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Title: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Liska on 2012 Sep 21, 23:36:51
Hey, everyone! Hope you're enjoying the new theme!
We're still fixing various things about it, so hold on tight. I'll address some known issues right meow.  :P

It's too bright compared to the old one.
[*]This will take some adjustment on your end. Several have stated that the forum is just fine. It is supposed to be bright.

Tiny "New" Posts button.
[*]Made it a bigger star.

Can't we change forum themes? Can't you make a darker one?
[*]Sorry, but we're going to keep this theme in the general style, that won't be changing. We will make modifications to better suit you all, but keep in mind that when the forums and integrated with the (new) website, it will look very much the same.

Move the navigation bar to the center.
[*]I had already done this, and the problem is that it will mess up the buttons depending on each person's specific screen resolution. In addition, whenever you get a new message and it says "My Messages [1]," the layout will most likely shift all weirdly!

Unread/Reply buttons are too small.
[*]I'll look into that.

We want our avatars back.
[*]I'll see what I can do, and where I could position them.

Post/Preview buttons too small.
[*]Made a bit bigger.

Spoiler: BADABOOM! • show
[center]ARE
YOU
READY,
MY
LITTLE
PONIES?
(http://speedcap.net/img/82ba3d84d97a288a7f5e9a3a632b81eb/087b04ea.png)[/center]
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Weatherboy1 on 2012 Sep 21, 23:46:42
Ready For what? Season 3, LoE? I'm ready for anything
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Liska on 2012 Sep 21, 23:49:47
Quote from: Weatherboy1 on 2012 Sep 21, 23:46:42
Ready For what? Season 3, LoE? I'm ready for anything
A new forum theme. ^-^
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Weatherboy1 on 2012 Sep 21, 23:56:54
Quote from: AnyaSmash on 2012 Sep 21, 23:49:47
Quote from: Weatherboy1 on 2012 Sep 21, 23:46:42
Ready For what? Season 3, LoE? I'm ready for anything
A new forum theme. ^-^

Holy crap! Its... Its... its.... Beath-taking
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Coffee Rush on 2012 Sep 21, 23:58:00
NOOOOOOO!!
I'll adapt soon..
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Nala Valor on 2012 Sep 21, 23:59:01
I'm going to re-act what happened...

*post on cute image thread*
*taling super long*
"please... Don't tell me it's an other error 407! :'("
*waits 5 minutes*
*now sees new theme*
"Well this hurts my eyes... :l"

Really. I feel like its too bright.

And for some reason, it fits better the iPod dimentions (not a lot of sites does that)
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Itty Bit on 2012 Sep 22, 00:00:09
THERE YOU ARE Rageanya!
I swear I was looking for that picture for WEEKS.
I think the entire staff should have a rageface.
But on topic, I love the new forum look! It looks a lot more unique than the last one! :3
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Zygrograxgra on 2012 Sep 22, 00:00:59
Personally, I really, really prefer the other theme.
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Nala Valor on 2012 Sep 22, 00:02:10
Quote from: Zygrograxgra on 2012 Sep 22, 00:00:59
Personally, I really, really prefer the other theme.
Me too...
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Weatherboy1 on 2012 Sep 22, 00:05:11
Maybe the mods should do a poll, Personally I like the new theme
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Nala Valor on 2012 Sep 22, 00:07:13
Quote from: Nala Valor on 2012 Sep 21, 23:59:01
I'm going to re-act what happened...

*post on cute image thread*
*taling super long*
"please... Don't tell me it's an other error 407! :'("
*waits 5 minutes*
*now sees new theme*
"Well this hurts my eyes... :l"

Really. I feel like its too bright.

And for some reason, it fits better the iPod dimentions (not a lot of sites does that)
i take back that last part. The logo is all derped up.
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Teal Turken on 2012 Sep 22, 00:12:32
I kind of like the new theme. It's bright and pretty, but I think the rainbows should be placed more to the side and cover those blue blank spaces.
Also, if you guys don't like how bright it is, turn down your brightness!
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: SapphirePony on 2012 Sep 22, 00:14:37
Quote from: Teal Turken on 2012 Sep 22, 00:12:32
if you guys don't like how bright it is, turn down your brightness!
My brightness is turned down and it's causing more pain to my eyes  >:/
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Ezio Auditore da Firenze on 2012 Sep 22, 00:15:31
Quite frankly, it's too bright. And really, really small letters and buttons do NOT help. You may wish to reconsider that. Just a friendly piece of feedback :) Otherwise it's okay.
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Nala Valor on 2012 Sep 22, 00:17:14
Quote from: Teal Turken on 2012 Sep 22, 00:12:32
I kind of like the new theme. It's bright and pretty, but I think the rainbows should be placed more to the side and cover those blue blank spaces.
Also, if you guys don't like how bright it is, turn down your brightness!
my IPod's brighness is at the minimum and my eyes are still hurting. Some times, when it's bright, it's cool but for me, it's really too much.
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2012 Sep 22, 00:17:39
Here's how things went for me:
*Presses refresh* Wh... What? What is this? A new theme?! It's shiny and fancy. But the rainbows kinda hang down in front of stuff, and it's kinda bright.
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Teal Turken on 2012 Sep 22, 00:19:39
It looks like the new theme fails to satisfy. Sorry mods. :c
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Zygrograxgra on 2012 Sep 22, 00:20:10
Quote from: Teal Turken on 2012 Sep 22, 00:12:32
I kind of like the new theme. It's bright and pretty, but I think the rainbows should be placed more to the side and cover those blue blank spaces.
Also, if you guys don't like how bright it is, turn down your brightness!

Horribly inconveinent. My Ipod is currently near minimum brightness, and its near blinding to me. Most other websites I use are far darker, so turning down brightness would mean that every time I change tab I'll need to bring it back up again.
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2012 Sep 22, 00:21:00
Quote from: Teal Turken on 2012 Sep 22, 00:19:39
It looks like the new theme fails to satisfy. Sorry mods. :c

I think it's cool aside from the brightness and the tiny "new posts" button. Are the rainbows hanging in front of the actual forum part for anyone else, though?
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Rissian on 2012 Sep 22, 00:21:38
A lot of forums use a feature to choose what theme you want to use that may be a good idea to set up if this forum is capable of it.  ovO Anyways I was posting in a video game thread and suddenly bright rainbows and clouds and the brightness slightly bothers me a bit as well but not horribly bad I do like the cheery theme of it though feels pretty happy.  ^-^
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: SapphirePony on 2012 Sep 22, 00:22:08
It just needs to be toned down on the brightness, and I feel like the text is WAY smaller than before, my eyes can't handle smallness nor brightness.
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Liska on 2012 Sep 22, 00:23:22
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2012 Sep 22, 00:17:39
Here's how things went for me:
*Presses refresh* Wh... What? What is this? A new theme?! It's shiny and fancy. But the rainbows kinda hang down in front of stuff, and it's kinda bright.
Can you show me a screencap or tell me your screen resolution? ^-^
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Bravo 658 on 2012 Sep 22, 01:34:15
It's so...
Shiny!
Though the rainbows are in the way of the page numbers.
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Rissian on 2012 Sep 22, 01:36:09
I was wondering why I couldn't change pages on the top bar anymore, guess that explains it. o_o
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Bravo 658 on 2012 Sep 22, 01:54:57
 lol Also, I think you forgot the "mark all as read" button.
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Lord of Madness on 2012 Sep 22, 01:56:35
I love this new theme :DD
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Book Smarts on 2012 Sep 22, 01:59:03
Give me a week, I'll get the hang of it  :]
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Bravo 658 on 2012 Sep 22, 02:03:06
Quote from: Lord of Madness on 2012 Sep 22, 01:56:35
I love this new theme :DD


I know.
Maddening, isn't it?
*chuckles with glee*
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Blues-Music on 2012 Sep 22, 02:13:20
I love it.It feels like a my little pony forum already!
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Deviant on 2012 Sep 22, 02:14:27
It's so shiney o3o

It'll take some getting used to but other than that i think it looks great  ^-^
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Lord of Madness on 2012 Sep 22, 02:24:46
Quote from: Bravo 539 on 2012 Sep 22, 02:03:06
Quote from: Lord of Madness on 2012 Sep 22, 01:56:35
I love this new theme :DD


I know.
Maddening, isn't it?
*chuckles with glee*


the new forum layout makes me feel like posting like CRAZY AGAIN!!!
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Liska on 2012 Sep 22, 03:06:57
I've darkened the link and text colors, that should help a bit. I will modify the "New" star as soon as I can to appear more clearly.
The general layout will stay the same, I made it bright and colorful since this is indeed a forum about a game.. about colorful, bright ponies. :)
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Julius on 2012 Sep 22, 03:11:23
Well I'm not... Happy with it.  :\
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2012 Sep 22, 03:18:39
Thank you, Anya. ^-^
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 22, 04:53:29
Well I first thought I had an internet that was malfunctioning.
But give it a while and I will love it and condemn the previous lay-out.


As a side note: the Youtube-BBC-logo looks a bit different.
To me it just spells out "YouTube".
I like the idea of making the "New posts" much more noticeable.
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2012 Sep 22, 05:02:55
Quote from: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 22, 04:53:29
Well I first thought I had an internet that was malfunctioning.
But give it a while and I will love it and condemn the previous lay-out.


As a side note: the Youtube-BBC-logo looks a bit different.
To me it just spells out "YouTube".

I like the idea of making the "New posts" much more noticeable.

Was that sarcasm? I need to know if I'm the only one who's getting a "broken image" picture on that button. :I
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Julius on 2012 Sep 22, 05:06:48
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2012 Sep 22, 05:02:55
Quote from: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 22, 04:53:29
Well I first thought I had an internet that was malfunctioning.
But give it a while and I will love it and condemn the previous lay-out.


As a side note: the Youtube-BBC-logo looks a bit different.
To me it just spells out "YouTube".

I like the idea of making the "New posts" much more noticeable.

Was that sarcasm? I need to know if I'm the only one who's getting a "broken image" picture on that button. :I

Spoiler: show

(http://i.imgur.com/h3291.jpg)


Nope, broken for me too.

I'll admit the new layout kinda grows on you but... Still don't like it.  :P
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Liska on 2012 Sep 22, 05:10:28
Oh, silly me. How could I have forgotten that little icon?  X3
Ctrl F5, should be there now.
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Julius on 2012 Sep 22, 05:15:45
Spoiler: show
(http://i.imgur.com/gIPRq.jpg)


There we go! :)
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Liska on 2012 Sep 22, 05:19:32
Julius, since you're here, could you tell me how the page width is looking on your phone? :o
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 22, 05:20:10
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2012 Sep 22, 05:02:55
Quote from: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 22, 04:53:29
As a side note: the Youtube-BBC-logo looks a bit different.
To me it just spells out "YouTube".


Was that sarcasm? I need to know if I'm the only one who's getting a "broken image" picture on that button. :I

I can see now how that could have been a joke but no, the icon wasn't there.
I this section I'm always dead serio... I'm sorry, I can't say that with a straight face.

Quote from: AnyaSmash on 2012 Sep 22, 05:10:28
Oh, silly me. How could I have forgotten that little icon?  X3
Ctrl F5, should be there now.

Thanks.
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Julius on 2012 Sep 22, 05:23:59
Quote from: AnyaSmash on 2012 Sep 22, 05:19:32
Julius, since you're here, could you tell me how the page width is looking on your phone? :o


Take a look for yourself! It's actually way better, now that you pointed it out.
Spoiler: show

(http://i.imgur.com/HgaJ5.jpg)


Edit: Should I post Spoiler tags on these images, since I'm posting so many?
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Liska on 2012 Sep 22, 05:26:52
Fantastic! ^-^ Thank you, good sir.
We'll be working on moving those rainbows back so they're less of a nuisance.
(And yes, spoiler tags would probably be a good idea. ;))
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2012 Sep 22, 05:27:33
Quote from: AnyaSmash on 2012 Sep 22, 05:26:52
Fantastic! ^-^ Thank you, good sir.
We'll be working on moving those rainbows back so they're less of a nuisance.

It looks like you've already moved them to the sides, which is helpful too.
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Julius on 2012 Sep 22, 05:33:24
Woah! Now make those rainbows go to the bottom of the screen!  :3

Edit: Site's improving by the minute! Awesome! Guess I'd like for the Unread/Replies buttons to be like the old ones, I'd like to see my Avatar up there and... Perhaps the old purple "New" tags on unread posts, or something similar.

Overall, new layout keeps growing on me, to be honest. Glad I can be of help too! :D
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Liska on 2012 Sep 22, 05:48:39
Rainbows should be fixed with the mobile phone layout. ^-^
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 22, 05:51:14
When multi tasking with ponies and something unimportant, I slide the windows to the sides, Windows 7 style.
But the images from the layout don't all shrink or try to fit in the smaller window.
Spoiler: show
When I make the window smaller, let's say 1/2, I get this:
(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/553/proofforanya.jpg)

And when I scroll sideways, it looks like this:
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/715/proofforanya2.jpg)
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Tekner on 2012 Sep 22, 05:54:09
We're aware of the depth issue with the rainbows. It's not as easy as it seems to fix. For now, just do your best to not try to manually change your browser's width :\ We'll fix it eventually.
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Julius on 2012 Sep 22, 05:54:29
Quote from: AnyaSmash on 2012 Sep 22, 05:48:39
Rainbows should be fixed with the mobile phone layout. ^-^

Spoiler: show

(http://i.imgur.com/n1zEa.jpg)


Eeyup! Perfect on the iPhone now. Even when turning it sideways, I don't get what Judas gets.  :]
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Liska on 2012 Sep 22, 05:55:14
Ah yes, Judas. I have tried that and it does the same to me.
At least the elements don't overlap like they used to, but this since most of the major problems are seemingly fixed we're going to call it a night for tonight and hopefully continue fixing the rest in the morning. :D
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Julius on 2012 Sep 22, 05:56:51
Sweet dreams Anya! Thanks for the help. :)
Title: Re: MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 22, 05:57:18
Quote from: AnyaSmash on 2012 Sep 22, 05:55:14
Ah yes, Judas. I have tried that and it does the same to me.
At least the elements don't overlap like they used to, but this since most of the major problems are seemingly fixed we're going to call it a night for tonight and hopefully continue fixing the rest in the morning. :D

Sorry forgot about timezones, it's just noon here, goodnight.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Liska on 2012 Sep 22, 06:02:21
Moved to the rightful board now, please keep posting any errors or issues you encounter here and we'll be sure to fix them as soon as we can. 8D
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Zygrograxgra on 2012 Sep 22, 06:08:02
I just woke up, I'm on my Mac now...
My eyes are on fire.
They burn with the fury of a thousand suns.
Bright colourful stuff because it's about bright colourful ponies? Sure, as long as it doesn't cause ocular pain.

I just tried dimming it. Nothing different.
It's not just the brightness, it has to do with the mix of colors themselves and some such stuff.
Please give us the option to use either a second version of this that is much, much darker, or the option to use the old board.

Post and preview buttons don't fit in at all with the new theme.
Ach... I'll be back later, I need tolet my eyes stop hurting...
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Little Star on 2012 Sep 22, 06:58:03
I love it. It makes me really happy and it is uplifting  ^-^
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Lary on 2012 Sep 22, 08:35:21
I liked having my avatar up top, and the Legends of Equestria logo just seems to be redundant and takes up so much space. Plus, the text telling me I'm logged in is too small.

Everything just seems much smaller; the text, the new post button, the info at the top, all the interactive buttons... It's like this forum turned into the kind of forum I don't like browsing.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 22, 08:44:39
Quote from: Lary on 2012 Sep 22, 08:35:21
I liked having my avatar up top, and the Legends of Equestria logo just seems to be redundant and takes up so much space. Plus, the text telling me I'm logged in is too small.

Everything just seems much smaller; the text, the new post button, the info at the top, all the interactive buttons... It's like this forum turned into the kind of forum I don't like browsing.

*press CTRL + Numpad +* one tini tiny tap should suffice.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Lary on 2012 Sep 22, 08:49:44
Quote from: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 22, 08:44:39
*press CTRL + Numpad +* one tini tiny tap should suffice.


I knew about that, but doing that makes some of the smilies, and some of the other small pictures on the site, a little blurry.

Besides, that doesn't solve the logo taking up half my screen when I click on a link.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Zaner-Boy on 2012 Sep 22, 09:10:02
May I make a suggestion? Since it seems to be about 50:50 for those who like the new layout and those who don't, why not put an option somewhere in the account options as to which theme you want to use?
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Snowy on 2012 Sep 22, 09:31:56
When I came on I got confused...and thought it was just my computer. Now I have no idea where anything is. I'll get used to it soon though...

But other than that... I like it. I like the rainbows and everything.I just kinda miss having my picture shown on the top. But like I said before, i'll get used to it.

Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: PrincessButton on 2012 Sep 22, 09:43:01
I love love LOVE it!!  >:O
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Book Smarts on 2012 Sep 22, 10:04:57
All I request; is that the nav bar with home,profile, and the others be moved to the middle, instead of completely to the left
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: PrincessButton on 2012 Sep 22, 10:09:53
Quote from: Book Smarts on 2012 Sep 22, 10:04:57
All I request; is that the nav bar with home,profile, and the others be moved to the middle, instead of completely to the left

Yeah, that'd be nicer..
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2012 Sep 22, 11:21:20
Quote from: Pinkie Pie on 2012 Sep 22, 10:09:53
Quote from: Book Smarts on 2012 Sep 22, 10:04:57
All I request; is that the nav bar with home,profile, and the others be moved to the middle, instead of completely to the left

Yeah, that'd be nicer..

I don't mind it being on the left.

Hey, those of you who've also been around since EO, does the theme seem a little bit vaguely familiar to any of you? o.O Like... the rainbows, maybe? Or something else?
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: SapphirePony on 2012 Sep 22, 11:28:16
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2012 Sep 22, 11:21:20
Hey, those of you who've also been around since EO, does the theme seem a little bit vaguely familiar to any of you? o.O Like... the rainbows, maybe? Or something else?
The clouds? I don't know... I whiped all my memory from my EO days.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Lusterless Nova on 2012 Sep 22, 11:31:02
I like the sky blue background and the clouds with rainbow-waterfalls. But the background for the messages is a bit too bright.
Could we use the old colors? Or how about some new colors for that?
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: PrincessButton on 2012 Sep 22, 11:32:39
If we are giving suggestions.. I think it'd be helpful if the Unread and Replies links/buttons were bigger.  X3 They are very small right now.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Julius on 2012 Sep 22, 14:25:03
So, I'm seeing people agreeing to these:

Spoiler: show

(http://i.imgur.com/DpiyP.jpg)


The unread/replies buttons are too small (Not to mention, they were better as they were: "Show unread replies to your posts"), we would like to see our Avatars up there, and the text saying we're online is too small.

Spoiler: show

(http://i.imgur.com/w5zXV.jpg)


These buttons... The words "Bigger, Cooler!" come to mind. Also, that color...  :l

Spoiler: show

(http://i.imgur.com/rilIF.jpg)


This is more of a personal opinion, but I think the old purple "New" buttons showing a new post or reply were perfect. Now these stars are... Well...  :s

And last but not least, a lot of people is suggesting for you guys to add an option to switch between themes, but since Anya said the old theme will be completely forgotten... Well I'm not too sure about this one happening.

That is all! :)
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: PrincessButton on 2012 Sep 22, 15:39:47
Quote from: Julius on 2012 Sep 22, 14:25:03
So, I'm seeing people agreeing to these:

Spoiler: show

(http://i.imgur.com/DpiyP.jpg)


The unread/replies buttons are too small (Not to mention, they were better as they were: "Show unread replies to your posts"), we would like to see our Avatars up there, and the text saying we're online is too small.

Spoiler: show

(http://i.imgur.com/w5zXV.jpg)


These buttons... The words "Bigger, Cooler!" come to mind. Also, that color...  :l

Spoiler: show

(http://i.imgur.com/rilIF.jpg)


This is more of a personal opinion, but I think the old purple "New" buttons showing a new post or reply were perfect. Now these stars are... Well...  :s

And last but not least, a lot of people is suggesting for you guys to add an option to switch between themes, but since Anya said the old theme will be completely forgotten... Well I'm not too sure about this one happening.

That is all! :)
I sorta disagree, I like the stars. o 3 o
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Zygrograxgra on 2012 Sep 22, 15:43:06
Just give us the option on the forum to choose a dark version and I'll be happy.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Lusterless Nova on 2012 Sep 22, 16:09:16
Quote from: Zygrograxgra on 2012 Sep 22, 15:43:06
Just give us the option on the forum to choose a dark version and I'll be happy.
That would be a neat idea. Is it possible to add a theme selector here?
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Liska on 2012 Sep 22, 16:19:48
We have had the ability to select themes in the past. In fact, we made themes for all the Mane 6 as well as some other well-liked ponies.
We don't wish to take up a majority of space with the themes, and like I've said before, when the forums are integrated with the website, you will definitely not be able to select your own theme, and it will be much like the one we have now.
I will look through all the suggestions and get to changing the logical ones when I have time. :)
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Bravo 658 on 2012 Sep 22, 16:33:33
Oh, yay!  I found the 'mark all as read' button.
I'm happy again!
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Liska on 2012 Sep 22, 16:45:49
The Post/Preview buttons have been modified a tad. Better? Worse? :P
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Nala Valor on 2012 Sep 22, 17:11:22
Better
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Sep 22, 19:28:47
might it be possible to make the fonts a bit bigger? x3 I think the margins were smaller in the older format, which (at least for me) kind of helped readability; I have to sort of squint to see things at the moment >.<
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Zygrograxgra on 2012 Sep 22, 21:42:49
Seriously, it really does hurt to read with this style, and adjusting my brightness isn't doing a thing.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Sep 22, 21:46:11
I... don't really like it.  >.< I want the old theme back, please don't hurt me.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Itty Bit on 2012 Sep 22, 22:53:10
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2012 Sep 22, 11:21:20
Quote from: Pinkie Pie on 2012 Sep 22, 10:09:53
Quote from: Book Smarts on 2012 Sep 22, 10:04:57
All I request; is that the nav bar with home,profile, and the others be moved to the middle, instead of completely to the left

Yeah, that'd be nicer..

I don't mind it being on the left.

Hey, those of you who've also been around since EO, does the theme seem a little bit vaguely familiar to any of you? o.O Like... the rainbows, maybe? Or something else?

Ehh, not really. This one looks a lot more like its own thing moreso than a pony fanforum.
That being said, I remember using the Pinkie Pie styled theme the whole time :>
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Julius on 2012 Sep 22, 23:22:31
Spoiler: show
(http://i.imgur.com/ygKbL.jpg)


Small victory! :D
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2012 Sep 23, 00:23:15
This is kinda like whenever Facebook changes. Everyone gets upset, but then everyone gets used to it after a while. lol Except on there, we don't get to make suggestions to make it better.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: CyanideInsanity on 2012 Sep 23, 06:46:17
Looks good to me, the only negative thing I can see about it is getting used to it.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Zaner-Boy on 2012 Sep 23, 07:42:31
Quite honestly, this makes it somewhat hard to read certain text due to the colors. I still think each member should get to choose which style they want to use.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 23, 08:29:11
Quote from: Zaner-Boy on 2012 Sep 23, 07:42:31
Quite honestly, this makes it somewhat hard to read certain text due to the colors. I still think each member should get to choose which style they want to use.

Due to lack of space or at least a space issue, they will not make that kind of choice available.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Zygrograxgra on 2012 Sep 23, 11:42:43
Quote from: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 23, 08:29:11
Quote from: Zaner-Boy on 2012 Sep 23, 07:42:31
Quite honestly, this makes it somewhat hard to read certain text due to the colors. I still think each member should get to choose which style they want to use.

Due to lack of space or at least a space issue, they will not make that kind of choice available.

Then they should use one that most everyone can use without having their eyes BURN OUT OF THEIR SOCKETS.
Spoiler: show
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m15gf9jK2k1r8058ko1_250.gif)
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Bravo 658 on 2012 Sep 23, 12:28:38
I think it's fun!  ...Then again, this is coming from a pony who often explodes.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Tekner on 2012 Sep 23, 13:56:39
Zygro, how is it too bright? This sounds like an issue with your monitor, not with the theme. What are you using as a monitor?
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Zygrograxgra on 2012 Sep 23, 14:14:47
Quote from: Tekner on 2012 Sep 23, 13:56:39
Zygro, how is it too bright? This sounds like an issue with your monitor, not with the theme. What are you using as a monitor?

It's a Mac.
(http://i.imgur.com/iqRYg.jpg)
Sorry if it's too dark, I took the photo with my I-Pod touch.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Tekner on 2012 Sep 23, 14:16:23
Ah, the Imac. Can you take a picture of the forum itself, so I can see?
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Bravo 658 on 2012 Sep 23, 14:18:04
I just gaze into Pinkie's eyes while chews on my computer's video cable.  It's really quite magical; I can see the screen!
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Zygrograxgra on 2012 Sep 23, 14:21:51
Unfortunately it's not gonna show you how bright it really is for me.
I took two photos, one at max and one at min brightness. They're both basically the same thing to the camera for some odd reason.
Spoiler: show
(http://i.imgur.com/MK1vl.jpg)
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: LaptopCommandStation on 2012 Sep 23, 14:38:24
I really don't see a difference in brightness at all, I think the forums look better then before, imo

I've seen some bad forums in my day(FTWGL), this isn't bad, trust me!  :D
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Vick McBread on 2012 Sep 23, 14:49:07
WE LOVE IT! nuff said.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Sep 23, 16:58:59
like I said, my only tiny issue is the font size; I suppose i'll just have to manually zoom in from now on.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Liska on 2012 Sep 23, 17:59:14
Do you mean the default post size?
It honestly was not changed in any way from the last theme, I don't understand the issue.  o.O

Edit: Increased default font size. I'm not sure if this is what you meant or if this makes it better.  :s
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Sep 23, 18:09:28
thanks x3 it kind of helps, I think.  maybe it's because the margins are twice as big as before, or something.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: HerpyDooves on 2012 Sep 23, 20:01:03
I love the new website layout so much!! Good job guys! ;)
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 24, 13:57:22
Maybe better indication of a renamed URL-link.
Only if you look very closely you notice a minor difference.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2012 Sep 24, 14:57:16
Quote from: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 24, 13:57:22
Maybe better indication of a renamed URL-link.
Only if you look very closely you notice a minor difference.

I noticed this as well.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: PrincessButton on 2012 Sep 24, 18:36:30
Quote from: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 24, 13:57:22
Maybe better indication of a renamed URL-link.
Only if you look very closely you notice a minor difference.
^ I second this. I can't tell if a text has a link attached unless I scroll over it.  :\
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Liska on 2012 Sep 24, 18:49:41
Text. Link. (http://forum.legendsofequestria.com)
lulz not sure if better.  :P
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 24, 18:53:38
Quote from: AnyaSmash on 2012 Sep 24, 18:49:41
Text. Link. (http://forum.legendsofequestria.com)

Maybe it's my eyes but if I didn't got the point of that post, I wouldn't have noticed it.

Edit: they or more noticeable when quoted.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Liska on 2012 Sep 24, 18:54:34
I'm messing around with the link style. So I was just using it as a reference. I made all links bold, not sure if this is better. Opinions?
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 24, 18:58:34
jshdhsdflsjsjlqkhx (http://forum.legendsofequestria.com/index.php?action=post;topic=4595.90;last_msg=363696)xsxkslxks

Not yet.

If I might suggest something, underlining them would be quiet helpful I assume.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Sep 24, 18:59:13
The only difference between text and link for me is link is blue-er. Maybe make the difference a biiiiit more noticable?  x3
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Liska on 2012 Sep 24, 19:06:48
Underlining all links looks really bad.
Ctrl + F5 a few times to notice the difference, the links are bold at the moment.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 24, 19:12:01
First of all, in-text it works out perfect.

... And now, you know I don't like being picky but... now every linked name or post outside of the text is bolded as well.
But that's something I can get used to if necessary.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Liska on 2012 Sep 24, 19:13:28
Yes, I don't like that either. o_o
Let me see what I can do.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Sep 24, 19:16:17
*Looks at the "Who's Online."*

*Sees all the bold*

*Falls over*
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Liska on 2012 Sep 24, 19:26:50
Alllllllrighty.
Now all text links in posts and personal messages should be underlined, hooray~!
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 24, 19:27:08
Quote from: Stitchin Time on 2012 Sep 24, 19:16:17
*Looks at the "Who's Online."*

*Sees all the bold*

*Falls over*

That was a bold move from Anya...
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Stitchin Time on 2012 Sep 24, 19:27:48
YAY! Anya earns a cup of tea.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Little Judas on 2012 Sep 24, 19:28:57
...And a biscuit.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: PrincessButton on 2012 Sep 24, 19:29:39
*giggles at all the changes happening to the links and text as she goes from page to page*
:P
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Darkangel on 2012 Sep 25, 00:22:46
I honestly don't know if I like it or not. :P I'm basically neutral about this theme.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: LaptopCommandStation on 2012 Sep 25, 16:52:50
the only thing that's annoying me at the moment is occasionally having to log myself back in  :/
And the infocenter bug i've been wrapping my head around for almost 30 hours now..
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Julius on 2012 Sep 25, 17:06:54
Quote from: LaptopCommandStation on 2012 Sep 25, 16:52:50
the only thing that's annoying me at the moment is occasionally having to log myself back in  :/
And the infocenter bug i've been wrapping my head around for almost 30 hours now..


Me too! I keep touching "Logout" by accident while trying to touch "replies".  :P
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Sep 25, 17:33:34
text is much clearer than before ^-^
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: LaptopCommandStation on 2012 Sep 25, 17:59:48
Quote from: Julius on 2012 Sep 25, 17:06:54
Quote from: LaptopCommandStation on 2012 Sep 25, 16:52:50
the only thing that's annoying me at the moment is occasionally having to log myself back in  :/
And the infocenter bug i've been wrapping my head around for almost 30 hours now..


Me too! I keep touching "Logout" by accident while trying to touch "replies".  :P


My problem is the site doesn't remember me, every 15 minutes or so I need to login again
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Sep 25, 18:54:13
why not just say "log in forever"?
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Julius on 2012 Sep 25, 19:58:22
Quote from: LaptopCommandStation on 2012 Sep 25, 17:59:48
Quote from: Julius on 2012 Sep 25, 17:06:54
Quote from: LaptopCommandStation on 2012 Sep 25, 16:52:50
the only thing that's annoying me at the moment is occasionally having to log myself back in  :/
And the infocenter bug i've been wrapping my head around for almost 30 hours now..


Me too! I keep touching "Logout" by accident while trying to touch "replies".  :P


My problem is the site doesn't remember me, every 15 minutes or so I need to login again


Well I... Derp. :P

However, I do know how to solve your problem (Due to my Derping!).

- Log in.
- Log out.
- Log in again.
- There should now be a box you can check to stay logged forever in the screen where you log in.

If that doesn't work, look around your forum settings!

^-^
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Sep 25, 20:28:08
^

saves much logging in hassles x3  although only if it's a personal computer.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: LaptopCommandStation on 2012 Sep 25, 21:05:56
HAHAHA! 
Spoiler: I fail... • show
(http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii495/LaptopCommandStation/oops.png)
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Sep 25, 21:16:51
:P

what's the difference? x3
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Julius on 2012 Sep 25, 21:23:17
Quote from: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Sep 25, 21:16:51
:P

what's the difference? x3


To get the little box to appear you must do it the way I posted, or by clicking the pink button. Notice how there's no box to check in that image?

(Derp again, I hadn't noticed the pink login button before :P ).
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: LaptopCommandStation on 2012 Sep 25, 22:31:33
Even after checking the box, I had to log in again just now
oh well, i've just have to live with it  :D
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Bravo 658 on 2012 Sep 26, 02:15:17
*le sarcastic smile*
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2012 Sep 30, 10:29:04
I wish I could screenshot on my Kindle Fire (It's kind of a tablet). It seems that when I'm on here on it, the buttons for strikethrough, shadow, text type, and numbered list are black and the underline button is dark purple.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Lusterless Nova on 2012 Sep 30, 14:55:11
Mind if i ask why the font size was increased?
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Julius on 2012 Sep 30, 15:01:51
Quote from: Lusterless Nova on 2012 Sep 30, 14:55:11
Mind if i ask why the font size was increased?


I know someponies may have been having a hard time reading with the new layout, so the text was made a bit bigger. ^-^
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Bravo 658 on 2012 Oct 01, 18:28:51
Look at mah epic font size!!!
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Oct 01, 22:17:39
Quote from: Julius on 2012 Sep 30, 15:01:51
Quote from: Lusterless Nova on 2012 Sep 30, 14:55:11
Mind if i ask why the font size was increased?


I know someponies may have been having a hard time reading with the new layout, so the text was made a bit bigger. ^-^
that was me x3
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: SapphirePony on 2012 Oct 01, 22:18:17
Quote from: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Oct 01, 22:17:39
Quote from: Julius on 2012 Sep 30, 15:01:51
Quote from: Lusterless Nova on 2012 Sep 30, 14:55:11
Mind if i ask why the font size was increased?


I know someponies may have been having a hard time reading with the new layout, so the text was made a bit bigger. ^-^
that was me x3
And me  >.<
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2012 Oct 01, 23:29:43
I like the bigger font. :P I like the new theme.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Bravo 658 on 2012 Oct 01, 23:37:34
I like trai--
*Rainbow Dash stuffs a hoof in my mouth*
Shhh!!!  They hear you... o_O
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Oct 01, 23:42:52
*cough*

overall, the format for the forums is nice.  The main page could be... you know x3

I keep seeing the scroll image at the top and thinking it links to the front page; it would be really helpful, I think? x3
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: PrincessButton on 2012 Oct 01, 23:53:37
Quote from: Bravo 539 on 2012 Oct 01, 23:37:34
I like trai--
*Rainbow Dash stuffs a hoof in my mouth*
Shhh!!!  They hear you... o_O
I see what you did thar.....
very off topic however.  o.O
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Bravo 658 on 2012 Oct 01, 23:54:54
Wait, there's a topic? o.O
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Nala Valor on 2012 Oct 01, 23:57:46
Quote from: Bravo 539 on 2012 Oct 01, 23:54:54
Wait, there's a topic? o.O
*facehoof*
Really! You thought there was no topic?  :/

But on-topic, all those tweaks here and there are making it more enjoyable. Keep on upgrading.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: PrincessButton on 2012 Oct 02, 00:01:19
Quote from: Nala Valor on 2012 Oct 01, 23:57:46
Quote from: Bravo 539 on 2012 Oct 01, 23:54:54
Wait, there's a topic? o.O
*facehoof*
Really! You thought there was no topic?  :/

But on-topic, all those tweaks here and there are making it more enjoyable. Keep on upgrading.
^  :P
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Bravo 658 on 2012 Oct 02, 00:05:55
My bad. :P
*falls over on his side and rolls out of the thread*
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Oct 02, 00:06:46
Quote from: Bravo 539 on 2012 Oct 02, 00:05:55
My bad. :P
*falls over on his side and rolls out of the thread*
Quote from: Pinkie Pie on 2012 Oct 02, 00:01:19
Quote from: Nala Valor on 2012 Oct 01, 23:57:46
Quote from: Bravo 539 on 2012 Oct 01, 23:54:54
Wait, there's a topic? o.O
*facehoof*
Really! You thought there was no topic?  :/

But on-topic, all those tweaks here and there are making it more enjoyable. Keep on upgrading.
^  :P
@Bravo: I suggest re-reading the Forum Rules that Madness posts everywhere x3  We have to stay on topic to avoid a thread getting locked.  The current topic is concerning the Forum Theme; please refer to the first post on the first page of this thread for further information.

And concerning Nala's post, I certainly agree.  The layout seems a bit more "welcoming", although it might be bizarre to new members to the forums.
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: Lord of Madness on 2012 Oct 23, 11:45:20
Quote from: The Wandering Magus on 2012 Oct 02, 00:06:46
Quote from: Bravo 539 on 2012 Oct 02, 00:05:55
My bad. :P
*falls over on his side and rolls out of the thread*
Quote from: Pinkie Pie on 2012 Oct 02, 00:01:19
Quote from: Nala Valor on 2012 Oct 01, 23:57:46
Quote from: Bravo 539 on 2012 Oct 01, 23:54:54
Wait, there's a topic? o.O
*facehoof*
Really! You thought there was no topic?  :/

But on-topic, all those tweaks here and there are making it more enjoyable. Keep on upgrading.
^  :P
@Bravo: I suggest re-reading the Forum Rules that Madness posts everywhere x3  We have to stay on topic to avoid a thread getting locked.  The current topic is concerning the Forum Theme; please refer to the first post on the first page of this thread for further information.

And concerning Nala's post, I certainly agree.  The layout seems a bit more "welcoming", although it might be bizarre to new members to the forums.


I actually had a new member tell me its bizarre LOLOL also lol you told them I post the rules everywhere (i do ^3^)
Title: Re: (New Forum Theme Discussion) MY LITTLE PONIES!!
Post by: GoldenTerrabyte on 2012 Nov 30, 11:40:00
I say, the brighter the better!