17
Post by: Spencer the Pegasus Guard on 2013 May 25, 20:21:17
Never liked X-Box and never will.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: AlDeezy on 2013 May 25, 23:04:25
Post by: AlDeezy on 2013 May 25, 23:04:25
Also, did you guys hear that Sony's stock jumped ~10% after the reveal?
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a483500/sony-stock-jumps-9-percent-after-xbox-one-reveal.html
They say it's just a coincidence, but I say "ha. ha ha. ha ha ha."
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a483500/sony-stock-jumps-9-percent-after-xbox-one-reveal.html
They say it's just a coincidence, but I say "ha. ha ha. ha ha ha."
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KoalaLover99 on 2013 May 29, 09:06:39
Post by: KoalaLover99 on 2013 May 29, 09:06:39
This pretty much covers everything about the xbox one:
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Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Spencer the Pegasus Guard on 2013 May 29, 12:07:29
Post by: Spencer the Pegasus Guard on 2013 May 29, 12:07:29
Quote from: AlDeezy on 2013 May 25, 23:04:25
Also, did you guys hear that Sony's stock jumped ~10% after the reveal?
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a483500/sony-stock-jumps-9-percent-after-xbox-one-reveal.html
They say it's just a coincidence, but I say "ha. ha ha. ha ha ha."
The Wii U went up in sales by a bunch after the conference too. Huh.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Teal Turken on 2013 May 29, 13:37:54
Post by: Teal Turken on 2013 May 29, 13:37:54
I hadn't thought about this initially but Microsoft is troubling game salestores as well.
Stores like GameStop will NOT be able to make trade ins with used games, which believe me do affect how well they do. GameStop does sell games and buy games daily, but when there's no new releases in a while they make money through trade ins.
Gamefly will not be able to rent out Xbox One titles because it's just not possible with the money grubbing code/activation thing on the games.
Also when the game stops being copied then once all the copies are used and if you didn't get a copy, too bad. You NEVER will.
I wouldn't be surprised if GameStop flat out avoided purchasing and selling Xbox One and it's games just because of how horrible it would be for business.
Stores like GameStop will NOT be able to make trade ins with used games, which believe me do affect how well they do. GameStop does sell games and buy games daily, but when there's no new releases in a while they make money through trade ins.
Spoiler: How that works • show
Gamefly will not be able to rent out Xbox One titles because it's just not possible with the money grubbing code/activation thing on the games.
Also when the game stops being copied then once all the copies are used and if you didn't get a copy, too bad. You NEVER will.
I wouldn't be surprised if GameStop flat out avoided purchasing and selling Xbox One and it's games just because of how horrible it would be for business.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 May 29, 15:39:13
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 May 29, 15:39:13
I'm gonna sum up what I think about Xbox one:
>Never actually fully showed their console.
>Wii-U not only fully shown , but released.
>kills backwards compatability.
>Wii-U not only has that it sells all the old games like super metroid for a low price on Eshop.
>Completely ignores gaming to make other apps like skype.
>Wii-U supports stuff like skype , watching TV , social networking like MIIVERSE , and still makes some gaming jems.
>Kills used games.
>Used games work perfectly on it , and are recommended , and supported.
>Current known library of upcoming , or currently available games suck.
>Wii-U has an awesome upcoming , and current library of games.
>Bigger than a dvd set.
>Wii-U is pretty slim.
>Costs an arm , and a leg.
>300$ which is less than the price of a none wii , or wii-u game.
WII-U is the best choice.
>Never actually fully showed their console.
>Wii-U not only fully shown , but released.
>kills backwards compatability.
>Wii-U not only has that it sells all the old games like super metroid for a low price on Eshop.
>Completely ignores gaming to make other apps like skype.
>Wii-U supports stuff like skype , watching TV , social networking like MIIVERSE , and still makes some gaming jems.
>Kills used games.
>Used games work perfectly on it , and are recommended , and supported.
>Current known library of upcoming , or currently available games suck.
>Wii-U has an awesome upcoming , and current library of games.
>Bigger than a dvd set.
>Wii-U is pretty slim.
>Costs an arm , and a leg.
>300$ which is less than the price of a none wii , or wii-u game.
WII-U is the best choice.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 May 31, 01:40:35
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 May 31, 01:40:35
The only bad thing about Nintendo right now is that they're gonna start hurting Let's Players who want to do Let's Play series of new Nintendo games. That, and we don't know if any other game companies *coughmicrosoftcough* will follow suit, thus effectively ruining Let's Plays.
As far as the Wii U goes, I'd like to try playing a game on it myself before buying one. I want to see how comfortable the controller is for myself.
PS4 seems pretty good, though I'm sad about backwards compatibility. I'm also kind of mad at Sony for having two types of PS3s - one that's backwards compatible for free, and one that's not. The one that you can play PS2 games for free on is the shiny one that has the touch sensor for the on/off switch. Sadly, I have the non-shiny one with an actual button for the power, but luckily, I still have my PS2. If/when my PS2 dies, I'll probably buy a shiny PS3.
Xbox One... Suuuuuck. :l Suck suck suuuuck. Terrible. We're not gonna buy it.
As far as the Wii U goes, I'd like to try playing a game on it myself before buying one. I want to see how comfortable the controller is for myself.
PS4 seems pretty good, though I'm sad about backwards compatibility. I'm also kind of mad at Sony for having two types of PS3s - one that's backwards compatible for free, and one that's not. The one that you can play PS2 games for free on is the shiny one that has the touch sensor for the on/off switch. Sadly, I have the non-shiny one with an actual button for the power, but luckily, I still have my PS2. If/when my PS2 dies, I'll probably buy a shiny PS3.
Xbox One... Suuuuuck. :l Suck suck suuuuck. Terrible. We're not gonna buy it.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Jenzy on 2013 May 31, 01:57:53
Post by: Jenzy on 2013 May 31, 01:57:53
Well, we'll just have to wait and see how well it goes...
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(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7490661376/hEEDE9194/)
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Spencer the Pegasus Guard on 2013 May 31, 08:14:30
Post by: Spencer the Pegasus Guard on 2013 May 31, 08:14:30
Quote from: Jenzy on 2013 May 31, 01:57:53
Well, we'll just have to wait and see how well it goes...
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7490661376/hEEDE9194/)
Seems to be the case doesn't it. E3 is in a little over a week so I have the following to look forward to:
1.) New games for my Wii U
2.) Getting to see the PS4. I propably won't buy it but I am interested
3.) The greatest comedy routine ever A.K.A. Microsoft's event.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: sorikuXIII on 2013 May 31, 13:09:19
Post by: sorikuXIII on 2013 May 31, 13:09:19
wow I read a ot of these posts and I'm gonna be honest. It kinda sickens me how easily most of you guys easily consider microsoft and xbox a joke. Nintendo and the Wii U aren't god's gift to gaming. I'm not saying there anything bad about the Wii U or Nintendo cause heck I've played my fair share of games from all the major companies so my opinion on any of the three big wigs of gaming is unbiased....
All I'm saying is Microsoft and Sony have been the major and most talked about companies smacking each other with white gloves. Nintendo has been rising from the ashes slowly and with the Xbox One reveal they're pretty much riding Sony's coat tails now and not in the bad way. I mean that they're finally getting the recognition they deserve after being put down for so long since they're consoles and handhelds are for casual gamers. I also believe that because of the Xbox One Sony and Nintendo pretty much have complete dominance at this point. The whole Xbox One killing used games is only speculation not a printed and laminated fact.
Yes I will agree that some of the feature that the Xbox One is going to be using and will have is and has convinced me to skip the new gen microsoft creation but it can still change in the long run. theres still E3 and then they still have time before the major release to fix and change anything that EVERYONE is bringing the hammer down on. I for one would buy a PS4 over an Xbox One and stick to my 360 but i still give kudos to microsoft for actually trying to keep themselves in the console race even though they pretty much too the long road into a lava pit this time around...
that's just my opinion though...
All I'm saying is Microsoft and Sony have been the major and most talked about companies smacking each other with white gloves. Nintendo has been rising from the ashes slowly and with the Xbox One reveal they're pretty much riding Sony's coat tails now and not in the bad way. I mean that they're finally getting the recognition they deserve after being put down for so long since they're consoles and handhelds are for casual gamers. I also believe that because of the Xbox One Sony and Nintendo pretty much have complete dominance at this point. The whole Xbox One killing used games is only speculation not a printed and laminated fact.
Yes I will agree that some of the feature that the Xbox One is going to be using and will have is and has convinced me to skip the new gen microsoft creation but it can still change in the long run. theres still E3 and then they still have time before the major release to fix and change anything that EVERYONE is bringing the hammer down on. I for one would buy a PS4 over an Xbox One and stick to my 360 but i still give kudos to microsoft for actually trying to keep themselves in the console race even though they pretty much too the long road into a lava pit this time around...
that's just my opinion though...
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 May 31, 20:31:23
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 May 31, 20:31:23
Quote from: Jenzy on 2013 May 31, 01:57:53
Well, we'll just have to wait and see how well it goes...
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7490661376/hEEDE9194/)
I can only hope :I
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 Jun 01, 02:40:38
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 Jun 01, 02:40:38
Okay guess what.
The Wii-U which is basically 3 times better than the Xbox one costs 300$. Xbox one is around 900$. So on the wii-u you have an efficient app , social networking system , and you can also watch TV with the TVii thing while still having amazing hardware , and games. Xbox one focuses on TV , and has a lousy TV system. Skype is apparently a huge step for it. It's known to have less power than the Wii-U. So we've established the Wii-U is three times better , but the Xbox costs 3 times more?
Nintendo army now is our time to strike! Let us use the master sword to stab the final blow in this poor new competition!
The Wii-U which is basically 3 times better than the Xbox one costs 300$. Xbox one is around 900$. So on the wii-u you have an efficient app , social networking system , and you can also watch TV with the TVii thing while still having amazing hardware , and games. Xbox one focuses on TV , and has a lousy TV system. Skype is apparently a huge step for it. It's known to have less power than the Wii-U. So we've established the Wii-U is three times better , but the Xbox costs 3 times more?
Nintendo army now is our time to strike! Let us use the master sword to stab the final blow in this poor new competition!
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: sorikuXIII on 2013 Jun 01, 04:12:01
Post by: sorikuXIII on 2013 Jun 01, 04:12:01
Again that's just speculation cause it was leaked on Amazon. It said the same thing for the PS4 but that nowhere near the truth. You can't just believe everything thats initially told cause it can change in the long run. That's why this stupid "console war" is still going on. Everyone should be forced to own at least one of each console or handheld then base their opinions off that. Not what the see and hear. That's stupid and makes every opinion biased thus causing the individual to praise what they use like an almighty being when the others are just as good if not better. In this thread its no different. everyone praising the Wii U and chewing out the Xbox One. I thought the title was "Xbox One discussion topic" not roast.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 01, 04:56:17
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 01, 04:56:17
That price is a placeholder. Wii u games were initially listed as $99, but they are the standard $60, or less. Honestly, if they did launch it at $900 it would not be successful. Period. For that much money you could build an equivalent or stronger PC than next gen consoles, especially if its true that battlefield 4 will be 720p at 60fps. Then down the road you can get better cooling and overclock to extremely increase performance.
I doubt M$ donated their brains to science while working on the console. On the hardware front, they probably did a great job, and kinect 2.0 is likely to be a good step up from 1.0. Mind you, I don't think kinect itself is very good by iteslf for motion controls. Other features added are the problem. Now even with kinect being paired with every console, I'm fairly certain devs won't make it integral to the experience of EVERY game.
You can go stab xbox with the master sword. I'm just gonna boycott the xbox brand, and be over here playing on my PC until I get a job so I can get a wii u.
I doubt M$ donated their brains to science while working on the console. On the hardware front, they probably did a great job, and kinect 2.0 is likely to be a good step up from 1.0. Mind you, I don't think kinect itself is very good by iteslf for motion controls. Other features added are the problem. Now even with kinect being paired with every console, I'm fairly certain devs won't make it integral to the experience of EVERY game.
You can go stab xbox with the master sword. I'm just gonna boycott the xbox brand, and be over here playing on my PC until I get a job so I can get a wii u.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Spencer the Pegasus Guard on 2013 Jun 01, 11:50:32
Post by: Spencer the Pegasus Guard on 2013 Jun 01, 11:50:32
Playstation 4 will propably come in first and despite being a Nintendo guy I have no problem with that, Wii U will come up after E3 most likely, and X-box one will....be there.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 01, 22:24:03
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 01, 22:24:03
I don't entirely care how Microsoft plans to go about limiting the usage of used games. There's still the fact that they're trying to limit the usage of used games. :\
I've already said that I'm also not a fan of voice controlled technology. It's overrated. It's extremely... overrated. All it takes is for me to be in the middle of a boss fight and my friend to walk in and issue some command (maybe "Xbox, go home!") to screw things up for me.
I've already said that I'm also not a fan of voice controlled technology. It's overrated. It's extremely... overrated. All it takes is for me to be in the middle of a boss fight and my friend to walk in and issue some command (maybe "Xbox, go home!") to screw things up for me.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 02, 04:22:12
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 02, 04:22:12
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 01, 22:24:03
I don't entirely care how Microsoft plans to go about limiting the usage of used games. There's still the fact that they're trying to limit the usage of used games. :\
I've already said that I'm also not a fan of voice controlled technology. It's overrated. It's extremely... overrated. All it takes is for me to be in the middle of a boss fight and my friend to walk in and issue some command (maybe "Xbox, go home!") to screw things up for me.
Yeah, that could be a huge problem for those who have slightly trollish friends. Even some people watching the reveal on their xbox had issues with their kinect forcing them to the dashboard during the presentation.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 03, 04:02:25
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 03, 04:02:25
I couldn't think that i never see the building of the WORST gaming plataform EVER, but here is it O:
http://www.mondoxbox.com/en/news/38804/microsoft-xbox-one-will-region-lock.html
Microsoft really deserve recognition, it takes a lot of bravery to present this thing as a new generation videogame plataform :l
http://www.mondoxbox.com/en/news/38804/microsoft-xbox-one-will-region-lock.html
Microsoft really deserve recognition, it takes a lot of bravery to present this thing as a new generation videogame plataform :l
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Book Smarts on 2013 Jun 03, 18:42:36
Post by: Book Smarts on 2013 Jun 03, 18:42:36
Region lock is such a silly restriction placed on consoles. Why stop consumers from spending money that would still reach the video game developers?
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 04, 02:52:50
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 04, 02:52:50
Quote from: Book Smarts on 2013 Jun 03, 18:42:36
Region lock is such a silly restriction placed on consoles. Why stop consumers from spending money that would still reach the video game developers?
Is exactly as forbiding players from play 2nd hand games without paying a fee to install them in the console, makes no sense, why would anyone choose that stupid restriction console instead of a PC or a PS4? (which also has better hardware specs).
This console is just sooooo ridiculous that i don't know how Microsoft is finding the valor to continue with it :l
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 04, 05:06:17
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 04, 05:06:17
Quote from: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 04, 02:52:50Quote from: Book Smarts on 2013 Jun 03, 18:42:36
Region lock is such a silly restriction placed on consoles. Why stop consumers from spending money that would still reach the video game developers?
Is exactly as forbiding players from play 2nd hand games without paying a fee to install them in the console, makes no sense, why would anyone choose that stupid restriction console instead of a PC or a PS4? (which also has better hardware specs).
This console is just sooooo ridiculous that i don't know how Microsoft is finding the valor to continue with it :l
I don't understand the people who're wholeheartedly backing Microsoft and actually saying that they're going to buy the Xbox One. One of my friends is one of those people. If the Xbox One isn't changed by the time it's released, I half-expect to end up seeing my friend post on Facebook complaining about his Xbox One, especially if he's only buying it out of expecting an Xbox One exclusive Halo game and they don't make one.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 04, 05:39:40
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 04, 05:39:40
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 04, 05:06:17
I don't understand the people who're wholeheartedly backing Microsoft and actually saying that they're going to buy the Xbox One. One of my friends is one of those people. If the Xbox One isn't changed by the time it's released, I half-expect to end up seeing my friend post on Facebook complaining about his Xbox One, especially if he's only buying it out of expecting an Xbox One exclusive Halo game and they don't make one.
Microsoft fanatics has been there from the begining of time, so, it's not surprising to see that there are still some loyal fans willing to buy this... thing :l
I think they already announced around 15 exclusives for this new console, i think 7 of them were continues for existing sagas as "Halo" and "Gears of wars", but... it's just my personal opinion, i think that Halo 3 was a perfect ending for the saga, and 4 is just too lame, i'll never consider that new saga as part of the cannonic Halo, so, i think Halo is not worth enough at this moment to make someone buy this console, but there are ever fanatics as i said before :c
At this moment, it's just a matter of time to see how long take this console to sink if they don't do anything about those fees and limitations in the plataform, i must say that it will make me happy if they just lose lots of money with this abomination and insult to the gamer community intelligence :nod:
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 04, 05:45:53
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 04, 05:45:53
Come to think of it, I don't know if he owns anything other than Xbox. o_o So he might be one of those diehard Microsoft fans.
The only Halo stuff I heard about for Xbox One was the Halo live-action TV series they're apparently making.
The only Halo stuff I heard about for Xbox One was the Halo live-action TV series they're apparently making.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 04, 06:03:36
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 04, 06:03:36
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 04, 05:45:53
Come to think of it, I don't know if he owns anything other than Xbox. o_o So he might be one of those diehard Microsoft fans.
The only Halo stuff I heard about for Xbox One was the Halo live-action TV series they're apparently making.
Yeah, i must admit that all of that live-action sounds cool, and there is even Mr. Spielberg as executive producer, so it all is really nice but, a live action series is not going to make me spend about 400 bucks or whatever this thing cost just to have a console that limits me in so many ways at the hour to enjoy playing games with my friends :I
I prefer "Destiny", and i think it was PS4 announced, not sure if it's going to come out to Xbox one, but i heard in an interview that PS4 has a better hardware to reproduce this game, so i'm fine with it ^-^
Who knows?, maybe in this E3 they show some incredibly legendary and full of epicness titles for Xbox one, and we all get zombizied and willing to buy this console at any cost and pay all that fees and stuff, but... i think that's pretty unlikely lol
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 05, 09:33:03
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 05, 09:33:03
I wonder what game from Rare is gonna be at E3...
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 05, 10:11:33
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 05, 10:11:33
Looks like the Rare game is Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty land.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Teal Turken on 2013 Jun 05, 11:30:50
Post by: Teal Turken on 2013 Jun 05, 11:30:50
Quote from: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 05, 10:11:33
Looks like the Rare game is Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty land.
My 3 initial thoughts of what it is by the title alone are:
1. Roller Coaster Tycoon ripoff
2. Banjo platformer to earn respect back after Nuts and Bolts. (why was that game so hated? I thought it was good...)
3. Banjo party minigames.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 05, 12:01:36
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 05, 12:01:36
Quote from: Teal Turken on 2013 Jun 05, 11:30:50Quote from: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 05, 10:11:33
Looks like the Rare game is Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty land.
My 3 initial thoughts of what it is by the title alone are:
1. Roller Coaster Tycoon ripoff
2. Banjo platformer to earn respect back after Nuts and Bolts. (why was that game so hated? I thought it was good...)
3. Banjo party minigames.
Whatever it is, is not a Conker sequel :c
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 05, 13:41:04
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 05, 13:41:04
Quote from: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 05, 12:01:36Quote from: Teal Turken on 2013 Jun 05, 11:30:50Quote from: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 05, 10:11:33
Looks like the Rare game is Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty land.
My 3 initial thoughts of what it is by the title alone are:
1. Roller Coaster Tycoon ripoff
2. Banjo platformer to earn respect back after Nuts and Bolts. (why was that game so hated? I thought it was good...)
3. Banjo party minigames.
Whatever it is, is not a Conker sequel :c
If its real, I'm honestly not expecting it to be good. N&B was a great game in itself, but was terrible for a BK game. After doing a bit of looking around I've come to agree with some others, it sounds like it might be some kind of kinect party game... :(
I'd love to see conker return as well. I don't think it could be proper though. M$ likes focing Rare's hand wherever they please, and I think a large portion of those who worked on BK and conker left rare a while ago... Chris seavor especially, since he co-wrote conker, was the project lead, and is the voice of conker as well.
Though if they could revive either successfully, I'd have a bit of faith in M$. It's a wild card with ridiculously low odds of success, I'd say.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 Jun 05, 17:52:49
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 Jun 05, 17:52:49
Quote from: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 05, 13:41:04Quote from: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 05, 12:01:36Quote from: Teal Turken on 2013 Jun 05, 11:30:50Quote from: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 05, 10:11:33
Looks like the Rare game is Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty land.
My 3 initial thoughts of what it is by the title alone are:
1. Roller Coaster Tycoon ripoff
2. Banjo platformer to earn respect back after Nuts and Bolts. (why was that game so hated? I thought it was good...)
3. Banjo party minigames.
Whatever it is, is not a Conker sequel :c
If its real, I'm honestly not expecting it to be good. N&B was a great game in itself, but was terrible for a BK game. After doing a bit of looking around I've come to agree with some others, it sounds like it might be some kind of kinect party game... :(
I'd love to see conker return as well. I don't think it could be proper though. M$ likes focing Rare's hand wherever they please, and I think a large portion of those who worked on BK and conker left rare a while ago... Chris seavor especially, since he co-wrote conker, was the project lead, and is the voice of conker as well.
Though if they could revive either successfully, I'd have a bit of faith in M$. It's a wild card with ridiculously low odds of success, I'd say.
I'm pretty certain that the entirety of the team that worked at Rare during it's peak in the N64 days is gone. Even if there were a new Banjo-Kazooie or Conker game in the works, it would be done by a new development team.
Not to say I don't trust a new team in making a decent game, it's just very unlikely that the charm of the old games could be re-produced.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Book Smarts on 2013 Jun 05, 21:51:42
Post by: Book Smarts on 2013 Jun 05, 21:51:42
Spoiler: Nuts and Bolts Spoiler • show
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 05, 22:05:41
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 05, 22:05:41
I played and beaten BK Nuts and Bolts but when in the game did that say that? I can't remember.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 05, 23:40:06
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 05, 23:40:06
I wonder how they'll fair at e3. Will they blunder another conference, or will it bring praise in droves. I really just hope they clear up all this incomplete info. Only one more week.
Quote from: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 05, 22:05:41
I played and beaten BK Nuts and Bolts but when in the game did that say that? I can't remember.
Spoiler: Here • show
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 07, 07:10:06
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 07, 07:10:06
More bad news ^-^
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 07, 08:32:33
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 07, 08:32:33
Angry Joe!
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 07, 08:42:42
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 07, 08:42:42
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: super_chris85 on 2013 Jun 07, 09:56:44
Post by: super_chris85 on 2013 Jun 07, 09:56:44
I'm watching that on my vita right...I Can't believe that friends who come to my house have full access to my game library : D
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Cotton Ball on 2013 Jun 07, 12:32:54
Post by: Cotton Ball on 2013 Jun 07, 12:32:54
Im sticking to my Xbox360 with kinect. Besides I may get Minecraft Xbox Edition
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 07, 13:15:43
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 07, 13:15:43
Quote from: super_chris85 on 2013 Jun 07, 09:56:44
I'm watching that on my vita right...I Can't believe that friends who come to my house have full access to my game library : D
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/27560497.jpg)
XD
Seriuosly, most failed video game plataform EVER! ^-^
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Spencer the Pegasus Guard on 2013 Jun 07, 14:18:48
Post by: Spencer the Pegasus Guard on 2013 Jun 07, 14:18:48
Quote from: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 07, 08:42:42Quote from: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 07, 08:32:33
Angry Joe!
Angry Joe evolved to Raging Joe XD
Ragin Joe evolved into Viewtiful Joe.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Azure on 2013 Jun 07, 14:23:38
Post by: Azure on 2013 Jun 07, 14:23:38
The world's most advanced VCR player.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 08, 04:08:13
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 08, 04:08:13
http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intelligence/2013/06/07/microsofts-xbox-one-how-things-have-changed/
The main points:
Why do I have to constantly check in once a day? Really. Do they want to access info from my Xbox to see what all I've been using it for and playing on it? I mean, really.
Well, you can sell them, but it's just a whole lot harder, since people apparently want to dictate under what conditions you can sell it. Lame.
More restrictions making things difficult. Wow. Great. Why?
And finally:
Quick, everyone tell them how bad these ideas and restrictions are. :\
The main points:
Quote- Games will not work, full stop, if the console has not connected to the internet in the last 24 hours.
"With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console, or one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library. Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies."
So bad luck if your internet gets cut - after a day, you can't even entertain yourself with your Xbox games.
Why do I have to constantly check in once a day? Really. Do they want to access info from my Xbox to see what all I've been using it for and playing on it? I mean, really.
Quote- You can't sell your second-hand games to any store that might want to buy them from you:
"Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games."
Not only will games only be able to be sold to "participating retailers" -- those retailers will only be able to buy games if the publisher has "enabled" them to be bought and sold second hand. And as Microsoft says, those publishers "may set up business terms or transfer fees with retailers" that will regulate the conditions of such sales on a game-by-game basis.
Well, you can sell them, but it's just a whole lot harder, since people apparently want to dictate under what conditions you can sell it. Lame.
Quote- You can't just pass games around among your friends:
"Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once."
Again, game discs can't just be handed around -- first the publisher needs to "enable" the game to be given to a friend. And even then it can only change hands once. "Loaning or renting games won't be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners," Microsoft says.
More restrictions making things difficult. Wow. Great. Why?
And finally:
QuoteAll these terms are a big change from what has come before, and Microsoft seems to be aware that consumers might have something to say about the new deal:
"As we move into this new generation of games and entertainment, from time to time, Microsoft may change its policies, terms, products and services to reflect modifications and improvements to our services, feedback from customers and our business partners or changes in our business priorities and business models or for other reasons. We may also cease to offer certain services or products for similar reasons.
In the months ahead, we will continue to listen to your feedback as we meet with our partners in the ecosystem to bring additional detail about our policies."
Quick, everyone tell them how bad these ideas and restrictions are. :\
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 08, 06:38:18
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 08, 06:38:18
I suggest to go to the E3 microsoft convention, AND BOYCOTT THE EVENT!! ovO
And then go to eat some cupcakes ^-^
And then go to eat some cupcakes ^-^
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 Jun 08, 12:22:27
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 Jun 08, 12:22:27
Apparently Microsoft cancelled their post-E3 conference where they would address concerns the general public had with the console.
At his point, I'm placing bets on how many miles under the earth Microsoft continues dig its own grave.
I'd say 5-6.
At his point, I'm placing bets on how many miles under the earth Microsoft continues dig its own grave.
I'd say 5-6.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Little Judas on 2013 Jun 10, 12:24:30
Post by: Little Judas on 2013 Jun 10, 12:24:30
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7548445184/h78AE0349/)
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KoalaLover99 on 2013 Jun 10, 12:55:06
Post by: KoalaLover99 on 2013 Jun 10, 12:55:06
Quote from: Sea Foam on 2013 Jun 08, 12:22:27
Apparently Microsoft cancelled their post-E3 conference where they would address concerns the general public had with the console.
At his point, I'm placing bets on how many miles under the earth Microsoft continues dig its own grave.
I'd say 5-6.
I'll bet you a muffin for 10 at E3
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 10, 13:07:22
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 10, 13:07:22
Killer instinct for Xbox One.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 10, 15:18:23
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 10, 15:18:23
Apparently, Angry Joe was in the show, read this XD
"So these camera ppl asked me to give my opinion on the conference. I did. Trust me they arent going to use it.
They looked shocked. Even asked me if I was getting an xbox one at the end w/ a huge smile completely ignoring all the DRM talk I said. LoL.
I wish someone would have recorded it. Literally right after my take they started packing the camera up. They were done. #Destroyed"
I don't get why Microsoft isn't taking more feedback from the actual customers, they should be improving the console based in our opinions, not just keeping the bad work on it and ignoring all of our opinions, after all, we are the ones who should buy this console, how they expect us to buy it, if this is so stupid and don't do a single thing to change it? o.O
I can see the selling chief ot Microsoft some months later with those horrible numbers in sales and telling "I just don't know what went wrong" :o
"So these camera ppl asked me to give my opinion on the conference. I did. Trust me they arent going to use it.
They looked shocked. Even asked me if I was getting an xbox one at the end w/ a huge smile completely ignoring all the DRM talk I said. LoL.
I wish someone would have recorded it. Literally right after my take they started packing the camera up. They were done. #Destroyed"
I don't get why Microsoft isn't taking more feedback from the actual customers, they should be improving the console based in our opinions, not just keeping the bad work on it and ignoring all of our opinions, after all, we are the ones who should buy this console, how they expect us to buy it, if this is so stupid and don't do a single thing to change it? o.O
I can see the selling chief ot Microsoft some months later with those horrible numbers in sales and telling "I just don't know what went wrong" :o
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KoalaLover99 on 2013 Jun 10, 15:51:32
Post by: KoalaLover99 on 2013 Jun 10, 15:51:32
Why did no-one record it? My god that would've been absolutely hilarious lol
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 10, 16:19:56
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 10, 16:19:56
I swear, if my friend still buys an Xbox One, I'm gonna facepalm so hard that I'll knock myself out.
I hope he doesn't expect me not to say "I told you so" when he starts complaining about the console on Facebook.
I hope he doesn't expect me not to say "I told you so" when he starts complaining about the console on Facebook.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 10, 18:08:35
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 10, 18:08:35
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 10, 16:19:56
I swear, if my friend still buys an Xbox One, I'm gonna facepalm so hard that I'll knock myself out.
I hope he doesn't expect me not to say "I told you so" when he starts complaining about the console on Facebook.
What a beautiful line :3
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRxSrHVUxaY6H-oKZSEbw6mk8n9baUsW8CoBqARhniHj1r8d7IG)
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 11, 06:11:18
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 11, 06:11:18
Anyone else get an email from Xbox with the subject line of (Your Xbox account name) "thank you for being part of the Xbox community"?
1. I've been with you for a decade? I've been with you since I was 10?! :I Well, this is certainly news to me.
2. "designed to be the most advanced gaming console ever made" Then what's all this about TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, and more TV?
3. "the best console we've ever made" ....
best
console
we've ever
made
(http://denver.mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/rsz/mlfw8023_small.jpg)
That's debatable.
Quote from: The emailOver the past decade, you have been with us as we pushed the boundaries of innovation. Xbox One represents not only the arrival of a new generation of games and entertainment, but also the next chapter of our journey together.
Xbox One was designed to be the most advanced gaming console ever made. From its revolutionary new multiplayer matchmaking system to its state-of-the-art AI that adapts to the way you play. From its stunning cinematic realism to new ways to share experiences with friends. Not to mention the enhancements to Xbox Live, the most exciting social gaming network in the world.
We would like to personally invite you to be a part of this new generation of games and entertainment from Day One. Reserve your Day One Edition today and in addition to the best console we've ever made, you'll also receive a commemorative controller and an exclusive achievement.*
Thank you for being part of the Xbox community. We look forward to our journey ahead.
1. I've been with you for a decade? I've been with you since I was 10?! :I Well, this is certainly news to me.
2. "designed to be the most advanced gaming console ever made" Then what's all this about TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, and more TV?
3. "the best console we've ever made" ....
best
console
we've ever
made
(http://denver.mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/rsz/mlfw8023_small.jpg)
That's debatable.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 11, 07:05:50
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 11, 07:05:50
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 11, 06:11:18
3. "the best console we've ever made" ....
(http://mlkshk.com/r/1WLU)
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Rissian on 2013 Jun 13, 21:07:47
Post by: Rissian on 2013 Jun 13, 21:07:47
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 11, 06:11:18
"best
console
we've ever
made"
(http://denver.mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/rsz/mlfw8023_small.jpg)
That's debatable.
Spoiler: show
Very debatable. ovO
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Spencer the Pegasus Guard on 2013 Jun 14, 11:54:55
Post by: Spencer the Pegasus Guard on 2013 Jun 14, 11:54:55
I want to meet a sane person who will buy this as much as I want to meet a person that doesn't know who Luke Skywalker's father is.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KoalaLover99 on 2013 Jun 14, 11:59:46
Post by: KoalaLover99 on 2013 Jun 14, 11:59:46
Reggie had this to say, "The best way for console makers to deal with the used games market is to ensure their games are so good that people don't want to trade them in." So that's another slap at Microsoft lol
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 Jun 14, 15:16:45
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 Jun 14, 15:16:45
Quote from: KoalaLover99 on 2013 Jun 14, 11:59:46
Reggie had this to say, "The best way for console makers to deal with the used games market is to ensure their games are so good that people don't want to trade them in." So that's another slap at Microsoft lol
Spoiler: show
But in seriousness, has Microsoft addressed any of this hillarious negativity yet?
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 14, 20:36:49
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 14, 20:36:49
Quote from: Sea Foam on 2013 Jun 14, 15:16:45
But in seriousness, has Microsoft addressed any of this hillarious negativity yet?
Kind of. We now know for certain M$ doesn't want "peasants" to own an xbox one; If you don't have access to the internet, get an xbox 360! They're really doing a terrible job of marketing it to those who aren't fanatical fanboys.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 14, 21:06:41
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 14, 21:06:41
Quote from: Sea Foam on 2013 Jun 14, 15:16:45Quote from: KoalaLover99 on 2013 Jun 14, 11:59:46
Reggie had this to say, "The best way for console makers to deal with the used games market is to ensure their games are so good that people don't want to trade them in." So that's another slap at Microsoft lolSpoiler: show
But in seriousness, has Microsoft addressed any of this hillarious negativity yet?
I love "That 70's Show". :D
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 14, 21:11:05
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 14, 21:11:05
This is incredible :/
http://www.ibtimes.com/xbox-one-users-must-waive-right-class-action-suits-against-microsoft-experts-weigh-1306797
PD: Also:
http://www.neowin.net/news/anonymous-xbox-engineer-explains-drm-and-microsofts-xbox-one-intentions
And then:
http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/15439/article/supposed-microsoft-engineer-speaks-out-on-xbox-one-drm-it-s-all-fake/
http://www.ibtimes.com/xbox-one-users-must-waive-right-class-action-suits-against-microsoft-experts-weigh-1306797
PD: Also:
http://www.neowin.net/news/anonymous-xbox-engineer-explains-drm-and-microsofts-xbox-one-intentions
And then:
http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/15439/article/supposed-microsoft-engineer-speaks-out-on-xbox-one-drm-it-s-all-fake/
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 15, 11:05:28
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 15, 11:05:28
Even while reading the pastebin of the original post, I started thinking "Wouldn't it be better to say this in an official kind of broadcast from the company itself, not on 4Chan?" And the further I read, the more unprofessional it seemed.
Yep. Definitely fake.
Yep. Definitely fake.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Spencer the Pegasus Guard on 2013 Jun 15, 12:04:51
Post by: Spencer the Pegasus Guard on 2013 Jun 15, 12:04:51
Alright everybody, place your bets on what Microsoft's next big screw up is going to be.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 15, 21:40:26
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 15, 21:40:26
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 16, 01:35:24
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 16, 01:35:24
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 15, 11:05:28
Even while reading the pastebin of the original post, I started thinking "Wouldn't it be better to say this in an official kind of broadcast from the company itself, not on 4Chan?" And the further I read, the more unprofessional it seemed.
Yep. Definitely fake.
It seems fake, but in a way, it does make sense... I think M$ is being just dumb with all we have seen from their first conference and from E3. It's impossible for them to be just ignoring all the rant about their console and it's features. I never liked M$, but it was aways good at convincing people to buy their stuff. But this past days they have been just looking like fools, and Sony is taking all the advantage it can from this situation. Even if I will probably be getting a PS4 at the end, I don't think M$ will let things go as it is...
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 16, 03:48:58
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 16, 03:48:58
Quote from: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 16, 01:35:24Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 15, 11:05:28
Even while reading the pastebin of the original post, I started thinking "Wouldn't it be better to say this in an official kind of broadcast from the company itself, not on 4Chan?" And the further I read, the more unprofessional it seemed.
Yep. Definitely fake.
It seems fake, but in a way, it does make sense... I think M$ is being just dumb with all we have seen from their first conference and from E3. It's impossible for them to be just ignoring all the rant about their console and it's features. I never liked M$, but it was aways good at convincing people to buy their stuff. But this past days they have been just looking like fools, and Sony is taking all the advantage it can from this situation. Even if I will probably be getting a PS4 at the end, I don't think M$ will let things go as it is...
It does kind of make sense, but there's still the counter-argument that people can download games on the PS3 and Wii and don't need to connect to the internet to check in every 24 hours.
And unless I see someone from Microsoft really say this kind of stuff and explain this stuff, I won't believe it. As it stands right now, it's just a fan trying to justify the Xbox One with their own speculation.
I wonder what happened to Microsoft for them to make things like Windows 8 and Xbox One, though. Did they bring on some new people who came up with this stuff? Did they lose some people who prevented bad ideas? What happened?
Honestly, if they snap out of this and stop making such bad/weird decisions, I'll likely resume buying their products. But for now, I won't stand for that crud.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Little Judas on 2013 Jun 16, 04:36:45
Post by: Little Judas on 2013 Jun 16, 04:36:45
I found a positive thing about XBox One!!!
Link to entire article.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/06/06/xbox-one-game-sharing-used-game-policy-detailed.aspx
Quote from: GameinformerIn addition, Microsoft has revealed that up to ten players in your "family" can have access to your shared library of games from any console, and you'll be able to access your full library of games and play them from any connected Xbox One.
Link to entire article.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/06/06/xbox-one-game-sharing-used-game-policy-detailed.aspx
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 Jun 16, 06:58:31
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 Jun 16, 06:58:31
Quote from: Little Judas on 2013 Jun 16, 04:36:45Not positive.
I found a positive thing about XBox One!!!Quote from: GameinformerIn addition, Microsoft has revealed that up to ten players in your "family" can have access to your shared library of games from any console, and you'll be able to access your full library of games and play them from any connected Xbox One.
Link to entire article.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/06/06/xbox-one-game-sharing-used-game-policy-detailed.aspx
So what if ten people of your family could play?It's very rare for TWO family members to play video games. Also even if someone has a family of ten gamers it's still not a positive. Just because it was something worse , and they turned it less so doesn't make it good. Before we knew that we couldn't lend games , but now we know we can only lend to 10 people on the same console. So just because it's a tiny , and unnoticable slightly remove of a negative does not make it a positive.
Never in my life will I consider this console. The wii-U is superior anyway.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 16, 07:36:32
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 16, 07:36:32
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2013 Jun 16, 06:58:31Quote from: Little Judas on 2013 Jun 16, 04:36:45Not positive.
I found a positive thing about XBox One!!!Quote from: GameinformerIn addition, Microsoft has revealed that up to ten players in your "family" can have access to your shared library of games from any console, and you'll be able to access your full library of games and play them from any connected Xbox One.
Link to entire article.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/06/06/xbox-one-game-sharing-used-game-policy-detailed.aspx
So what if ten people of your family could play?It's very rare for TWO family members to play video games. Also even if someone has a family of ten gamers it's still not a positive. Just because it was something worse , and they turned it less so doesn't make it good. Before we knew that we couldn't lend games , but now we know we can only lend to 10 people on the same console. So just because it's a tiny , and unnoticable slightly remove of a negative does not make it a positive.
Never in my life will I consider this console. The wii-U is superior anyway.
It allows you to share you're library with 9 others(or is the 10 not including you?) so long as they are in your "family". So you can also share all your games with your closest friends if only you or a single sibling play games, though restricting some simultaneous play. I think its two can play the same single player game, but I think multiplayer is completely denied simul-play aside from splitscreen.
So 10 people have access a game library where each game was payed for once, instead of 10 times. Its actually pretty good, but its certainly not enticing me to buy.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Little Judas on 2013 Jun 16, 08:34:24
Post by: Little Judas on 2013 Jun 16, 08:34:24
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2013 Jun 16, 06:58:31Quote from: Little Judas on 2013 Jun 16, 04:36:45Not positive.
I found a positive thing about XBox One!!!Quote from: GameinformerIn addition, Microsoft has revealed that up to ten players in your "family" can have access to your shared library of games from any console, and you'll be able to access your full library of games and play them from any connected Xbox One.
Link to entire article.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/06/06/xbox-one-game-sharing-used-game-policy-detailed.aspx
So what if ten people of your family could play?It's very rare for TWO family members to play video games. Also even if someone has a family of ten gamers it's still not a positive. Just because it was something worse , and they turned it less so doesn't make it good. Before we knew that we couldn't lend games , but now we know we can only lend to 10 people on the same console. So just because it's a tiny , and unnoticable slightly remove of a negative does not make it a positive.
Never in my life will I consider this console. The wii-U is superior anyway.
It's like a small island in the sea of bad features, might be enough to save the crew of the sinking USS XBox 1.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 16, 11:29:06
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 16, 11:29:06
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2013 Jun 16, 06:58:31Quote from: Little Judas on 2013 Jun 16, 04:36:45Not positive.
I found a positive thing about XBox One!!!Quote from: GameinformerIn addition, Microsoft has revealed that up to ten players in your "family" can have access to your shared library of games from any console, and you'll be able to access your full library of games and play them from any connected Xbox One.
Link to entire article.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/06/06/xbox-one-game-sharing-used-game-policy-detailed.aspx
So what if ten people of your family could play?It's very rare for TWO family members to play video games. Also even if someone has a family of ten gamers it's still not a positive. Just because it was something worse , and they turned it less so doesn't make it good. Before we knew that we couldn't lend games , but now we know we can only lend to 10 people on the same console. So just because it's a tiny , and unnoticable slightly remove of a negative does not make it a positive.
Never in my life will I consider this console. The wii-U is superior anyway.
I wanna know if that selection of people is permanent. Like, if I fill my list with people, have a fight with someone, and decide I don't wanna share my games with that person anymore, will I be able to remove them from my list and replace them with someone else? (That's saying if I bought an Xbox One, which I likely won't.)
It also confuses me that Microsoft is doing this. Are they starting to give in, trying to get people to come back and consider the Xbox One? Letting 10 people play your games freely kind of defeats the purpose of Microsoft's used games hate. If those 10 people can play my copy of Halo 5, I don't think they're gonna buy Halo 5 for themselves... unless there are limitations they haven't told us about yet.
Also, as far as privacy settings go, there are people who are not convinced about the Kinect privacy settings or anything else Microsoft is saying about the Xbox One Kinect. Among those people who aren't convinced are people who actually own a Kinect themselves. Not only does the Kinect notice everyone, regardless of whether they're playing or not, it also picks up on everyone's voices, regardless of whether or not they're in its view. My mom's friend has had trouble with her daughter talking to her while she uses it and the Kinect picking up on her daughter's voice and responding to it.
So, just think, the Xbox One's Kinect will always be on. It'll always be watching and listening. It will always see you, and it will always listen to what anyone within its "hearing" range says.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Little Judas on 2013 Jun 16, 11:53:29
Post by: Little Judas on 2013 Jun 16, 11:53:29
NSA proud sponsor of XBox One
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 16, 11:56:36
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 16, 11:56:36
Wow, it's starting to look like a big conspiracy where M$ is trying to conquer the world. What I seriously wouldn't doubt if it were true.
About the 10 family members thing, It's explained in Angry Joe's interview. From what I undertood, it seems up to ten perfils registered in that console can play all the games in the console's library. It doesn't extend to other consoles. To play in other console, you need to login in that console and verify every one or two hours.
About the 10 family members thing, It's explained in Angry Joe's interview. From what I undertood, it seems up to ten perfils registered in that console can play all the games in the console's library. It doesn't extend to other consoles. To play in other console, you need to login in that console and verify every one or two hours.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 16, 12:15:36
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 16, 12:15:36
Quote from: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 16, 11:56:36
Wow, it's starting to look like a big conspiracy where M$ is trying to conquer the world. What I seriously wouldn't doubt if it were true.
About the 10 family members thing, It's explained in Angry Joe's interview. From what I undertood, it seems up to ten perfils registered in that console can play all the games in the console's library. It doesn't extend to other consoles. To play in other console, you need to login in that console and verify every one or two hours.
Ahhh. So that's that "If you're using another console, you have to check in every hour" I heard about. That's annoying. :\
And I'm still not happy about the regulations on used games. Seriously, companies should not get to decide what I can do with my copy of a game. I bought it, and therefore, I now own it. It's mine to do with what I want (except make copies of it because that's illegal).
There's also the fact that Microsoft has apparently not said anything about what the used game regulations are gonna be on first party games.
Post Merge
I just realized.
People can't just go rogue and sell their games on eBay or anything like that because the games won't work on other people's Xbox One.
I'd rather sell my games on eBay than at GameStop, personally, because I'm pretty sure I'd get more money out of it from eBay. All you have to do is sell it for more than GameStop would give you, but for less than GameStop would sell it for.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 16, 13:47:07
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 16, 13:47:07
From Joe's interview, also, it is said that a game can be reselled/given to another person once. But the person who got it that way won't be able to give away/resell again.
What it looks like from that interview and the annonymous speculations, they are trying to build a structure similar to Steam's, with some other features. But if we are going to see something like the Steam's sales, and if it's going to be as successful, that's another story...
What it looks like from that interview and the annonymous speculations, they are trying to build a structure similar to Steam's, with some other features. But if we are going to see something like the Steam's sales, and if it's going to be as successful, that's another story...
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 Jun 16, 15:23:18
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 Jun 16, 15:23:18
Quote from: Little Judas on 2013 Jun 16, 04:36:45
I found a positive thing about XBox One!!!Quote from: GameinformerIn addition, Microsoft has revealed that up to ten players in your "family" can have access to your shared library of games from any console, and you'll be able to access your full library of games and play them from any connected Xbox One.
Link to entire article.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/06/06/xbox-one-game-sharing-used-game-policy-detailed.aspx
So, effectively, I can choose up to 10 different people who can play the games I bought on my (hypothetical) Xbox one.
I have six consoles. Anyone and any number of people in the world can come to my house and play these consoles without limit of a third party.
I hope I'm missing something with this one, because it seems like yet another negative worded to sound like a positive.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 16, 18:36:14
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 16, 18:36:14
Quote from: Sea Foam on 2013 Jun 16, 15:23:18
So, effectively, I can choose up to 10 different people who can play the games I bought on my (hypothetical) Xbox one.
I have six consoles. Anyone and any number of people in the world can come to my house and play these consoles without limit of a third party.
I hope I'm missing something with this one, because it seems like yet another negative worded to sound like a positive.
You are not missing a single thing. Microsoft is clearly calling you, and me, and all the gamers that are supossed to buy this console, "Stupid" right in our faces, just for the motivation of money and the wrong idea that they can actually make us buy this monster and violate our minds with those childish lies.
I say this, if someone buy this console, will be showing to microsoft that they can do as they want with our rights as "customers", that we are so poorly proud of ourselves as gamers to let them steal our money right in our faces, and still be happy with that.
I say, as gamer and customer that belives in his rigths, that this console doesn't represent a "New generation of gaming", but a "New generation of stealing", and we are called to stop this madness by not buying this abomination, and keep our voices louder in the telling of the truth, to our friends, and anyone that is considering in buying it, and hope they'll become aware about this matter and what this actually represents for us as a collective of customers and for the integrity of our rights.
They can steal our money, but they can't steal our pride bros ^-^
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 16, 19:05:48
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 16, 19:05:48
My mom gave me this piece of advice today:
"Never assume that a company's decision is not driven by money. Even when a company gives the customers what they want, that choice is still motivated by money."
"Never assume that a company's decision is not driven by money. Even when a company gives the customers what they want, that choice is still motivated by money."
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 16, 20:36:26
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 16, 20:36:26
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 16, 19:05:48
My mom gave me this piece of advice today:
"Never assume that a company's decision is not driven by money. Even when a company gives the customers what they want, that choice is still motivated by money."
That's one of the most true things I've ever heard. If they didn't want money, they would give everything at the lowest cost and they wouldn't be as rich as they are, and that goes for M$ and Sony. M$ is just doing things wrong this time, but Sony is taking advantage of their mistakes and giving us gamers what we want, so we can buy PS4 and give Sony our money. But we will have to choose to give our money to one of them, anyway, so that we give it to the one who gives us what we want. Let's at least have a fair trade.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 17, 06:00:46
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 17, 06:00:46
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 16, 19:05:48
My mom gave me this piece of advice today:
"Never assume that a company's decision is not driven by money. Even when a company gives the customers what they want, that choice is still motivated by money."
One thing is the obvious statement that companies want money, but another thing, is what microsoft is doing in the claim of that money.
Now, they are NOT selling us games, they are RENTING us those games, which is an insult to our rights as customers, since if i'm paying you a game, that games is now MINE, and i should be able to do whatever i want with it since it's MY game.
And that's what is so disapointing about Microsoft, and that's why Sony is going to win this "New gen" battle.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 17, 12:42:46
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 17, 12:42:46
We should really think of new questions for Microsoft because I didn't even think about this one:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/5876_541711612552033_690233031_n.png)
So, basically, if you get banned from Xbox Live, even if you're wrongfully banned (perhaps by a sore loser who claims you hacked/cheated), you will no longer be able to even play your Xbox One games offline. Tell me how that's fair.
And yes, I looked into it, and @XboxSupport1 is apparently Microsoft's overflow account. The tweets are actually there, as well. This is legit.
In fact, there's a little bit more: https://twitter.com/XboxSupport1/status/346650071011561472
The problem is, the link that ^BB provided doesn't say anything about what happens if you get banned from Xbox Live. :\
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/5876_541711612552033_690233031_n.png)
So, basically, if you get banned from Xbox Live, even if you're wrongfully banned (perhaps by a sore loser who claims you hacked/cheated), you will no longer be able to even play your Xbox One games offline. Tell me how that's fair.
And yes, I looked into it, and @XboxSupport1 is apparently Microsoft's overflow account. The tweets are actually there, as well. This is legit.
In fact, there's a little bit more: https://twitter.com/XboxSupport1/status/346650071011561472
The problem is, the link that ^BB provided doesn't say anything about what happens if you get banned from Xbox Live. :\
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: McSleuthburger on 2013 Jun 17, 13:40:37
Post by: McSleuthburger on 2013 Jun 17, 13:40:37
Spoiler: show
Remember though everybody who plays online agrees to the "Terms of Service" or "Terms of Agreement" or blah blah blah when you register for your online account
When are agree you are basically signing away all your rights and they can do whatever they want with the account now
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 17, 13:48:02
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 17, 13:48:02
Quote from: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 17, 06:00:46Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 16, 19:05:48
My mom gave me this piece of advice today:
"Never assume that a company's decision is not driven by money. Even when a company gives the customers what they want, that choice is still motivated by money."
One thing is the obvious statement that companies want money, but another thing, is what microsoft is doing in the claim of that money.
Now, they are NOT selling us games, they are RENTING us those games, which is an insult to our rights as customers, since if i'm paying you a game, that games is now MINE, and i should be able to do whatever i want with it since it's MY game.
And that's what is so disapointing about Microsoft, and that's why Sony is going to win this "New gen" battle.
Not trying to defend M$, but you know the way Steam does things is really similar to what M$ wants to do, right? We buy games on Steam, but we can't resell it nor lend it to anyone. The only difference is that Steam lets you play your single player games offline without having to check from time to time, but you need to be logged in to access your games, even offline. The real advantage of Steam over everything is the games' prices and Steam sales. Otherwise, it would be as bad as the Xbox One. I'm really starting to think M$ is really doing things based on Steam, what wouldn't be really that bad if they could sell games with really low prices from time to time, mainly for people like me who lives in a country were games prices are full of taxes.
I'm still going to get a PS4 (and the fact people are estimating the Xbox One to be sold here for the equivalent of US$1000 and the PS4 has chances to be sold for the true price of US$400 really helps my decision), but I don't really think M$ is as dumb as they are looking like.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 17, 13:55:03
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 17, 13:55:03
Quote from: McSleuthburger on 2013 Jun 17, 13:40:37Spoiler: show
Remember though everybody who plays online agrees to the "Terms of Service" or "Terms of Agreement" or blah blah blah when you register for your online account
When are agree you are basically signing away all your rights and they can do whatever they want with the account now
It just sucks that it takes away offline play as well.
Quote from: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 17, 13:48:02Quote from: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 17, 06:00:46Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 16, 19:05:48
My mom gave me this piece of advice today:
"Never assume that a company's decision is not driven by money. Even when a company gives the customers what they want, that choice is still motivated by money."
One thing is the obvious statement that companies want money, but another thing, is what microsoft is doing in the claim of that money.
Now, they are NOT selling us games, they are RENTING us those games, which is an insult to our rights as customers, since if i'm paying you a game, that games is now MINE, and i should be able to do whatever i want with it since it's MY game.
And that's what is so disapointing about Microsoft, and that's why Sony is going to win this "New gen" battle.
Not trying to defend M$, but you know the way Steam does things is really similar to what M$ wants to do, right? We buy games on Steam, but we can't resell it nor lend it to anyone. The only difference is that Steam lets you play your single player games offline without having to check from time to time, but you need to be logged in to access your games, even offline. The real advantage of Steam over everything is the games' prices and Steam sales. Otherwise, it would be as bad as the Xbox One. I'm really starting to think M$ is really doing things based on Steam, what wouldn't be really that bad if they could sell games with really low prices from time to time, mainly for people like me who lives in a country were games prices are full of taxes.
I'm still going to get a PS4 (and the fact people are estimating the Xbox One to be sold here for the equivalent of US$1000 and the PS4 has chances to be sold for the true price of US$400 really helps my decision), but I don't really think M$ is as dumb as they are looking like.
I don't have to log in to Steam to access my games, I don't think. I put shortcuts to them on my desktop.
And the thing is, people are used to that kind of thing on the PC. We download games on the PC all the time. With Minecraft, you have to pay for your account, and then you download the game. Bam. It's kind of hard to work out reselling games that you've downloaded.
In the real world, we have the concept of owning a physical copy of something, like a disc. We're used to that. We like that. We like being able to hold onto our rights to that physical copy that we purchased because we paid for the rights to that thing. It's like a company trying to put restrictions on the resale and usage of DVDs. With the Xbox One, it feels more like we'll be renting their games instead of buying them. Like they're letting us play them, like it's a privilege to play them.
Besides that, I've never been a fan of Xbox Live anyway. :P Especially with the fact that you have to have Xbox Live to use Netflix on the Xbox360. My mom was so angry when she found that out. She's already paying for Netflix, and she doesn't want to have to pay again just to use it on her console. So, she's been using my PS3 for Netflix because it doesn't charge you for using Netflix on it.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 17, 15:02:45
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 17, 15:02:45
The thing is that they don't seem to split console games and computer games into two different categories, and are trying to make they work the same way: download and play your own copy. Before Steam, we also had the physical copy of our games and could do whatever we wanted with them. Steam actually don't let you play games if you don't have registered in your PC the infromations about a logged in account. You can test it: logout from your Steam account and try to play offline. But Steam doesn't need to actually check every 24 hours if you are logged in. And you wouldn't like to own the physical copy of a game if it costs twice as much as the digital copy, like it happens here in Brazil.
I also don't like Xbox Live, but if they fix it, and make everything work as well as Steam, it can actually become a good deal.
I also don't like Xbox Live, but if they fix it, and make everything work as well as Steam, it can actually become a good deal.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 17, 16:18:13
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 17, 16:18:13
I'm actually quite delighted that I still have my disc of Catz 5. Every few years, I decide I want to play it again, but I have a new computer, so I just dig up the disc, put it in, install, and play. :3 Though I suppose with Steam, if I got a new computer, all I'd have to do is install Steam on it.
Here's one thing...
Xbox One and PS4 = Same size harddrive
Xbox One = Saving the entire file of the game itself on the harddrive so you no longer need to put a disc in to play it
PS4 = Doesn't do that
And as a side note: PC = Can have 1TB, 2TB, etc. harddrive :P
That's actually another thing. Downloading an entire game onto a PC isn't as big of a deal because people generally tend to have a pretty large amount of harddrive space on their gaming computers.
Here's one thing...
Xbox One and PS4 = Same size harddrive
Xbox One = Saving the entire file of the game itself on the harddrive so you no longer need to put a disc in to play it
PS4 = Doesn't do that
And as a side note: PC = Can have 1TB, 2TB, etc. harddrive :P
That's actually another thing. Downloading an entire game onto a PC isn't as big of a deal because people generally tend to have a pretty large amount of harddrive space on their gaming computers.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 17, 17:03:39
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 17, 17:03:39
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 17, 16:18:13
I'm actually quite delighted that I still have my disc of Catz 5. Every few years, I decide I want to play it again, but I have a new computer, so I just dig up the disc, put it in, install, and play. :3 Though I suppose with Steam, if I got a new computer, all I'd have to do is install Steam on it.
Here's one thing...
Xbox One and PS4 = Same size harddrive
Xbox One = Saving the entire file of the game itself on the harddrive so you no longer need to put a disc in to play it
PS4 = Doesn't do that
And as a side note: PC = Can have 1TB, 2TB, etc. harddrive :P
That's actually another thing. Downloading an entire game onto a PC isn't as big of a deal because people generally tend to have a pretty large amount of harddrive space on their gaming computers.
(What is not really my case... I had to cut some costs when I bought my PC and had to get a 500 GB HD... I freaking need a new one... :P)
That can be a problem, but it's easy to solve by allowing the usage of external HDs. And having to check every 24 hours avoid the trouble of having hackers using games pre-installed in external HD, as every game you buy is registered under your name.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 18, 01:24:06
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 18, 01:24:06
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 17, 16:18:13
I'm actually quite delighted that I still have my disc of Catz 5. Every few years, I decide I want to play it again, but I have a new computer, so I just dig up the disc, put it in, install, and play. :3 Though I suppose with Steam, if I got a new computer, all I'd have to do is install Steam on it.
Here's one thing...
Xbox One and PS4 = Same size harddrive
Xbox One = Saving the entire file of the game itself on the harddrive so you no longer need to put a disc in to play it
PS4 = Doesn't do that
And as a side note: PC = Can have 1TB, 2TB, etc. harddrive :P
That's actually another thing. Downloading an entire game onto a PC isn't as big of a deal because people generally tend to have a pretty large amount of harddrive space on their gaming computers.
Well I don't know for certain, but I'd say ps4 can do the same as ps3; it has a 2.5"(laptop) HDD bay so can be swapped with any 2.5" sata hard drive. In fact, the ps3 does support up to at least a 2TB hard drive. The only downside may be the available bandwidth, though they're probably going with SATA 6Gb/s. My guess for the xbox one is that it'll have proprietary storage, and cost significantly more. And have they stated the ps4 won't allow for game installation? It is a nice option to have. Unless of course any of this stuff as been confirmed otherwise.
Though they will both probably support external drives, since I believe both ps3 and 360 do.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 18, 12:01:31
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 18, 12:01:31
Quote from: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 18, 01:24:06Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 17, 16:18:13
I'm actually quite delighted that I still have my disc of Catz 5. Every few years, I decide I want to play it again, but I have a new computer, so I just dig up the disc, put it in, install, and play. :3 Though I suppose with Steam, if I got a new computer, all I'd have to do is install Steam on it.
Here's one thing...
Xbox One and PS4 = Same size harddrive
Xbox One = Saving the entire file of the game itself on the harddrive so you no longer need to put a disc in to play it
PS4 = Doesn't do that
And as a side note: PC = Can have 1TB, 2TB, etc. harddrive :P
That's actually another thing. Downloading an entire game onto a PC isn't as big of a deal because people generally tend to have a pretty large amount of harddrive space on their gaming computers.
Well I don't know for certain, but I'd say ps4 can do the same as ps3; it has a 2.5"(laptop) HDD bay so can be swapped with any 2.5" sata hard drive. In fact, the ps3 does support up to at least a 2TB hard drive. The only downside may be the available bandwidth, though they're probably going with SATA 6Gb/s. My guess for the xbox one is that it'll have proprietary storage, and cost significantly more. And have they stated the ps4 won't allow for game installation? It is a nice option to have. Unless of course any of this stuff as been confirmed otherwise.
Though they will both probably support external drives, since I believe both ps3 and 360 do.
They support external harddrives? :o How many people know about this?
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 18, 15:53:35
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 18, 15:53:35
I don't know much about the PS3, but Xbox 360 supports a small external drive, I don't remember the limit, but my brother uses a 16GB pendrive. I do remember the maximum were really small, and I couldn't use my external HD on it.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 19, 00:23:25
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 19, 00:23:25
Quote from: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 18, 15:53:35
I don't know much about the PS3, but Xbox 360 supports a small external drive, I don't remember the limit, but my brother uses a 16GB pendrive. I do remember the maximum were really small, and I couldn't use my external HD on it.
Yeah, Its been too long since I cared about storage on my 360.X3 They do support usb HDDs, but only up to 32GB. Ps3 on the other hand seems to properly support them.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 19, 08:14:55
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 19, 08:14:55
People can't actually hack your Kinect, right? :\ That seems to be a worry among some people, since there are worries that people can hack webcams and stuff.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 19, 14:50:18
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 19, 14:50:18
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 19, 08:14:55
People can't actually hack your Kinect, right? :\ That seems to be a worry among some people, since there are worries that people can hack webcams and stuff.
Well it is definitely possible to do, though it might be ridiculously improbable.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 Jun 19, 16:42:17
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 Jun 19, 16:42:17
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 19, 08:14:55
People can't actually hack your Kinect, right? :\ That seems to be a worry among some people, since there are worries that people can hack webcams and stuff.
If it makes you feel any better, the people who are good enough to do that would probably spend their S1cK H4x0R Sk1llz with something like threatening national security.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 19, 20:31:43
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 19, 20:31:43
http://www.gamespot.com//news/microsoft-changing-xbox-one-policies-6410472? (http://forum.legendsofequestria.com/go.php?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5nYW1lc3BvdC5jb20vL25ld3MvbWljcm9zb2Z0LWNoYW5naW5nLXhib3gtb25lLXBvbGljaWVzLTY0MTA0NzI/)
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 19, 21:23:38
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 19, 21:23:38
Well, that changes everything. Now, Xbox One is back as a possible choice. (But I'm still getting a PS4)
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 19, 21:33:08
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 19, 21:33:08
So hyped-up right now... I want a Xbox One now!!! Please make Banjo 3!!!
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 Jun 19, 21:56:17
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 Jun 19, 21:56:17
Quote from: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 19, 20:31:43
http://www.gamespot.com//news/microsoft-changing-xbox-one-policies-6410472? (http://forum.legendsofequestria.com/go.php?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5nYW1lc3BvdC5jb20vL25ld3MvbWljcm9zb2Z0LWNoYW5naW5nLXhib3gtb25lLXBvbGljaWVzLTY0MTA0NzI/)
Well that came as a surprise...
In a single moment Microsoft took a drastic change in the complete opposite direction.
I'd be happy if this is true, but please pardon my urge to feel skeptical.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 19, 22:09:27
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Jun 19, 22:09:27
It's in their official blog, so it must be true... At least for now... But I believe it'll be like that. Their console was losing too much popularity, and the rate it was going, they would stay too much behind Sony and Nintendo. They had to do something about it. They are greedy, but not dumb.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Vinyl light on 2013 Jun 19, 22:17:09
Post by: Vinyl light on 2013 Jun 19, 22:17:09
Quote from: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 19, 20:31:43
http://www.gamespot.com//news/microsoft-changing-xbox-one-policies-6410472? (http://forum.legendsofequestria.com/go.php?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5nYW1lc3BvdC5jb20vL25ld3MvbWljcm9zb2Z0LWNoYW5naW5nLXhib3gtb25lLXBvbGljaWVzLTY0MTA0NzI/)
The fact that they put all the restrictions to begin with and thought they could get away with it is more then enough for me not to get Xbox One.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 20, 00:22:46
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Jun 20, 00:22:46
Quote from: Sea Foam on 2013 Jun 19, 21:56:17Quote from: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 19, 20:31:43
http://www.gamespot.com//news/microsoft-changing-xbox-one-policies-6410472? (http://forum.legendsofequestria.com/go.php?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5nYW1lc3BvdC5jb20vL25ld3MvbWljcm9zb2Z0LWNoYW5naW5nLXhib3gtb25lLXBvbGljaWVzLTY0MTA0NzI/)
Well that came as a surprise...
In a single moment Microsoft took a drastic change in the complete opposite direction.
I'd be happy if this is true, but please pardon my urge to feel skeptical.
Xbox 180. ovO
Quote from: Vinyl light on 2013 Jun 19, 22:17:09Quote from: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 19, 20:31:43
http://www.gamespot.com//news/microsoft-changing-xbox-one-policies-6410472? (http://forum.legendsofequestria.com/go.php?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5nYW1lc3BvdC5jb20vL25ld3MvbWljcm9zb2Z0LWNoYW5naW5nLXhib3gtb25lLXBvbGljaWVzLTY0MTA0NzI/)
The fact that they put all the restrictions to begin with and thought they could get away with it is more then enough for me not to get Xbox One.
*Shrug* We're still getting a PS4 when we can afford it.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Vick McBread on 2013 Jun 20, 00:34:39
Post by: Vick McBread on 2013 Jun 20, 00:34:39
We don't care about systems anymore. STEAM BOX ALL THE WAY! Here's the system:
(not hating or anything)
First the two will come out. Right? Good.
Then Gabe will buy them both and play it for a month.
Then he'll figure out a way to beat BOTH consoles.
He'll then release The 'Steam Box' Knowing that anypony to knows enough about all 3 consoles, will most likely to to The 'Steam box' And use what knowledge he has to get the best of ratings.
After that. In time. More and more people will get the Steam box. And when its time to change out the consoles again. Gabe will not make a 'Steam Box 2' He would have already 'updated' it enough so that People would have to do research to see which is the best. And not only that. Those that have the money. Will go to 'Steam box' Simply because their Valve-Fan-Boy-Friend would tell them "Steam box is better..."
NOT TO SAY THAT THE STEAM BOX WILL BE BETTER! Its just. That's what's most likely going to happen... Unless players want a lesser experience because they want to be Faithful to their company they love so much...
(not hating or anything)
First the two will come out. Right? Good.
Then Gabe will buy them both and play it for a month.
Then he'll figure out a way to beat BOTH consoles.
He'll then release The 'Steam Box' Knowing that anypony to knows enough about all 3 consoles, will most likely to to The 'Steam box' And use what knowledge he has to get the best of ratings.
After that. In time. More and more people will get the Steam box. And when its time to change out the consoles again. Gabe will not make a 'Steam Box 2' He would have already 'updated' it enough so that People would have to do research to see which is the best. And not only that. Those that have the money. Will go to 'Steam box' Simply because their Valve-Fan-Boy-Friend would tell them "Steam box is better..."
NOT TO SAY THAT THE STEAM BOX WILL BE BETTER! Its just. That's what's most likely going to happen... Unless players want a lesser experience because they want to be Faithful to their company they love so much...
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 20, 00:36:19
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 20, 00:36:19
Can you play Halo, Nintendo, and whatever PS games on the Steam Box?
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Book Smarts on 2013 Jun 20, 00:51:09
Post by: Book Smarts on 2013 Jun 20, 00:51:09
Quote from: Sea Foam on 2013 Jun 19, 21:56:17Quote from: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 19, 20:31:43
http://www.gamespot.com//news/microsoft-changing-xbox-one-policies-6410472? (http://forum.legendsofequestria.com/go.php?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5nYW1lc3BvdC5jb20vL25ld3MvbWljcm9zb2Z0LWNoYW5naW5nLXhib3gtb25lLXBvbGljaWVzLTY0MTA0NzI/)
Well that came as a surprise...
In a single moment Microsoft took a drastic change in the complete opposite direction.
I'd be happy if this is true, but please pardon my urge to feel skeptical.
Public outcry, and protest win the day :D
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 Jun 20, 01:36:39
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 Jun 20, 01:36:39
It's not confirmed yet. Even if it do I have to remind you the huge price and that most of its games are just sports and call of duty
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 20, 03:09:17
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 20, 03:09:17
Ah, M$... Still not good enough. lol You still have to wonder, are they actually listening to consumers, or just hiding in the shadows to release anguish to buyers at a later date.
I'm pretty sure its confirmed, since its on the news portion of xbox.com.
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2013 Jun 20, 01:36:39
It's not confirmed yet. Even if it do I have to remind you the huge price and that most of its games are just sports and call of duty
I'm pretty sure its confirmed, since its on the news portion of xbox.com.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 20, 06:58:18
Post by: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 20, 06:58:18
Quote from: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 20, 03:09:17Quote from: Blues-Music on 2013 Jun 20, 01:36:39
It's not confirmed yet. Even if it do I have to remind you the huge price and that most of its games are just sports and call of duty
I'm pretty sure its confirmed, since its on the news portion of xbox.com.
It's more than confirmed, MS has understood that the customers are more important than they expected in a first moment.
Well, even if MS quit the restrictions on the console, i still do not want it, because i know that when a lot of Xbox one will be sold, they are going to put some new restrictions and try to gain more money trough our customers rigths, i basically don't trust in this console.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 20, 21:39:22
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jun 20, 21:39:22
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Book Smarts on 2013 Jun 21, 10:31:29
Post by: Book Smarts on 2013 Jun 21, 10:31:29
My best friend is actually still moving to the PS4, even though he's been on the 360 since its release
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Nala Valor on 2013 Jun 21, 11:08:47
Post by: Nala Valor on 2013 Jun 21, 11:08:47
1 thing is sure, I've always been a PS fan since the first one but after ps2, I changed for Xbox 360 because my parents bought it, thinking it was a good idea and that I wanted that. Now, there's too much games I want to play a bunch of games that are Ps exclusive so I'm going for the PS4 no mater what Microsoft says.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 Jun 21, 15:24:56
Post by: Blues-Music on 2013 Jun 21, 15:24:56
Quote from: KireiameJin on 2013 Jun 20, 06:58:18during the time I posted that it wasn't confirmed. Also I doubt Microsoft is doing this for the costumes otherwise they would have treated them better from the beginning. Also I won't be getting this console just because they got rid of bad things doesn't give enough good to buy it.Quote from: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 20, 03:09:17Quote from: Blues-Music on 2013 Jun 20, 01:36:39
It's not confirmed yet. Even if it do I have to remind you the huge price and that most of its games are just sports and call of duty
I'm pretty sure its confirmed, since its on the news portion of xbox.com.
It's more than confirmed, MS has understood that the customers are more important than they expected in a first moment.
Well, even if MS quit the restrictions on the console, i still do not want it, because i know that when a lot of Xbox one will be sold, they are going to put some new restrictions and try to gain more money trough our customers rigths, i basically don't trust in this console.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 21, 17:00:43
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jun 21, 17:00:43
Quote from: Blues-Music on 2013 Jun 21, 15:24:56
during the time I posted that it wasn't confirmed. Also I doubt Microsoft is doing this for the costumes otherwise they would have treated them better from the beginning. Also I won't be getting this console just because they got rid of bad things doesn't give enough good to buy it.
Sorry bout that, was quite tired when I posted it... X3 And you speak the truth, they "did it for the consumers" because they wouldn't get many sales otherwise. Really the only thing they had going for them was the idea for family sharing, and they're taking it away because they're bad.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 Jul 10, 01:34:19
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 Jul 10, 01:34:19
http://www.change.org/petitions/xbox-one-give-us-back-the-original-xbox-one\
Wat...
http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-give-us-back-the-xbox-one-we-were-promised-at-e3-2
WAT!?!
Wat...
http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-give-us-back-the-xbox-one-we-were-promised-at-e3-2
WAT!?!
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jul 10, 14:56:30
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jul 10, 14:56:30
I can't find the words for this stupidity...
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Mr. Gency on 2013 Jul 10, 16:12:23
Post by: Mr. Gency on 2013 Jul 10, 16:12:23
Quote from: Sea Foam on 2013 Jul 10, 01:34:19Likely troll petitions.
http://www.change.org/petitions/xbox-one-give-us-back-the-original-xbox-one\
Wat...
http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-give-us-back-the-xbox-one-we-were-promised-at-e3-2
WAT!?!
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jul 10, 20:30:54
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jul 10, 20:30:54
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Teal Turken on 2013 Jul 10, 21:07:19
Post by: Teal Turken on 2013 Jul 10, 21:07:19
It's not trolling, those petitions are real.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jul 10, 21:14:29
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2013 Jul 10, 21:14:29
Quote from: Teal Turken on 2013 Jul 10, 21:07:19
It's not trolling, those petitions are real.
Trolling as in trolls started the petitions.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Darkangel on 2013 Jul 10, 22:08:50
Post by: Darkangel on 2013 Jul 10, 22:08:50
I'm PRETTY sure those are people who hate MS and want to make the Xbox One fail.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jul 10, 22:34:13
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jul 10, 22:34:13
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 Jul 11, 03:45:49
Post by: Sea Foam on 2013 Jul 11, 03:45:49
Quote from: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jul 10, 22:34:13Spoiler: show
That was the video where I found the information, but I choose not to post it because....
because, well, the profanity is staggering. X3
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jul 16, 00:49:24
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jul 16, 00:49:24
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Altair3140 on 2013 Jul 20, 17:30:59
Post by: Altair3140 on 2013 Jul 20, 17:30:59
One Emote: :c
Really, as much as I love the Xbox 360, I don't know why, but the Xbox One is something I can't stand. But, I don't emit any stopping for Microsoft, keep working, microsoft! :D
Really, as much as I love the Xbox 360, I don't know why, but the Xbox One is something I can't stand. But, I don't emit any stopping for Microsoft, keep working, microsoft! :D
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jul 27, 11:28:14
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Jul 27, 11:28:14
http://www.nowgamer.com/news/2018003/xbox_one_to_support_mods_its_up_to_developers_says_major_nelson.html (http://forum.legendsofequestria.com/go.php?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5ub3dnYW1lci5jb20vbmV3cy8yMDE4MDAzL3hib3hfb25lX3RvX3N1cHBvcnRfbW9kc19pdHNfdXBfdG9fZGV2ZWxvcGVyc19zYXlzX21ham9yX25lbHNvbi5odG1s)
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Reagoo on 2013 Aug 01, 20:21:29
Post by: Reagoo on 2013 Aug 01, 20:21:29
After an online backlash, Microsoft reversed its decision to mandate a once-per-24h online check in and the used game DRM policy which would have placed restrictions on the used game market.
The system will now only require a one-time connection to setup a new Xbox One. After that, gamers are free to play any disc-based game without going online again. Just like with Xbox 360, in other words.
This does away with the much-maligned 24-hour check-in requirement that would have made even offline, disc-based games null and void with a day-long dropped internet connection.
"Today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360," wrote Don Mattrick.
Previously, Microsoft set up the Xbox One with a one-time lending policy for disc-based games that would only be possible if the recipient was your friend on Xbox Live for more than 30 days.
It seems to me as Microsoft does listen to their customers. And personally I think all this has been a bit overblown.
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/xbox-one-release-date-news-and-rumours-937167
The system will now only require a one-time connection to setup a new Xbox One. After that, gamers are free to play any disc-based game without going online again. Just like with Xbox 360, in other words.
This does away with the much-maligned 24-hour check-in requirement that would have made even offline, disc-based games null and void with a day-long dropped internet connection.
"Today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360," wrote Don Mattrick.
Previously, Microsoft set up the Xbox One with a one-time lending policy for disc-based games that would only be possible if the recipient was your friend on Xbox Live for more than 30 days.
It seems to me as Microsoft does listen to their customers. And personally I think all this has been a bit overblown.
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/xbox-one-release-date-news-and-rumours-937167
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 01, 00:50:42
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 01, 00:50:42
Finally November. Its time for the official countdown for Xbox One's release.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Teal Turken on 2013 Nov 01, 08:59:28
Post by: Teal Turken on 2013 Nov 01, 08:59:28
I'm really wondering if the Xbox One is going to succeed or not. I've no idea how it's going to do at launch.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Nov 02, 00:43:41
Post by: ArtVeigar on 2013 Nov 02, 00:43:41
Spoiler: Time for some rant • show
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 19, 00:04:57
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 19, 00:04:57
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: GlassMirror on 2013 Nov 19, 00:13:38
Post by: GlassMirror on 2013 Nov 19, 00:13:38
xbox one=(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/b/w/bwahplz.png?2)
wii u=(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/i/l/ilavplz.png?1)
wii u=(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/i/l/ilavplz.png?1)
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 19, 00:18:05
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 19, 00:18:05
Quote from: GlassMirror on 2013 Nov 19, 00:13:38
xbox one=(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/b/w/bwahplz.png?2)
wii u=(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/i/l/ilavplz.png?1)
Bah hum Bug.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: GlassMirror on 2013 Nov 19, 00:19:55
Post by: GlassMirror on 2013 Nov 19, 00:19:55
Quote from: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 19, 00:18:05Quote from: GlassMirror on 2013 Nov 19, 00:13:38
xbox one=(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/b/w/bwahplz.png?2)
wii u=(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/i/l/ilavplz.png?1)
Bah hum Bug.
:3
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 19, 00:22:17
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 19, 00:22:17
Quote from: GlassMirror on 2013 Nov 19, 00:19:55Quote from: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 19, 00:18:05Quote from: GlassMirror on 2013 Nov 19, 00:13:38
xbox one=(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/b/w/bwahplz.png?2)
wii u=(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/i/l/ilavplz.png?1)
Bah hum Bug.
:3
Your lucky I <3 U like a Moon cat from Sailor Moon or I would've bring da paine.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: GlassMirror on 2013 Nov 19, 00:24:46
Post by: GlassMirror on 2013 Nov 19, 00:24:46
Quote from: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 19, 00:22:17Quote from: GlassMirror on 2013 Nov 19, 00:19:55Quote from: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 19, 00:18:05Quote from: GlassMirror on 2013 Nov 19, 00:13:38
xbox one=(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/b/w/bwahplz.png?2)
wii u=(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/i/l/ilavplz.png?1)
Bah hum Bug.
:3
Your lucky I <3 U like a Moon cat from Sailor Moon or I would've bring da paine.
lol If you brought the paine, my sig says it all (I'm being chased by you, that's what I mean)
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Joylight on 2013 Nov 19, 17:59:28
Post by: Joylight on 2013 Nov 19, 17:59:28
Now if only they lowered the prices...and make that Killer Instinct. :I
Nope, still won't pay for it. I'll wait until Black Friday or the Holiday Season for prices to drop EVEN FURTHER, my family is bargain hunters...saying in the least.
I'm miffed at Nintendo. ( DD: What?) They delayed Flipnote Studio 3D after they SAID it was going to be released this year in the summer. :l
Wait, M$. Right. What's the discussion about?
Nope, still won't pay for it. I'll wait until Black Friday or the Holiday Season for prices to drop EVEN FURTHER, my family is bargain hunters...saying in the least.
I'm miffed at Nintendo. ( DD: What?) They delayed Flipnote Studio 3D after they SAID it was going to be released this year in the summer. :l
Wait, M$. Right. What's the discussion about?
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 20, 08:15:19
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 20, 08:15:19
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Joylight on 2013 Nov 20, 20:08:15
Post by: Joylight on 2013 Nov 20, 20:08:15
Right. Right. I'm still trying to see how it'll work out for Microsoft this year. Still got one and a half month left, guys. C'mon, convince us you're not slaves of money. ovO
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 20, 20:25:13
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 20, 20:25:13
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Nov 22, 23:24:43
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2013 Nov 22, 23:24:43
It's a good idea not to buy an Xbox One yet. Unless you like gambling.
And people have already reported Red Ring of Death, too.
Welcome to Ddddddddddday One!
If only companies would release finished products. :\
I also would've preferred it if Microsoft had made an entertainment system off to the side as an entirely different thing, instead of making the Xbox One be one.
And people have already reported Red Ring of Death, too.
Welcome to Ddddddddddday One!
If only companies would release finished products. :\
I also would've preferred it if Microsoft had made an entertainment system off to the side as an entirely different thing, instead of making the Xbox One be one.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 23, 00:09:59
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 23, 00:09:59
That video made me laugh but I hope that doesn't happen to mine when I get it on my birthday in February.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Jenzy on 2013 Nov 23, 02:49:01
Post by: Jenzy on 2013 Nov 23, 02:49:01
It's actually just showing how the pass-through feature for TV works on the X-Box One...
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 23, 10:29:06
Post by: Shadow Mare on 2013 Nov 23, 10:29:06
Mario gone rouge! lol that's awesome that the Xbox One can even do that.
Title: Re: Xbox One discussion topic
Post by: Joylight on 2013 Nov 23, 11:43:36
Post by: Joylight on 2013 Nov 23, 11:43:36
Quote from: Jenzy on 2013 Nov 23, 02:49:01
It's actually just showing how the pass-through feature for TV works on the X-Box One...
MARIO CROSSING OVER OTHER CONSOLES~ Only he could do it. X3
...still ain't buying. Too high for my blood.