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Title: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Crescent Sun on 2016 Feb 14, 20:21:51
As everyone may have noticed, the few times i write around here mostly are because i get overhyped... or because i've discovered something about LoE or MLP.
This time, indeed, I am overhyped! after reading a little leak buried in the Toy Fair presentation.

http://www.equestriadaily.com/2016/02/season-6-of-my-little-pony-arrives-in.html

So... now it's official, in May we'll have the first episode of My little pony on air. But i am not sure about the day or hour..  so... i couldn't help myself and made a countdown to 1 May.

http://www.arewethere.yt/My-Little-Pony/38369.htm

Now is time to get hyped!
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Feb 15, 17:55:43
Did you only make this because you saw my post about this in the Smile thread?  :/



I kid I kid.

Either way it's good to see it's not going to be as long as a wait that it was for S5.

^-^
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Mizuki on 2016 Feb 16, 08:29:47

All aboard the hype train!! toot toot!! :D
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Mar 06, 17:59:09
A new teaser was posted and it starts this month...

Spoiler: show
Starlight?

That's... just... great... (not...)

Well... what am I supposed to do now? I NEVER WANTED TO SEE HER EVER AGAIN. Because she's NOT REDEEMED.

Hmm... well...

Hmm...

I really don't want to leave the fandom...

Hmm...

The teaser did look good otherwise. Maybe the premier will be good enough to the point where NOT REDEEMED character can just be ignored?

That's what I'm hoping for at this point.  :l

Other than that I'm glad to see it's starting even earlier. This month even!!  O:


*The Encounter plays*



THAT'S RIGHT AWAY YOU GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



*throws bombs at everyone*


ovO
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2016 Mar 06, 19:21:32
Quote from: LostSanity on 2016 Mar 06, 17:59:09
A new teaser was posted and it starts this month...

Spoiler: show
Starlight?

That's... just... great... (not...)

Well... what am I supposed to do now? I NEVER WANTED TO SEE HER EVER AGAIN. Because she's NOT REDEEMED.

Hmm... well...

Hmm...

I really don't want to leave the fandom...

Hmm...

The teaser did look good otherwise. Maybe the premier will be good enough to the point where NOT REDEEMED character can just be ignored?

That's what I'm hoping for at this point.  :l

Other than that I'm glad to see it's starting even earlier. This month even!!  O:


*The Encounter plays*



THAT'S RIGHT AWAY YOU GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



*throws bombs at everyone*


ovO

Spoiler: show
Did you notice Starlight's friend was there at the very beginning of the teaser?! Maybe they'll fix that darn plot hole of "Why didn't you just write him letters or something?" Oooh, I hope they do!

Celestia and Luna are doing something! O:

I'm really not sure what to think about the fact that the baby shoots death rays when she sneezes. I kinda hope that's actually important to the plot and not just "Oh how cute/funny! You're supposed to laugh every single time it happens, even though it happens like 20 times in the entire two-parter!"
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Mar 07, 17:53:20
Quote from: Chishio Kunrin on 2016 Mar 06, 19:21:32
Spoiler: show
Did you notice Starlight's friend was there at the very beginning of the teaser?! Maybe they'll fix that darn plot hole of "Why didn't you just write him letters or something?" Oooh, I hope they do!

Celestia and Luna are doing something! O:

I'm really not sure what to think about the fact that the baby shoots death rays when she sneezes. I kinda hope that's actually important to the plot and not just "Oh how cute/funny! You're supposed to laugh every single time it happens, even though it happens like 20 times in the entire two-parter!"



Spoiler: show
I don't see how that will change my opinion on the matter. In fact, I don't think it'll change my opinion on the matter at all.

:s
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Rasy (Flanniest Flan) on 2016 Mar 09, 00:00:18
Spoiler: show
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/sJYoJUIT7yJJ3sMVbKhBTg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9NTQwO2g9MjU0/http://l.yimg.com/cd/diminuendo/1.0/original/b7099b06e28504b046a8721d37dcb1391c964b4b.gif)


SHE STARES INTO YOUR SOUL!
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Mar 20, 18:20:29
Welp... here we go...

I promise I will try to make this the last time I talk about this.

With the season premiering next week... I guess it's time to start hoping that they don't put too much emphasis on the NOT REDEEMED character trying to get people to forgive her.

Because for me... that's likely NEVER going to happen.

If they do...

*sighs*

I don't know what I'll do...

I really don't want to leave the fandom... I really don't...

:'(
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: wingedpineapple on 2016 Mar 20, 20:02:39
-sigh-
It's going to be a long year for glim glim.

Also, an almost-2minutes teaser has been released
Spoiler: show
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Guard120 on 2016 Mar 24, 12:05:15
Quote from: LostSanity on 2016 Mar 20, 18:20:29
Welp... here we go...

I promise I will try to make this the last time I talk about this.

With the season premiering next week... I guess it's time to start hoping that they don't put too much emphasis on the NOT REDEEMED character trying to get people to forgive her.

Because for me... that's likely NEVER going to happen.

If they do...

*sighs*

I don't know what I'll do...

I really don't want to leave the fandom... I really don't...

:'(


I feel your pain, All I saw from season 5 was that Decades of study and devotion meant nothing because they needed a plot device because they couldn't think of anything better. shameful. And through Starlight Glimmer we learnt that vindictive hatred and malice beats the magic of friendship.

I have already made my decision.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: wingedpineapple on 2016 Mar 24, 12:22:18
Quote from: Guard120 on 2016 Mar 24, 12:05:15
I feel your pain, All I saw from season 5 was that Decades of study and devotion meant nothing because they needed a plot device because they couldn't think of anything better. shameful. And through Starlight Glimmer we learnt that vindictive hatred and malice beats the magic of friendship.

I have already made my decision.

Except that nothing of that happened. There was no plot device other that the time traveling, Twilight talked Starlight down. Twilight never used the magic of friendship because she wasn't with her friend, she used her own, as well Starlight never used "hatred and malice" she used her own magic.

If you want to leave,  leave but stop inventing reasons.





Are we gonna get a Season 6 discussion thread or...?
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Guard120 on 2016 Mar 24, 13:49:31
Fine. But if you think its ok for character who bullied and hurt others to be glorified, go ahead.

What if you had been in that situation? What if Starlight Glimmer had bullied you, then left you with emotional or physical pain, possibly for the rest of your life, yet you see her become popular and successful while you are left to pick up the pieces?

They went way too far.

I would argue that everything I have said is valid, but I won't bring up any more here.

I'm done in here and with pony.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: wingedpineapple on 2016 Mar 24, 14:05:33
Quote from: Guard120 on 2016 Mar 24, 13:49:31
Fine. But if you think its ok for character who bullied and hurt others to be glorified, go ahead.

What if you had been in that situation? What if Starlight Glimmer had bullied you, then left you with emotional or physical pain, possibly for the rest of your life, yet you see her become popular and successful while you are left to pick up the pieces?

That's more fair reason to hate Starlight opposite to the contrived ones that you gave before.
That's all I was asking for.
Have a good day.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Maplewood on 2016 Mar 24, 14:12:31
hmm it shall be an intersting  season
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Mar 24, 18:41:53
My opinion on her isn't changing either.

So I kind of understand where @Guard120 is coming from.

I'm giving it a chance but if I'm not pleased by the S6 season finale I'll be taking my leave as well and hopefully moving to the 'Guardians of Harmony' fandom

#CMPunkoftheinternet
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: wingedpineapple on 2016 Mar 24, 19:23:18
I have to ask again.
Is anyone gonna make a season 6 discussion thread or are we gonna use this one?
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: PrincessButton on 2016 Mar 25, 13:58:55
Quote from: wingedpineapple on 2016 Mar 24, 19:23:18
I have to ask again.
Is anyone gonna make a season 6 discussion thread or are we gonna use this one?
I think it's appropriate to use this one, Pine.  ^-^
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Howitzer on 2016 Mar 25, 17:29:28
We're at each other's throats and the season hasn't even started yet.

Looks like it's going to be a big one.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Mar 25, 17:56:14
Quote from: Howitzer on 2016 Mar 25, 17:29:28
We're at each other's throats and the season hasn't even started yet.

Looks like it's going to be a big one.


Which wouldn't be happening if they stopped redeeming characters that don't deserve to be redeemed.

:s
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: wingedpineapple on 2016 Mar 25, 18:33:50
Quote from: LostSanity on 2016 Mar 25, 17:56:14
Which wouldn't be happening if they stopped redeeming characters that don't deserve to be redeemed.

I've come to the conclusion that just want to have this discussion over and over.




Quote from: Howitzer on 2016 Mar 25, 17:29:28
We're at each other's throats and the season hasn't even started yet.

Looks like it's going to be a big one.

You have no idea.




On a more informative note:
Spoiler: About Glim Glim • show

Jim said in EqD that her role should be clear after the premiere.
So, let's see what happens with her tomorrow
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Howitzer on 2016 Mar 25, 23:38:20
Quote from: wingedpineapple on 2016 Mar 25, 18:33:50
I've come to the conclusion that just want to have this discussion over and over.


Wars do not end until there is a winner.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: wingedpineapple on 2016 Mar 25, 23:55:20
Quote from: Howitzer on 2016 Mar 25, 23:38:20
Wars do not end until there is a winner.

I don't know why but I read a winter :v
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: McClaw on 2016 Mar 26, 09:10:57
Quote from: Howitzer on 2016 Mar 25, 23:38:20
Wars do not end until there is a winner.

There are no winners, only survivors.

And the thread title is wrong, as it's due in March. (Corrected for my post.)
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Midnight Breeze on 2016 Mar 26, 12:15:54
Quote from: McClaw on 2016 Mar 26, 09:10:57
There are no winners, only survivors.


Nonsense. Empires that win great wars emerge more powerful than ever.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: wingedpineapple on 2016 Mar 26, 13:40:02
Spoiler: About the episode • show

Plot conveniences: The episode.
I found it funny regardless.
Starlight/Sunburst subplot was kind of nice, seems like Sunburst is good at learning but not at executing.
Starlight seems to be as unstable as I was expecting I hope they keep that.
Spike a good supporting character as always.

Twilight remembering a spell after reading it once, now that's a good memory not like me who forgets stuff pretty easily :v
Tired Shining Armor was definitly the best parts of the episode for me :v
That's all.


Spoiler: About Starlight's role • show

As Jim said her role is pretty clear.
She appears in the intro and she is living with Twilight as her new pupil.
She is main character but I wouldn't call it a mane7 as I would with the humane7
So far she seems to be as important as Spike.


Spoiler: Something in the background at the end • show

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1NsBMTtDGeM/VvayDCO99hI/AAAAAAAACfA/aI0hbC5Et5stm5NsNRl-EWaGXp9o8ZGyA/s1600/Season%2B6%2Bpremiere%2Bmystery.png)
Is it a changeling holding something? Maybe a baby?
Foreshadowing?
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Pipkin on 2016 Mar 26, 15:04:46
Just posting to change the title of the thread, so someone doesn't go off making another one.

While I'm here, friendly reminder to anyone posting about any new-airing episodes, as per our rules please keep any discussions regarding new content in spoiler tags until the Monday after the episode aired.

Thanks and happy ponying!
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Mar 26, 18:37:05
I'm going back to working weekends and I'm going to have too many DVR recordings to watch on Sundays. So I decided to get myself to get used to doing it on Saturdays instead.

What am I talking about? I watched the premier today of course. Instead of on Sundays like I normally do. This is for the best since I'll be working weekends again after this weekend and I'd might as well get used to it.

How I feel about this should be quite obvious. However, either way, for obvious reasons I will put in spoilers. With a simple warning:

Read at your own risk. Because this shouldn't surprise anyone. In fact, most probably won't like this. So either read it and then ignore it and don't respond to it, or don't read it at all.

Spoiler: show
Oh look. It's NOT REEDEMED character. NOPE. GO AWAY NOW.

She's not going away... this is going to be a LONG episode...  :l

I'm waiting for content I don't have to ignore...

NOPE. STILL NOT FORGIVEN. GO BACK TO YOUR HOLE AND ROT IN IT.   >:/

Don't teach her anything. She doesn't deserve it.  :\

Still waiting for content... Part of me begins to hope she FAILS.

Crystal Empire. The baby alicorn that I decided to overlook because it was took cute to hate. Yep. Still feel that way. Her magic is... scary...  :I

Plus she can fly. As a baby. I now feel sorry for Scootaloo.  :')

STOP SHOWING NOT REDEEMED CHARACTER. STOP EXPECTING PEOPLE TO FORGIVE HER.   >:O

God... I was FORCING myself through this. I'm not even kidding here. I hate FORCING myself to do ANYTHING.

Sunburst is an interesting character. However her excuse for everything she did is still ridiculous. I don't care if she regrets what she did. Go die in a hole as punishment. No I'm not joking. She needs to go in a hole and die in it.  :l

The baby causes the problem. Awkward but somehow not surprising.  :s

So... am I supposed to forgive NOT REDEEMED character just because she helped to restore the Crystal Heart? lolnope. Not even close.  :P

Not surprisingly NOT REDEEMED character and her friend are the key to resolving the issue. Which... I suppose isn't surprising.

*sighs*

Sorry. I really am. But...

WORST SEASON PREMIER EVER.

Too much emphasis on trying to get people to forgive NOT REDEEMED character, which for me, will NEVER happen.

This... isn't the start I wanted. It's not looking good for my future in the fandom.

There were a couple of funny moments and I liked the Flurry Heart antics. That's about all I can say about it.

With that... I wait for episode 3 and hope it's MUCH better.


:s
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Stardust Dragon on 2016 Mar 27, 04:17:40
Spoiler: show
Overall I liked the opener, but I'm still hesitant on Starlight, and I can't quite tell why.  I feel like it's partially because I have lingering thoughts on Sunset Shimmer, who I've been able to grow to like for far longer than Starlight at this point.  I think I feel upset that she's not getting the "Twilight's pupil" role when I feel like she's already earned it.  And no, I won't take "but that was the EQG movie verse" argument, because those movies are trying to tie themselves into the series proper.  Sunset was a valid candidate in my book.

That said, nothing Starlight Glimmer did in this episode worsened my opinion of her.  I didn't see anything to make me think she was falling back to old habits, just a fairly natural hesitation to rekindle old friendships that I know a little too well, and using whatever excuses she could to avoid it.  I do hope that she can redeem herself in my eyes...but for the time being, I feel like she needs to be a side plot at best.  Rather not see her every episode just hanging out all chill after she royally mucked with all life in Equestria for what's really and truly a petty reason.

And final note, how they wrote up Flurry Heart's name into the story: I swear there's times I feel like I'm somewhat psychic or something, because I wrote out my OC Winter Whisper getting her name in a similar way, at least several months to a year ago, and have never posted that description anywhere.  :I
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Dawnstar on 2016 Mar 27, 09:41:41
Guessing this is turning into the season 6 discussion thread?

Spoiler: In regards to Equestria Girls • show
I've actually heard the opposite that they're trying do distance EQG from the main show. If that really is the case then Starlight does seem to be the pony world response to Sunset character role-wise. And on that note, I honestly, really don't see Sunset returning to Equestria in the actual show itself anymore. She might do it some time in one of the movies, but I seriously doubt she will in the show.

To be honest it's going to be very hard to keep EQG consistent with the main show chronologically anyway if the show keeps moving along like it has. Roughly six months were skipped between seasons 5 and 6 which leaves very little time left in whatever part of the school year the EQG world currently is in. If EQG keeps tying itself into the season finales like it has in the previous movies, and if the girls are in their senior year of high school, then that means there is very little time left before they would have to graduate to keep things consistent between worlds.

If the main show skips ahead another year and the girls from EQG are still in high school after that then there is no viable way I could consider it canon to the main show anymore.


Spoiler: On to the fun stuff I learned from the season 6 opener • show

The Crystal Empire is a self-sustaining city completely surrounded by snowy wasteland (figured it was just a cold region/winter season in previous appearances)

The Everfree Forest is no longer the only region of the world where the weather does what it wants, but in the Frozen North the weather is so strong it can even overwhelm two powerful Alicorns. This leads me to believe that the nation of Equestria is the only place in the world where the weather is controlled unless other nations have ways of controlling it.

Princess Celestia and princess Luna, the two longest-lived Alicorns we know about, have never heard of a pony actually being born an Alicorn in all their time ruling over Equestria, and that such a thing is beyond even their understanding. If you think about that for a moment that means it is extremely likely that they too were born as regular ponies and ascended like Cadence and Twilight.

That last one's a bit of a doozy and really makes me hope that the writers actually delve into Alicorn backstory lore this season.

I didn't mind too much how Starlight was portrayed in the episode. Since we skipped from "we're having a baby" to "we're parents" between seasons then a good six or more months have been skipped over between seasons. This has given the mane 6 a lot of time to get to know Starlight behind the scenes which would probably explain why they were so relaxed around her.

What I'm looking for in Starlight now is some good insight into "how she has changed for the better in those six months" to make her quick redemption a bit easier to accept.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: wingedpineapple on 2016 Mar 27, 10:12:01
Quote from: Dawnstar on 2016 Mar 27, 09:41:41
Guessing this is turning into the season 6 discussion thread?

Yes
Quote from: Princess Darcy on 2016 Mar 26, 15:04:46
Just posting to change the title of the thread, so someone doesn't go off making another one.

I don't know why the title changed back.




Spoiler: About EqG • show

Just like with the comics they try to not make direct references in the show, the closer you are gonna find is Flash cameo (EqG) and Babs cutiemark ("Foreshadowed" in the Comics)

Spoiler: About the Alicorn role • show

Celestia says "The birth of an Alicorn is something Equestria has never seen!"
There is an official book that says they both come from an alicorn land and not Equestria.
But then again the writers can not use that, be just inconsistent or let this the last reference we are gonna get of the alicorn lore, I guess we can just wait and see.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: McClaw on 2016 Mar 27, 10:49:02
Quote from: wingedpineapple on 2016 Mar 27, 10:12:01
Yes I don't know why the title changed back.

Forum mechanics. If you reply ("quote") a post, it uses that post's subject for yours (making sure "Re:" is in front). But just using "reply" at the bottom doesn't; it either uses the subject of the first post or the most recent post or maybe a name registered for the thread. (It depends on the way the forum software is written.)

You can edit your post's subject to whatever you want.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Dawnstar on 2016 Mar 27, 11:06:31
Quote from: wingedpineapple on 2016 Mar 27, 10:12:01
Spoiler: About EqG • show

Just like with the comics they try to not make direct references in the show, the closer you are gonna find is Flash cameo (EqG) and Babs cutiemark ("Foreshadowed" in the Comics)

Spoiler: About the Alicorn role • show

Celestia says "The birth of an Alicorn is something Equestria has never seen!"
There is an official book that says they both come from an alicorn land and not Equestria.
But then again the writers can not use that, be just inconsistent or let this the last reference we are gonna get of the alicorn lore, I guess we can just wait and see.


Spoiler: show
I do have that book and actually the Alicorn land they came from was the city of Canterlot itself. However, show canon does trump other canon if there is a conflict of continuity.

Also, there is Luna's statement that "It is beyond even our understanding." Celestia's comment is vague enough to wave off, but Luna's implies they have no experience with an Alicorn birth at all.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: wingedpineapple on 2016 Mar 27, 11:14:12
Quote from: McClaw on 2016 Mar 27, 10:49:02
Forum mechanics. If you reply ("quote") a post, it uses that post's subject for yours (making sure "Re:" is in front). But just using "reply" at the bottom doesn't; it either uses the subject of the first post or the most recent post or maybe a name registered for the thread. (It depends on the way the forum software is written.)

You can edit your post's subject to whatever you want.

Ok then.




Quote from: Dawnstar on 2016 Mar 27, 11:06:31
Spoiler: show
I do have that book and actually the Alicorn land they came from was the city of Canterlot itself. However, show canon does trump other canon if there is a conflict of continuity.

Also, there is Luna's statement that "It is beyond even our understanding." Celestia's comment is vague enough to wave off, but Luna's implies they have no experience with an Alicorn birth at all.


Spoiler: show
Then the writers probably just wanted to avoid the subject for waving it off, either because they are planning something for later/the movie, they don't know what to do with the lore yet or they want to keep it a mystery.

Also, from Amy Keating Rogers
https://twitter.com/KeatingRogers/status/713887118448177154?lang=es
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Dawnstar on 2016 Mar 27, 11:46:56
Spoiler: show
I am hoping they elaborate on Alicorn lore this season, but I will admit they have been dancing around making anything canon for a while now.

The way Luna's comment was worded though is what has me thinking of possible implications.

That tweet seems to be related to the book though so if they do decide to change the canon in the show then that's their choice. Though it would be sad to see one of the few sources of Alicorn lore become invalidated like that unless they actually do expand upon it in the show finally.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Maplewood on 2016 Mar 27, 12:26:24
considering the season started yesterday  I'm surprised  that someone  has mentioned that
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Pipkin on 2016 Mar 27, 15:14:34
Quote from: McClaw on 2016 Mar 27, 10:49:02
Forum mechanics. If you reply ("quote") a post, it uses that post's subject for yours (making sure "Re:" is in front). But just using "reply" at the bottom doesn't; it either uses the subject of the first post or the most recent post or maybe a name registered for the thread. (It depends on the way the forum software is written.)

You can edit your post's subject to whatever you want.


I also changed the OP title....let's see how many time stuff needs to be edited before it finally stays Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: PrincessButton on 2016 Mar 27, 16:06:42
Quote from: Princess Darcy on 2016 Mar 27, 15:14:34
I also changed the OP title....let's see how many time stuff needs to be edited before it finally stays Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
You got it, Darcy. :)
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Midnight Breeze on 2016 Mar 29, 02:38:47
Quote from: wingedpineapple on 2016 Mar 27, 11:14:12
Spoiler: show
Then the writers probably just wanted to avoid the subject for waving it off, either because they are planning something for later/the movie, they don't know what to do with the lore yet or they want to keep it a mystery.



Spoiler: show

Sounds like a classic case of writers retconning random lore when they've run out of ideas.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Icy Shield on 2016 Apr 01, 08:40:40
Quote from: LostSanity on 2016 Mar 26, 18:37:05
I'm going back to working weekends and I'm going to have too many DVR recordings to watch on Sundays. So I decided to get myself to get used to doing it on Saturdays instead.

What am I talking about? I watched the premier today of course. Instead of on Sundays like I normally do. This is for the best since I'll be working weekends again after this weekend and I'd might as well get used to it.

How I feel about this should be quite obvious. However, either way, for obvious reasons I will put in spoilers. With a simple warning:

Read at your own risk. Because this shouldn't surprise anyone. In fact, most probably won't like this. So either read it and then ignore it and don't respond to it, or don't read it at all.

Spoiler: show
Oh look. It's NOT REEDEMED character. NOPE. GO AWAY NOW.

She's not going away... this is going to be a LONG episode...  :l

I'm waiting for content I don't have to ignore...

NOPE. STILL NOT FORGIVEN. GO BACK TO YOUR HOLE AND ROT IN IT.   >:/

Don't teach her anything. She doesn't deserve it.  :\

Still waiting for content... Part of me begins to hope she FAILS.

Crystal Empire. The baby alicorn that I decided to overlook because it was took cute to hate. Yep. Still feel that way. Her magic is... scary...  :I

Plus she can fly. As a baby. I now feel sorry for Scootaloo.  :')

STOP SHOWING NOT REDEEMED CHARACTER. STOP EXPECTING PEOPLE TO FORGIVE HER.   >:O

God... I was FORCING myself through this. I'm not even kidding here. I hate FORCING myself to do ANYTHING.

Sunburst is an interesting character. However her excuse for everything she did is still ridiculous. I don't care if she regrets what she did. Go die in a hole as punishment. No I'm not joking. She needs to go in a hole and die in it.  :l

The baby causes the problem. Awkward but somehow not surprising.  :s

So... am I supposed to forgive NOT REDEEMED character just because she helped to restore the Crystal Heart? lolnope. Not even close.  :P

Not surprisingly NOT REDEEMED character and her friend are the key to resolving the issue. Which... I suppose isn't surprising.

*sighs*

Sorry. I really am. But...

WORST SEASON PREMIER EVER.

Too much emphasis on trying to get people to forgive NOT REDEEMED character, which for me, will NEVER happen.

This... isn't the start I wanted. It's not looking good for my future in the fandom.

There were a couple of funny moments and I liked the Flurry Heart antics. That's about all I can say about it.

With that... I wait for episode 3 and hope it's MUCH better.


:s



Spoiler: show
 yeah, that is 1 of 3 reasons why this start of S6 I really hate and considering Starlight Glimmer gonna be 7th main character?Oh, god NO....

The other 2 reasons would be: Flurry Heart beaing an alicorns. I have nothing against her, but she complete destroyed headcanon that only natural alicorns are immortal. I thought Celestia and Luna were special, I thought they were naturally born alicorns! Even Luna said was suprised and said they they never seen this happening before... I'm literally destroyed inside... And speaking of royal sisters. Celestia and Luna dissapointed me. Even together they could barealy hold and failed in the end to hold snow storm. Are they really that weak? How did Twilight even beat Tirek in S4 if even combine power of 2 alicorns is not enough to stop blizzard?
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: wingedpineapple on 2016 Apr 01, 11:44:11
Quote from: Icy Shield on 2016 Apr 01, 08:40:40
Spoiler: show

The other 2 reasons would be: Flurry Heart beaing an alicorns. I have nothing against her, but she complete destroyed headcanon that only natural alicorns are immortal. I thought Celestia and Luna were special, I thought they were naturally born alicorns! Even Luna said was suprised and said they they never seen this happening before... I'm literally destroyed inside... And speaking of royal sisters. Celestia and Luna dissapointed me. Even together they could barealy hold and failed in the end to hold snow storm. Are they really that weak? How did Twilight even beat Tirek in S4 if even combine power of 2 alicorns is not enough to stop blizzard?


Spoiler: show

M8, they were defeated by a love bug, a slime and a PLANT, plot convenience is a thing but I'm surprised it took you too long to realize they are used as "Hey, look this powerful ponies, they were defeated by this thing now you know that it's a serious thing!".
Unfortunately, this premiere had more plot conveniences than usual.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Apr 01, 17:46:43
Quote from: Icy Shield on 2016 Apr 01, 08:40:40
Spoiler: show
 yeah, that is 1 of 3 reasons why this start of S6 I really hate and considering Starlight Glimmer gonna be 7th main character?Oh, god NO....

The other 2 reasons would be: Flurry Heart beaing an alicorns. I have nothing against her, but she complete destroyed headcanon that only natural alicorns are immortal. I thought Celestia and Luna were special, I thought they were naturally born alicorns! Even Luna said was suprised and said they they never seen this happening before... I'm literally destroyed inside... And speaking of royal sisters. Celestia and Luna dissapointed me. Even together they could barealy hold and failed in the end to hold snow storm. Are they really that weak? How did Twilight even beat Tirek in S4 if even combine power of 2 alicorns is not enough to stop blizzard?



You and I should be friends. Seriously. I can't seem to find anyone who has a similar opinion to mine when it comes to NOT REDEEMED character.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: wingedpineapple on 2016 Apr 01, 23:45:57
Quote from: LostSanity on 2016 Apr 01, 17:46:43
You and I should be friends. Seriously. I can't seem to find anyone who has a similar opinion to mine when it comes to NOT REDEEMED character.

What about Guard120?
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Dawnstar on 2016 Apr 02, 00:11:47
Quote from: Icy Shield on 2016 Apr 01, 08:40:40
Spoiler: show
 yeah, that is 1 of 3 reasons why this start of S6 I really hate and considering Starlight Glimmer gonna be 7th main character?Oh, god NO....

The other 2 reasons would be: Flurry Heart beaing an alicorns. I have nothing against her, but she complete destroyed headcanon that only natural alicorns are immortal. I thought Celestia and Luna were special, I thought they were naturally born alicorns! Even Luna said was suprised and said they they never seen this happening before... I'm literally destroyed inside... And speaking of royal sisters. Celestia and Luna dissapointed me. Even together they could barealy hold and failed in the end to hold snow storm. Are they really that weak? How did Twilight even beat Tirek in S4 if even combine power of 2 alicorns is not enough to stop blizzard?


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I don't consider her to be the 7th main character at all.

A character who was only recently introduced, as a villain no less, and is rather suddenly redeemed can not be considered on the same character level as a primary cast that has 5 seasons of development behind them.

Yeah she's Twilight's pupil now, but at best she'll get put in a "major supporting character" role like Discord and Spike, but with more screen time than the former and likely less than the latter.

As for the blizzard. It required a powerful magic artifact to hold back the weather of the Frozen North. This means the weather that far north is a lot like the weather of the Everfree Forest in that the ponies are unable to control it. Except the northern weather is like Everfree's on steroids.

Granted, with how many times Celestia and Luna have been missing or incapacitated it does cheapen their roles as "guardians of Equestria" even if it was the first time they actually did something useful against the "threat" this time.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Icy Shield on 2016 Apr 02, 08:01:16
Quote from: LostSanity on 2016 Apr 01, 17:46:43
You and I should be friends. Seriously. I can't seem to find anyone who has a similar opinion to mine when it comes to NOT REDEEMED character.


I guess not many want to talk on negative aspects of the show or just simply ignore it. Or maybe just don't care as long as there cute ponies on the screen.

Post Merge

Quote from: Dawnstar on 2016 Apr 02, 00:11:47
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I don't consider her to be the 7th main character at all.

A character who was only recently introduced, as a villain no less, and is rather suddenly redeemed can not be considered on the same character level as a primary cast that has 5 seasons of development behind them.

Yeah she's Twilight's pupil now, but at best she'll get put in a "major supporting character" role like Discord and Spike, but with more screen time than the former and likely less than the latter.

As for the blizzard. It required a powerful magic artifact to hold back the weather of the Frozen North. This means the weather that far north is a lot like the weather of the Everfree Forest in that the ponies are unable to control it. Except the northern weather is like Everfree's on steroids.

Granted, with how many times Celestia and Luna have been missing or incapacitated it does cheapen their roles as "guardians of Equestria" even if it was the first time they actually did something useful against the "threat" this time.



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 Well of course you couldn't hold blizzard forever even if you're alicorn thats why crystal heart artifact was for. But Cadance on her own held a barrier against blizzard (evil shadow blizzard?) that brought king Sombra for full 1 day or more.

I thought writters intentionaly were making royal sister missing or disarmed for sake of moving story plot otherwise it would have been a short episode of royal sisters defeating evil with 1 or 2 powerfull spells. I was waiting for moment where they could shine and save the day (especially for Celestia). Yeaaahhh...Gods they are not. Not even demi-gods if they keep that way.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: McClaw on 2016 Apr 02, 09:44:37
Quote from: wingedpineapple on 2016 Apr 01, 11:44:11
Spoiler: show

M8, they were defeated by a love bug, a slime and a PLANT, plot convenience is a thing but I'm surprised it took you too long to realize they are used as "Hey, look this powerful ponies, they were defeated by this thing now you know that it's a serious thing!".
Unfortunately, this premiere had more plot conveniences than usual.


Spoiler: show
Also known as the Worf Effect (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffect).

Warning: TV Tropes link in the spoiler!
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Dawnstar on 2016 Apr 02, 11:28:19
Quote from: Icy Shield on 2016 Apr 02, 08:01:16
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 Well of course you couldn't hold blizzard forever even if you're alicorn thats why crystal heart artifact was for. But Cadance on her own held a barrier against blizzard (evil shadow blizzard?) that brought king Sombra for full 1 day or more.

I thought writters intentionaly were making royal sister missing or disarmed for sake of moving story plot otherwise it would have been a short episode of royal sisters defeating evil with 1 or 2 powerfull spells. I was waiting for moment where they could shine and save the day (especially for Celestia). Yeaaahhh...Gods they are not. Not even demi-gods if they keep that way.


Spoiler: show
Cadence wasn't holding back the Frozen North's weather though. She was just holding back King Sombra.

The Crystal Heart was not damaged or destroyed when the Crystal Empire returned. It was just hidden at the top of the palace spire, but was otherwise in perfect working condition which meant that it was still holding back the weather of the Frozen North as well.

When Sombra finally made it inside the city the blizzard didn't follow him.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: wingedpineapple on 2016 Apr 02, 15:09:08
Quote from: Icy Shield on 2016 Apr 02, 08:01:16
I guess not many want to talk on negative aspects of the show or just simply ignore it. Or maybe just don't care as long as there cute ponies on the screen.

You have to remember that not everyone see Starlight's redemption as something negative.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Howitzer on 2016 Apr 02, 15:52:38
Spoiler: In regards to today's episode • show
(http://i.imgur.com/WX8FlJq.png)(http://i.imgur.com/04HXeGi.png)
YEEEESSSSSSSS

That's about all I have to say for it.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Icy Shield on 2016 Apr 02, 18:00:25
Quote from: Dawnstar on 2016 Apr 02, 11:28:19
Spoiler: show
Cadence wasn't holding back the Frozen North's weather though. She was just holding back King Sombra.

The Crystal Heart was not damaged or destroyed when the Crystal Empire returned. It was just hidden at the top of the palace spire, but was otherwise in perfect working condition which meant that it was still holding back the weather of the Frozen North as well.

When Sombra finally made it inside the city the blizzard didn't follow him.


 
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 But still it's just a blizzard. Shouldn't be impossible for powerfull alicorn (especially if there is 2 of them) to hold for atleast 1 day. I bet Discord could have hold blizzard for as long as he wanted, considering he could manipulate the reality and laws of physics
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Apr 02, 18:33:50
Honestly... there's not much for me to say about this episode... however...

Unlike before, this shouldn't be as bad as my previous thoughts were.  :s

Either way you should all know the drill by now. Here are my thought for S6E3.

Spoiler: show
THANK GO. THOUSANDS OF TIMES BETTER THAN THE PREMIER.

PINKIE ANTICS.

MAUD ALWAYS MAKES EPISODES AMAZING.


Plus Rarity had her funny moments as well.

Pinkie's sacrifice for Maud actually made me a little sad...  :')

The moral/lesson was a little on the 'obvious' side (gifts being more about love than being amazing) but that really didn't matter to me.

MAUD IS GOOD AT EVERYTHING. SERIOUSLY.

She can guilt-trip people into reveal stuff to her and can get items back with her Maud-ness? I don't know but she's AMAZINGlol

SO MUCH BETTER THAN PREMIER.

AMAZING episode.

My fandom status has been reinvigorated once again!!

If they can continue episodes like this, I won't leave the fandom.  ^-^


So... there you go...  :s




QuoteWhat about Guard120?


I suppose so but he left the fandom... so...  :s

QuoteI guess not many want to talk on negative aspects of the show or just simply ignore it. Or maybe just don't care as long as there cute ponies on the screen.


*nods head in approval*
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Stardust Dragon on 2016 Apr 02, 23:34:03
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Personally I'm glad that this at least twisted the "Gift of the Magi" story I'm kind of tired of hearing (and/or expect more unusual plots or twists from this series), and it was actually a very nice lesson in the end.  I know I have issues buying gifts for my dad on occasion.

Also, I swear Rarity picked out the Littlest Pet Shop...shop, for her new boutique.  I might be overthinking it, but if I'm not it's a cute reference to the staff that the two shows share.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Midnight Breeze on 2016 Apr 05, 05:41:53
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I gotta say, from a logical standpoint they picked the worst city imaginable for this plot.

Manehatten is a metropolis, what are the odds that there's only one shop in the entire city that sells that particular product? Pretty close to zero. Could have just taken a taxi 4 blocks down the road to the next closest bag shop.

Ehh...disregard me. My INTP is showing again.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: wingedpineapple on 2016 Apr 09, 14:01:12
Spoiler: Episode 4 • show
And a new ship was born.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Apr 09, 18:38:19
S6E4 thoughts incoming.

*insert warning here?*

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Wow.

Once again, there's not really much for me to say about this episode.

To be completely honest... this was the kind of episode I was hoping for once the CMC got their cutie marks.

Them struggling on what they're supposed to do now that they have them. So this was just the perfect episode.

Admittedly I was worried the CMC would basically have no purpose once they received their cutie marks but this episode showed me that I was sorely mistaken.

Bulk Biceps made this funny quite hilarious. There were other funny moments too. Like when they tried to find stuff to do together and kept failing at it.  lol

Not surprising, Apple Bloom struggling to find something to do on her own led to her finding the problem they needed to assist in.

I actually kind of like that they're helping other ponies either find their cutie marks or help them determine their cutie marks true meaning. Most CMC episodes have been kind of 'iffy' for me but that may possibly change now and I may actually start to like them more now.  X3

Also... inb4 people ship Apple Bloom with that performing colt.  :l

Either way... this was quite the surprisingly decent CMC episode.

:)
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Icy Shield on 2016 Apr 11, 07:08:14
Quote from: Midnight Breeze on 2016 Apr 05, 05:41:53
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I gotta say, from a logical standpoint they picked the worst city imaginable for this plot.

Manehatten is a metropolis, what are the odds that there's only one shop in the entire city that sells that particular product? Pretty close to zero. Could have just taken a taxi 4 blocks down the road to the next closest bag shop.

Ehh...disregard me. My INTP is showing again.



Spoiler: show
Speaking of Manehatten. Always when I see it in the show, it feels so out of place. We got Canterlot, Crystal Empire, Ponyvile and many other towns with interesting/fantasy style town design and then...modern big city from real life :l . Doesn't fit to overall MLP designs that was intreduced in the show. I wonder if Las Peasuses will the same? I hope not
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: McClaw on 2016 Apr 11, 08:45:04
Quote from: Icy Shield on 2016 Apr 11, 07:08:14
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Speaking of Manehatten. Always when I see it in the show, it feels so out of place. We got Canterlot, Crystal Empire, Ponyvile and many other towns with interesting/fantasy style town design and then...modern big city from real life :l . Doesn't fit to overall MLP designs that was intreduced in the show. I wonder if Las Peasuses will the same? I hope not


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Manehatten may not have the same fantasy elements as the other prominent locations, but it does tend to reflect how major urban areas such as London and New York City looked in the 19th century -- which is the period Lauren was going for when designing Ponyville.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Icy Shield on 2016 Apr 11, 11:42:16
Quote from: McClaw on 2016 Apr 11, 08:45:04
Spoiler: show
Manehatten may not have the same fantasy elements as the other prominent locations, but it does tend to reflect how major urban areas such as London and New York City looked in the 19th century -- which is the period Lauren was going for when designing Ponyville.



Spoiler: show
 You mean 20th century? I'm pretty sure 19th century looked a bit different. And still what's the point  adding it to show? It breaks the whole atmosphere and looks a bit too bizarre. I think 18th century city designs would fit better
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2016 Apr 11, 18:41:25
Quote from: Icy Shield on 2016 Apr 11, 11:42:16
Spoiler: show
 You mean 20th century? I'm pretty sure 19th century looked a bit different. And still what's the point  adding it to show? It breaks the whole atmosphere and looks a bit too bizarre. I think 18th century city designs would fit better


They really want Equestria to be somewhat based on the USA in design, it seems.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Midnight Breeze on 2016 Apr 11, 19:17:01
Quote from: Icy Shield on 2016 Apr 11, 11:42:16
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 You mean 20th century? I'm pretty sure 19th century looked a bit different. And still what's the point  adding it to show? It breaks the whole atmosphere and looks a bit too bizarre. I think 18th century city designs would fit better



You realize new york wasnt built overnight,  right?  Thats how it looked in the 1800s. Just because a city has skyscrapers doesnt mean its super modern.

Furthermore,  if anything ponyville is even more modern than manehatten.  Just because they have more traditional architecture doesnt mean anything,  havent you noticed how usonian the interiors of their houses look?  Modern furniture?  Ceiling fans? Electric lighting? 

Come on, man. Even since season one weve been seeing factories with assembly lines and robotics,  hospitals with telemetry and x ray,  theatres with modern sound equipment and stage lighting,  modern coffee shops,  bakeries,  and restaurants....

If youve been thinking this show was set in the rennassance era all this time then you havent been paying much atrention,  im just saying...
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: McClaw on 2016 Apr 12, 09:09:59
Modern/historic was an issue for Lauren Faust, too. She wanted a 19th century (1800s) look, with the big disparity between urban and rural areas (which could seem a century or more behind the cities). Which would also mean a period of rapid change, something that might mask the use of magic instead of electricity or other technology for things.

But Hasbro and other executives wanted to include contemporary things like refrigerators (instead of iceboxes) so the audience wouldn't be left wondering about the old devices.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Icy Shield on 2016 Apr 12, 17:09:06
Quote from: Midnight Breeze on 2016 Apr 11, 19:17:01
You realize new york wasnt built overnight,  right?  Thats how it looked in the 1800s. Just because a city has skyscrapers doesnt mean its super modern.

Furthermore,  if anything ponyville is even more modern than manehatten.  Just because they have more traditional architecture doesnt mean anything,  havent you noticed how usonian the interiors of their houses look?  Modern furniture?  Ceiling fans? Electric lighting? 

Come on, man. Even since season one weve been seeing factories with assembly lines and robotics,  hospitals with telemetry and x ray,  theatres with modern sound equipment and stage lighting,  modern coffee shops,  bakeries,  and restaurants....

If youve been thinking this show was set in the rennassance era all this time then you havent been paying much atrention,  im just saying...


I know...It's hard to explain, but i just don't feel that magic and atmosphere that I ussualy get from different episodes. Like some gray dull walls squeezing me. I don't think I like this  :c
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Stardust Dragon on 2016 Apr 16, 18:01:43
Today's episode:
Spoiler: show
 Am I the only person who saw/heard Princess Ember and immediately had this come to mind?


Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Apr 16, 18:33:37
Hi. Yeah it's me again. You should all know the mantra by now. So here come my thoughts for S6E5.

Spoiler: show
This is starting to become a trend now. I'm unsure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

Either way... I once again don't really have much to say about this one.

First off, it may have only been for a few moments, but, I liked seeing Princess Luna and Princess Celestia. BEST:D

Now... on to the episode...

It was good to see the Dragonlands again. Twilight may... get giddy when to comes to stuff she doesn't know and the idea of finding out more (which is always funny  lol ) but she was right. There isn't a lot known about dragons and it was good to see it expanded on further.

Of course... that also meant jerk Garble again.  :l

But stuff kept happening to him in this episode that was freaking GREAT. He kept getting hurt and stuff.  lol

Let me talk about Ember for a moment now. That name is actually familiar. Because it was used in the Spyro series. She also reminds me of a Spyro character as well. Named Cynder. (Yes, I'm aware of the Spyro series because I pretty much watched all of the games on YouTube in Let's Play format) which I actually kind of liked...  ^-^

This episode was actually pretty decent. It's rare to get a decent Spike episode and this was one. It was good to see more dragons and their 'characters.'

It became cute with the relationship of Spike and Ember and Ember not wanting to be friends but not reporting Twilight and Rarity to the other dragons.

I mean it wasn't 'outstanding' or 'amazing' or 'extraordinary' but I still quite liked this episode.

SPIKE WON. ALL HAIL DRAGON LORD SPIKE.  O: 

GARBLE HUMILIATION. That one dragon liked the hug too.  lol

NO WAIT. DON'T LEAVE THE GROUP.   :'(

The ending wasn't exactly surprising but still good.

A decent Spike episode IMO. But that's just me.

:)

Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: wingedpineapple on 2016 Apr 16, 23:08:06
Spoiler: Episode 5 • show

Seems like many people liked it, at least compared to other spike episodes.
My only complaint is that Rarity and Twilight scenes in the episode felt awkward.


Spoiler: Next episode • show

I heard next episode is not coming out this week but the next one, it also seems like something important is happening, the writer wanted to the synopsis to be a secret and so far, we haven't gotten anything but the title and we already have the synopsis up to the episode 11.

Edit: lel we got the synopsis just today and I can already see certain someone ranting :v
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Howitzer on 2016 Apr 17, 03:27:21
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Pretty good, compared to the other Spike episodes, but I was really wanting to know how Twilight and Rarity got through the rooms so easily until they HAD TO INTERRUPT IT!
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Stardust Dragon on 2016 Apr 17, 03:43:42
Quote from: Howitzer on 2016 Apr 17, 03:27:21
Spoiler: show
Pretty good, compared to the other Spike episodes, but I was really wanting to know how Twilight and Rarity got through the rooms so easily until they HAD TO INTERRUPT IT!


Spoiler: show
Offscreen teleportation.  Twilight Sparkle.  I wasn't surprised, though I did laugh at Ember's reaction to it.  I'm just glad that Spike didn't ask, or Twi didn't offer, to port them all closer to the staff during the competition.  That might've messed up the episode for me, but otherwise I really liked it.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Dawnstar on 2016 Apr 17, 08:23:02
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Definitely a good episode in my opinion, and probably my favorite of the season so far. Not to mention it was probably one of the best Spike episodes to date.

I'm always excited to learn more about parts of Equestria we know little about, and while I wasn't quite as giddy as Twilight was to learn more about dragons I was still thrilled to see the episode focused on them.

An interesting thing to note: no full-sized dragons answered the Dragon Lord's summons. We know they're not feral since we've seen two of them hold conversations with characters. So I have to wonder if they just go rogue once they reach a certain size, or if they get too greedy to bother caring about such a summons.

Speaking of the Dragon Lord. I really liked his characterization. Plus I couldn't help but think he sounded orky with that accent.

Of course I've seen a few people elsewhere in the fandom say that Twilight and Rarity were out of place in the episode and didn't really serve a purpose by being there. However, I have to disagree with that since if they had not been there then Spike would never have been able to convince Ember that having friends could make you stronger than doing things alone. If the two of them hadn't worked together, then neither of them would've made it to the scepter before Garble and Equestria would probably have faced a dragon invasion.

On that note, it really makes me wonder how dragon culture is going to change with a leader like Ember in charge who not only knows the value of working together, but also knows more about ponies and pony culture than most dragons could claim. Not to mention she'll be in direct contact with the princess of friendship which makes me think that the attitude of dragons towards ponies is going to change in the future.

Can't say I'm too surprised to see that Twilight didn't fight back against Garble either. She may have a lot of power, probably more than enough to take him on, but she tends to panic in hostile situations unless something angers her enough to give her focus which didn't happen here.

It was also fun watching Garble as well. While he was used as comic relief a lot he also had the most serious agenda of the dragons and was certainly a threat when he needed to be. Of course the punishment Spike gave him was funny and the reactions of both the first dragon Garble hugged as well as the face of the previous Dragon Lord were hilarious.

On a final note I am hoping there are more episodes like this in the season. Five episodes in and we're only just getting to the "explore" part of the "explore Equestria" theme for the season.

[spoiler]Also hoping for an actual Celestia episode for once and they're just hiding it from us. At this point she's pretty close to becoming the least developed princess of Equestria even though she's been in the show since the beginning, and that's just not right.
[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Apr 17, 17:52:19
You rang?

ovO
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Apr 30, 18:27:37
I did watch the episode.

But I need some time.

I seriously don't know what happened. I really don't. This is literally the first time I've been in a situation where I have no idea what to do.

I'll be doing some serious contemplating. Hopefully I can post something tomorrow. But it may take longer. We'll see.

That's about all I can say.




Now's your chance.

Argue your case to me to possible embrace the GlimGlam.

Yes I just said that. Don't have a heart attack.

I just ask you do it via PM.

Thanks.

Contemplating Things LostSanity.

*Reaches Out To The Truth?*
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: wingedpineapple on 2016 Apr 30, 20:50:11
Spoiler: show

Twilight is a silly pony.
That's literally everything I got to say about the episode.


Spoiler: show
Embrace the sanity.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Dawnstar on 2016 May 01, 17:11:35
Collected all of my thoughts on Saturday's episode in the followup on EQD so I'll just copy/paste what I wrote there.

Spoiler: No Second Prances • show
Honestly, I thought the episode was OK at best. Not a bad episode, but it wasn't that great either.

The interactions between Starlight and Trixie were probably the highlight of the episode for me. The two of them really did work well together, and I can see those two staying friends in the future.

However, there was a lot in the episode that I thought fell flat. Twilight and Trixie really seemed to have put things behind them at the end of Magic Duel, but in this episode they seemed to have backtracked considerably. I can understand a little bit of suspicion between the two of them but nowhere near to the degree that they showed in this episode.

I'm a bit on the fence with Celestia's appearance too. On one hand I'm happy to see her making so many appearances in the season so far, however, I was disappointed to see it limited in this episode to her sitting around looking extremely bored and appearing to have a distinct lack of patience that I found, quite frankly, rather jarring for her character. I hope the desire to see more of Celestia isn't causing the writers to find ways to push her into an episode even though they've admitted they don't know how to handle her character very well.

One theme that seems to be getting a lot of reinforcement though is that Twilight is not a great teacher. She was a top-class student, is an excellent planner and does know a fair amount about being a good friend, but she is awful at teaching things (with a couple exceptions). I think I actually want to see an episode where she becomes aware of this shortcoming.

But honestly? Twilight didn't really feel like Twilight in this episode. I'm not entirely sure why, but something just felt off about her character in this episode, and it smells like plot convenience.

Also, if we're being perfectly honest here? The manticore bowing at the end of Trixie's act was the only thing that stopped that from being a blatant attempted suicide scene. For the entire lead up to it I was thinking: "Wait, what's up with Trixie? She's not seriously doing what I think she's doing? Is she?" etc. In hindsight of course I realized that somepony would have saved her, but still, the implications are there whether you want see them or not.

Seriously, if the manticore had roared at the audience rather than take a bow that scene would have been a lot darker. Think about that.

On a slightly more upbeat note: I laughed so hard when Starlight asked Rainbow who the Wonderbolts were. Not to mention Rainbow's faces that accompanied her reaction. Plus that shock wave. I'd bet Rainbow was halfway to Canterlot before she realized Starlight wasn't with her.

Still though, as I said, while the episode wasn't that bad I didn't think it was all that great either. I still like Magic Duel better as far as Trixie episodes go, and something really felt off about the way both Twilight and Celestia were acting to the point where it felt a bit jarring.

However, the friendship connection between Starlight and Trixie did feel genuine at least, and I truly do think that they will remain friends for the forseeable future.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 May 01, 18:43:11
Hi guys.

So... I'm finished contemplating things. I know it's only been a day, but, I was off from work this weekend so I was able to stay up until 3 a.m. watching Toonami stuff and, as I stated, I didn't do this half-way. I spent all of last night and some of today thinking about it.

I've made my decision. Whether people choose to accept it... will be entirely up to them. Because there are going to be those who refuse to hear what I have to say because of what I've previously done. Which is fine and I understand that. There are even those who will think this is some sort of ruse and that there won't be any change and I'll eventually go back to my 'old self.' Which is fine too.

I won't change their minds but I assure you this isn't a ruse. I wouldn't concoct something like this to fool people. That's not something I do.

Anyway since I don't know who will actually take the time to see what I've decided, I'll post it in spoilers as always. It will be entirely up to you whether you choose to read it or not. Here goes...

Spoiler: show
Let me get the negative stuff out of the way first. I'll end with the positive stuff. See? That's different isn't it? Anyway, I'm not going to completely change. Because I don't really see a reason to do that. There are some things when it comes to this that more than likely won't be changing. For example, my opinions on the Equestria Girls movies are unchanged and will remain so. Sorry?  :s

Also... I still can't bring myself to like how Starlight's redemption was done or even her motivation for everything she did. I'm sorry but I just can't. I still feel like both of those things weren't very well done at all and were bad/made no sense at all. (I'm legitimately trying to use nice words here. More shocks I know)

I can't really change who I am as a person because I don't really see a particular reason to do that. It's not something I can think I can do. So there are aspects of me that more than likely won't change.

Now...

This episode effected me. A LOT. Why? The content. Giving second chances. Now at first... as I watched this episode I was kind of going 'lolnope.'

But as the episode progressed... and I saw Starlight's (yes I just used her name don't have a heart attack please) struggle and even Trixie's struggle to a degree. I was speechless. Quite literally actually.

Second chances...

I don't tend to give these out. It's not something I normally do. Ever. Which is the truth as I'm sure you all have seen and know.

But I don't know... it's just everything that occurred in this episode. It was almost like Starlight and Trixie to a smaller degree were speaking directly to me specifically. Now obviously that isn't true but it's what I felt at the time.

I can't give second chances? That is true. Most of the time I can't. When someone does something wrong I tend to just immediately assume that they're a bad person and just continue on that assumption to the point where I just outright ignore them and don't even allow them to show me that they're not. Is this bad? Honestly... it probably is. But I'm not sure this is something I can change either.

Now... I still am unsure of Trixie. Because of what she did and flat out admitted where she used Starlight just to beat Twilight. But her struggle at the end got to me too.

What effected to me to the point where I didn't know what to do was this episode and this episode alone. I legitimately thought the show would never effect me this much again and I have once again been proven wrong.

Second chances huh?

To me... my second chances are more like 'last chances.'

If they do anything else similar to what they originally did... then that means they are rotten to the core. For me anyway. Is this true? Again probably not but it's just the way I handle this. Whether you want to accept that or not is also your choice.

Alright fine.

I can't believe I'm doing this. I really can't. But this episode effected me too much. It really did. This isn't a joke and I'm being 100% serious.

I will give Starlight Glimmer and Trixie a second chance. HOWEVER... they aren't my favorite characters and I don't think they ever will be. Keep in mind though that my 'second chances' are more like 'last chances.'

But a word of caution guys... I will be keeping an eye on them very closely. If they do anything else that's similar to what they did... then that proves they really are bad. To me anyway.

That's just my thinking on all of this and the decision I've made. Which is obviously final.

Whether you choose to accept my thoughts/my decision on this... is also entirely up to you.

So there you go.

No heart attacks.  :P

P.S.: I LOVED the blabbing Big Mac part and the Slice is Life-like Vinyl Scratch, Cranky, and Derpy part.  :tongue:

Decent episode.

Yours truly,

Second-Chance-is-Last-Chance New (?) LostSanity


*goes to sulk in a corner over everything I've done*

:')
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Naura on 2016 May 02, 10:26:01
Quote from: Dawnstar on 2016 Apr 17, 08:23:02
Spoiler: show

An interesting thing to note: no full-sized dragons answered the Dragon Lord's summons. We know they're not feral since we've seen two of them hold conversations with characters. So I have to wonder if they just go rogue once they reach a certain size, or if they get too greedy to bother caring about such a summons.


Spoiler: show
I am thinking it is because they want a young leader, giving every dragon only one chance at proving that they are able to be the dragon lord. Also, if they just choose another old dragon they would have to switch soon again.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 May 02, 17:53:08
In summary...

It's less of a 'second chance' and more like a 'I'm keeping an eye on you so don't pull this crap again' sort of thing.

Take that however you want.

:s
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Howitzer on 2016 May 08, 00:30:44
Spoiler: show
(http://imgur.com/4rhNpDC.jpg)
That is all
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 May 08, 17:55:07
S6E7 thoughts below:

Spoiler: show
Unfortunately... I don't really have much to say about this one.

It certainly wasn't the greatest episode.

Dash achieved her dream, however, bad memories came back with the nickname. At first it seemed like the Wonderbolts were being out of character from what I've seen from them in the past.

However... the Dash imitations of the rest of the Mane 6 was FREAKING HILARIOUSlol

She kept trying so hard to stand out in a different way and it failed so many times.

In the end apparently the Wonderbolts give everyone slightly mean nicknames because of stuff that happens to them on their first day? I'm a little unsure about what the 'moral' of this episode is supposed to be honestly.

I wouldn't call this a bad episode but it wasn't the greatest either.

Mediocre episode with occasionally funny Dash antics.

:)





I want to say something real quick about the premier now. Get that below.

Spoiler: show
My thoughts on this one haven't changed much despite my changed perspective honestly.

About the only thing that's changed is that it being the WORST PREMIER EVER was clearly an overreaction.

However it wasn't exactly strong either. Mostly mediocre.

Flurry Heart is still cute and that was basically the only reason I looked past it being an alicorn. The rekindled friendship of Sunburst and Starlight was okay and they were able to overcome their uncertainty of being honest with each other about what happened to them and being worried what the other would think of their current status and/or pasts.

Either way the resolution was still somewhat predictable with Sunburst coming to the rescue and all.

Clearly it wasn't the worst premiere ever but I'd still say it was weaker than other premiers.

So basically my perspective on the premier has only changed from 'WORST PREMIER EVER' to 'Mediocre'

:s
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Dawnstar on 2016 May 08, 18:24:02
Spoiler: My thoughts on Newbie Dash • show

I really liked that Scootaloo was there when the news was announced to Rainbow. Especially with how excited she was while Rainbow was in shock.

Also, noticed the additional cloud structures near Rainbow's house. Ponyville has been steadily growing over the seasons and I guess they've recently gotten a boost in cloud-loving pegasus population. Of course that just makes me wonder all the more about how wealthy Rainbow might actually be.

Aside from her house seemingly being one of the fanciest in town the decorations inside it hardly look cheap either. And with her house having been the only cloud house in town for the longest time it is probably a landmark in its own right now even with the new houses.

I can't say I was surprised by the shared locker room though. Ponies have never displayed the same modesty issues that humans have because, as has been said "they almost never wear clothes." Rarity is really the only one we've seen make an issue of it.

Also, Rarity would probably be jealous of Rainbow's quick mane swaps: Rainbow has actually said she takes pride in her appearance so I'd be willing to bet she takes a lot better care of herself than you would assume at first glance and probably has more skill in it than she lets on.

On another note: that picture in Soarin's locker looked a lot like Rainbow's father. Wonder if they have a history or if it was just coincidence.

It was also interesting getting a general idea of a pegasus skeleton. The bones in their major feathers certainly make pegasi feathers very different from normal bird feathers, and would explain how dexterous their wings are.

Also, I have to wonder if that cloud-shaped bone at the base of their spine above the pelvis is where their pegasus magic is generated.

-------

Definitely looking forward to where they take Rainbow from this point onward. One chapter in her life has ended and another is beginning.

I was actually worried that Rainbow being a full member would take her away from Ponyville for long periods of time, but this episode stopped that worry in its tracks. Not only did Rainbow say she had no intention of leaving Ponyville, but she seemed perfectly capable of flying back and forth between her house and the Wonderbolt HQ in a matter of hours.


Quote from: LostSanity on 2016 May 08, 17:55:07
S6E7 thoughts below:

Spoiler: show

In the end apparently the Wonderbolts give everyone slightly mean nicknames because of stuff that happens to them on their first day? I'm a little unsure about what the 'moral' of this episode is supposed to be honestly.


Spoiler: show
Passing out nicknames like that is something that happens in the military so I think they were drawing on that particular parallel of the Wonderbolts. It is really only coincidence that the nickname they gave Rainbow was the same as the one she had as a filly.

Not really sure about the moral myself, but I think it was supposed to show that there is such thing as friendly ribbing between team mates and friends and not to take such teasing personally as it is very different from bullying and bad forms of hazing.

Rainbow thought that they were actually teasing her since her screw up was very similar to how the bullying started when she was a filly, but in the end she found out that they really did respect her.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Stardust Dragon on 2016 May 08, 20:08:09
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One thing I wish had been a little more involved with the moral is Rainbow's history with the nickname "Rainbow Crash".  She seemed very clearly disturbed to hear that childhood nickname come back into her life, which to me suggests she wasn't entirely over that bullying from her fillyhood.  I'd have loved for her to at least mention that to the Wonderbolts at the wrap-up, and just how much it hurt her.  It seemed a little insensitive by just sweeping it in with "haha, we all have embarrassing names"; it certainly wasn't intentional to open those old wounds on the Wonderbolt's part, but I feel like it still could have been part of the lesson that sometimes the past can still hurt.

I even think that RD could have said "you know, it's cool.  I'll take that nickname" by the end of it, to show she had worked through her history with it.  But what we got makes me think she just swept the issue under the rug for it to surface again later.


Besides that one issue of mine, loved this episode.  It's funny we get an episode focused on flight the same day my Aerialbots arrived in the mail.  Coincidence!  :D
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: McClaw on 2016 May 09, 08:06:56
Quote from: Dawnstar on 2016 May 08, 18:24:02
Spoiler: show
Passing out nicknames like that is something that happens in the military so I think they were drawing on that particular parallel of the Wonderbolts. It is really only coincidence that the nickname they gave Rainbow was the same as the one she had as a filly.


Spoiler: show
Military nicknames in general and "call signs" in particular. The traditions I've heard for the USAF is for small ceremonies where the rest of the pilots (and even support crews) pick call signs for the new pilots. And don't complain about your call sign or you'll get a worse one.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 May 14, 18:42:23
Here come thoughts for S6E8:

Spoiler: show
I wish I had a lot to say about this one. I really do.

But I really don't. Unfortunately, I'm not too keen on 'musical episodes.' (See Crusaders of the Lost Mark and the S3 Finale) I'm not saying the episode was bad though.

It was pretty much yet another rehash of 'A Christmas Carol.' Except with ponies. I've never really had a firm opinion one way or the other when it comes to that story either. However, it did remind me and make me realize that A Christmas Carol is pretty much the most well known 'redemption story.'

I liked the Derpy antics and seeing Vinyl Scratch and Octavia together in the background a lot though.

Also I think they broke the 4th wall with that 'voice actor' thing. Does Tara do Pinkie's singing voice? I honestly don't know as I don't really know all the voice actor stuff.  :s

ALSO LUNA. YAY LUNA.

Her music part was probably my favorite. Not because it was Luna (though that didn't hurt) but that song I actually somewhat liked. LUNA IS APPARENTLY GOOD AT EVERYTHING.

That's about all I can say. Sorry. I'm not a big fan of musical episodes.  :s

So I'd say it was a 'somewhat okay' episode.

X3
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Howitzer on 2016 May 15, 00:03:32
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This episode was definitely what the season needed. Most of the episodes so far have been mostly sub-par, but not this one. Having Heart Warming Eve Ebenezer Scrooge style with the mane 6 and Starlight (plus all of those songs). Now if only Discovery Family will play it during the actual holiday season.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2016 May 16, 04:18:27
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Can I just say I love villain songs? I love them so much. So often, they're better than hero songs because they're so much more dramatic. I loved the song about casting a spell to get rid of Hearthswarming Eve!

This was a pretty cool episode! Kinda wish it would've aired around winter holiday time. Then again, it's almost summer, so at least there's the fact that it kinda reminds me of Christmas in July, which makes me nostalgic for old Cartoon Network.

I really, really liked the design for the Ghost of Hearthswarming Future. That was a pretty spooky-looking Luna!

Also, I think I'm sensing a pattern here. Season 6 seems to be about dealing with the past.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 May 21, 18:19:24
S6E9 thoughts below:

Spoiler: show
I actually really liked this one!!

They made it seem like it was going to be a bad review and that was understandable. I kind of like how this episode was done too.

We never saw what happened so it was like a flashback and also the interviews were hilarious at times.  lol

Did you see the extra Pinkie? That legitimately cracked me up.  lol

It was funny to see Twilight and co. try to act like Rarity and do what she wanted to do, and then, not surprisingly, it all failed on them quite badly and they quickly shifted to their regular selves.

It also looks like Vinyl Scratch/DJ-PON3 is starting to become a recurring character now which I also like. I also like that they're keeping her mute. I really liked that in Slice of Life and sort of just made her 'cooler' for me. It's kind of hard to explain. I guess it makes her more mysterious?  :s

Either way this one had quite of few funny moments which I quite liked and the review actually seemed like a a good review and not the DOOM review that Twilight and co. made it seem like.

Just a good all-around episode as far as I'm concerned with lots of funny moments.

^-^
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: McClaw on 2016 May 22, 08:10:56
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I'm starting to suspect there are two DJ-PON3 / Vinyl Scratch ponies out there.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 May 28, 17:59:22
Well... here are my S6E10 thoughts. I'm probably being too nice though, so, I'll let others be negative.  :s

Spoiler: show
Hmm...

There is legitimately not much I can say about this one. Not really in a good way either. I'm not saying I didn't like it though.  :s

It's just... I don't know... nothing really 'stood out' for me in this one.

Not surprisingly, Applejack ended up working when she was supposed to be 'relaxing.'

It was kind of interesting to see her fixing the problem with the spa center though. She was only supposed to be there to 'relax' and she ended up helping them out.  :P

Then, Twilight and Rarity return the favor by helping out Applejack because they notice that she was doing a lot of unnecessary things with her chores and helped her 'update' them sort of so they wouldn't take that long which, of course, ended with her being able to spend more 'quality time' I guess with Rarity.

About the only thing I can say is that I liked Rainbow Dash in this one with her trying to hide that she liked the spa treatments. It was cute and funny.  X3

That's about all I can say.

Others can do a better job at this then I can. I don't like to be negative, I know it doesn't seem that way but I just don't like to dwell on negative stuff.

So I guess it was pretty much another 'mediocre' episode for me.

:s
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Howitzer on 2016 May 28, 22:07:37
Spoiler: show
It was a pretty lukewarm episode, nothing special.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Dawnstar on 2016 May 29, 17:17:07
Spoiler: Applejack's "Day" Off • show
Certainly a nice slice-of-life episode I thought. I won't say it was the best episode this season, but it was far from being the worst in my opinion.

Can definitely see the ease at which one can get stuck in routines. Because at some point there was a good reason to start those routines. Even if they're not practical any more that doesn't mean the habit goes away.

Laughed so hard at Rainbow's appearances. Both because they were funny, and because my head canon that she likes to pamper herself when her friends aren't around is now canon.

And she's there daily too which made it all the more funny. XD
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Jun 05, 18:14:21
S6E11 thoughts below:

Spoiler: show
Let me start by saying that I was so happy that we finally got to see Fluttershy's parents. I like that the show is doing this for all the characters because there are still some characters whose families are 'unknown' and now Fluttershy isn't one of those characters (Rainbow Dash still is though...)  ^-^

Now we know where Fluttershy got her shyness, quite voice, demeanor, and occasionally being unable to stand up for herself.  :P

Anyway... onto the episode...

Zephyr Breeze... was quite the opposite to Fluttershy. Shockingly so. Almost makes me think he was adopted or something. He's just no where close to Fluttershy or her parents personality wise. As the episode went on, this guy just proved how much of an idiot and jerk he can be.

Plus he kept thinking Rainbow Dash liked him. UM... NO:l

How this guy kept screwing up is beyond me... but I guess being scared of failure is something that you can get. But you really just have to keep trying and even if you do fail, that allows to learn a lesson out of it, and grow from it.

The moral seemed somewhat like 'common sense' to me but that could just be me.

Either way this one was certainly better than the last and I quite enjoyed it.

Stay away everyone!! Fluttershy is 'peeved'!!  lol

Pretty decent episode.

:)
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Dawnstar on 2016 Jun 05, 18:57:22
Spoiler: Flutter Brutter • show
Yeah, after this episode only Rainbow's family and Applejack's parents still require some level of development beyond knowing what the former looks like and that the latter are just "gone."

I did like that some knowledge of Fluttershy's family was shared among her friends beforehand. Aside from being less direct than Shining Armor's introduction it showed us that stuff happens in their lives that we don't see in the show.

I really liked how comfortable Fluttershy was around her family too. Such a big difference when she's around ponies she's known her whole life. Not to mention the way Rainbow interacted with her family. Personally it reinforced my head canon that Fluttershy and Rainbow are practically sisters with how long they've known each other, and I found it amusing how intimidated Zephyr was by Fluttershy.

Though while I guess we were supposed to dislike Zephyr in the beginning, I will admit I wasn't all that invested in seeing him get a turn around so much as a comeuppance. Especially with how he acted around Rainbow even when it was obvious he was making her uncomfortable.

Of course I won't deny that she was more than capable of handling him because that would be unfair to her. However, it didn't earn him any points when they made it sound like he's acted that way around her for a while. If anything I give Rainbow props for putting up with it as long as she has if only because he's Fluttershy's brother. I'm sure if he were any other pony she probably would've slugged him.

However, having seen people approach friends like that in the past I admit I cheered a little after she shocked him with a thundercloud.

That said I'd say this was a great episode for Fluttershy all in all and the development of mane 6 family members was more than welcome. I wouldn't mind seeing her parents more in the future either. Though for her brother it would depend on how he acts in the future since he was still struggling with his turn around at the end of the episode. Right now I doubt it would take much for him to regress to be honest.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Chishio Kunrin on 2016 Jun 05, 19:52:32
Quote from: LostSanity on 2016 Jun 05, 18:14:21
S6E11 thoughts below:

Spoiler: show
Let me start by saying that I was so happy that we finally got to see Fluttershy's parents. I like that the show is doing this for all the characters because there are still some characters whose families are 'unknown' and now Fluttershy isn't one of those characters (Rainbow Dash still is though...)  ^-^

Now we know where Fluttershy got her shyness, quite voice, demeanor, and occasionally being unable to stand up for herself.  :P

Anyway... onto the episode...

Zephyr Breeze... was quite the opposite to Fluttershy. Shockingly so. Almost makes me think he was adopted or something. He's just no where close to Fluttershy or her parents personality wise. As the episode went on, this guy just proved how much of an idiot and jerk he can be.

Plus he kept thinking Rainbow Dash liked him. UM... NO:l

How this guy kept screwing up is beyond me... but I guess being scared of failure is something that you can get. But you really just have to keep trying and even if you do fail, that allows to learn a lesson out of it, and grow from it.

The moral seemed somewhat like 'common sense' to me but that could just be me.

Either way this one was certainly better than the last and I quite enjoyed it.

Stay away everyone!! Fluttershy is 'peeved'!!  lol

Pretty decent episode.

:)


Spoiler: show
It's common sense to you and me, but there are a lot of young children out there who it's not common sense for. I know a little girl who keeps wanting to give up on things because she's not as good at them as other people. She gets extremely discouraged when she gets a drawing How To book and notices how much better the people who made the book are at drawing than her, not realizing that
1. They're professionals and adults, who have had a lot more experience and practice than her.
2. That's kind of the point of a drawing How To book. People who are good at drawing make the book to teach you how to draw like them.
Regardless, she has these moments where she gets discouraged and doesn't want to try anymore because "I'll never be as good as them! :'(" and someone has to remind her that practice is how you get that good.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Jun 11, 18:29:05
S6E12 thoughts are below this.

Spoiler: show
Wow.

I'll be completely honest with you... I was a little worried about this one. For the most part, 'map' episodes tend to not be that great.

However, that certainly wasn't the case this time.

Maybe Pinkie and Rarity really was the best pair?  lol

Either way I quite liked this one. Especially the restaurant ponies. Even the song was relatively decent. Very good and catchy. That's saying something coming from me when I don't tend to like songs.  X3

Not surprisingly Pinkie and Rarity were doing the wrong jobs at first but fixed it at the end.

That food critic though... clearly a jerk.  :l

Glad to see Rarity put them in their place.

I really don't know how to put this one. I just really liked it. It's hard for me to describe what I like about certain episodes I guess. The entire episode just gelled really well I guess? I'm really not good at this...  :s

It seemed like the moral was 'don't always believe ratings from so called 'critics' you should always try to see what others think of it first or just give it a chance and try it yourself. You never know, you may like it.' Or something like that I guess. Either way I liked that too.  ^-^

An unexpected surprisingly decent map episode.

:D
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Cardboard on 2016 Jun 14, 06:27:26
Isn't it a bit irritating having the spoilers everywhere? Why don't we just make this thread as a spoiler somehow?
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Yanis Lovely on 2016 Jun 26, 13:26:06
Quote from: Crescent Sun on 2016 Feb 14, 20:21:51
As everyone may have noticed, the few times i write around here mostly are because i get overhyped... or because i've discovered something about LoE or MLP.
This time, indeed, I am overhyped! after reading a little leak buried in the Toy Fair presentation.

http://www.equestriadaily.com/2016/02/season-6-of-my-little-pony-arrives-in.html

So... now it's official, in May we'll have the first episode of My little pony on air. But i am not sure about the day or hour..  so... i couldn't help myself and made a countdown to 1 May.

http://www.arewethere.yt/My-Little-Pony/38369.htm

Now is time to get hyped!
0:) :c :D :luna:
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: fier32 on 2016 Jun 30, 14:07:28
What happen when Flash Sentry going to face himself(Captain KirschHeels,whose bearing to have an uncanny resemblance of Flash Sentry in-between as Pegasus and  'Alicorn' and Human form and used to work for King Sombra as night squad captain)?
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Howitzer on 2016 Jul 30, 14:53:06
Spoiler: The start of the next half of the season • show
And it's meme-tastic(http://i.imgur.com/cfo1jqU.jpg)

Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Jul 30, 18:09:25
Here come my thoughts for S6E13

Spoiler: show
Quite the return for this show. We get another Daring Do episode!!

Something was quite obvious in this one. They were clearly using this to make 'statements' about the brony fandom. At least in the sense that there are also those within this fandom who complain as much about this show as Quibble did about the Daring Do books. The obvious example being those who say that 'this season was the best' or 'the other seasons past this season are bad' and stuff like that. I'm not immune from this either. I'll admit I can sometimes complain to much. However it's never about 'seasons' for me. It's always about certain things they decide to do.  :s

Anyway, the obvious fandom statement aside, this was a pretty hilarious episode. Patton Oswalt fit the character perfectly. It was quite hilarious and Rainbow Dash being her Daring Do fan-self all over again was good to see again.  :P

The Quibble instances were pretty funny and hilarious too sometimes. Especially when he kept insulting Caballeron and continued to not believe it was real.  lol

This was just an overall fun episode with a good statement when it comes to fandoms. We shouldn't argue about when it was good or what 'season's' we like. We all like the show for our own reasons and arguing about it really the best way to go about it. We just all like it in a certain way.

Great start for the return from hiatus with a great episode.

:D
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Aug 06, 17:51:45
Below are my thoughts for S6E14

Spoiler: show
There's not really much I can say about this one.

First off, Physics lesson? Seriously? They're in Elementary School. Not College.  :s

After that there's really not much else I can say. The cart concept is somewhat interesting and makes me think they got the idea from that fan-game that never saw fruition. But maybe not? Still, it's good to see other types of racing.  The problem was... somewhat predictable if you ask me. It wasn't really surprising that Applejack, Rarity, and Rainbow Dash took over when their 'sisters' Apple Bloom, Sweetie Belle, and Scootaloo asked for help with their cart. They wanted to do something different but their Applejack, Rarity, and Rainbow Dash wouldn't have it and they became understandably frustrated. Still though, it was quite funny that Derpy won most creative when Rarity was a filly.  lol

They acted as if they were the ones participating in the race when it was supposed to be for the kids, which Cheerilee tried to tell them but again they weren't listening. As expected, they ruined it for all ponies involved.

I will say though I kind of liked the moral/lesson/whatever you want to call it. It really is hard to stand up to/confront those that are older than you because it seems like they are supposed to be more knowledgeable and wiser. I have problems with that myself with my mother but I don't say anything because I'm fairly sure it would always lead to an argument. No one wins in an argument.

I can't say much else. I enjoyed seeing Derpy in this episode though and even being a part of the race as well and I did like the racing cart concept. The song was pretty okay too.

Overall I'd say this one was a mediocre episode. But it's not like I hated it. Just me I suppose.

:\
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Stardust Dragon on 2016 Aug 06, 18:53:54
S6 Ep 14

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I can't stand this trope.  Every time I see it I just get so angry at the "know better" characters for getting so blatantly sidetracked and completely ignoring the main character of the story.  Somehow it seems worse here; though I can believe all the older sisters for why they want to win their specific category (which was a nice touch, having more than just a prize for fastest racer), I felt like this was a step backwards in everypony's relationship.  Not showing who actually won was well played in my mind, but I can imagine there are going to be more than a few arguments about that in the near future...

As for the nitpicks; did anyone else notice how both Rarity and Sweetie's horns vanished under the helmets?  Um...ow?  Have we seen that before, because it's the first I recall seeing it...  Also, when I was in Cub Scouts half a lifetime ago, the Pinewood Derby took me and my dad a few days off and on to sculpt out a car, and these teams made perfectly functional cars in half a day?  Twice?  And are these things powered at all?  I presume not, but in the end there seemed to be more grease on the older ponies outfits than just lubing up the axles would suggest to me...

Overall this wasn't an episode I liked: I don't think it's necessarily bad, but it's low on my totem pole, mainly for using a plot I really don't like seeing.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Rasy (Flanniest Flan) on 2016 Aug 09, 07:28:58
My thoughts for S6-E14:
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Okay so seeing the older sisters portray as the ones that don't listen to their younger sisters reminds me on how families sometimes have older family members who don't listen to their younger family members. Really at the start, I knew that they were choosing the wrong ponies for the job. But at the same time I tried to put trust in the sisters of Applebloom, Sweetie Belle and Scootaloo (Rainbow isn't her sister persay but I guess acquired sister). But at the same time, their wants on which medals they wished to obtained made me think that they should have asked the other sister. Like Applebloom should have asked Rainbow Dash, Scootaloo should ask Rarity, and Sweetie Belle should have asked Applejack (Although probably Applejack may be confused due to tradition).
Honestly seeing the older sisters not listening to the younger sisters does give some negative feelings towards the episode from me but nether less, its a good episode. We used to have these derby races in Cub Scouts where I was from and it brings back memories of where I wanted my car to also be the fastest but had to also get help from a relative to help design such a thing.
Also one question: Did they really destroy most of Ponyville just to build that track?

Honestly a few of the past episodes have not been my cup of tea but I do enjoy watching them and I am still hyped for more Season 6 and the new movie. :)
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Aug 13, 17:57:43
Thoughts on S6E15 below as always because that's how I do this now.

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Wow. Honestly... this episode caught me off guard. I was legitimately concerned I wouldn't like it due to the 'zombie' thing.

But that just wasn't the case. This was a pretty decent episode.

Honestly... I actually thought some of Rainbow Dash's pranks were funny. But that's probably because they were done to others and weren't done to me. I can understand what the moral was for the most part.

Celestia in a sea of scrolls!! That was hilarious.  lol

Rainbow Dash gets the wrong idea from what her friends were trying to tell her.

Pinkie antics are best antics that make episodes fun. Especially when she jumped at the cookies and then wanted more 'joke cookies' when she was 'sick.'  X3

Sick Pinkie can only mean bad things... and... it was.

So... the 'zombie' ponies. Honestly... they weren't so much 'zombie' ponies as they were 'obsessed with cookies zombie' ponies.

When it started happening to Rainbow Dash's friends I was generally enjoying the episode. For some reason it was just funny to me (probably because I realized that they were faking it but that really didn't seem to make the episode bad for me)  lol

Just a lot of hilarity in this episode and it wasn't surprising with the conclusion that it taught Rainbow the lesson she was supposed to be learning and one final 'prank' to end it.

This was actually a surprisingly fun episode I quite liked this one.

:D
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Rasy (Flanniest Flan) on 2016 Aug 20, 13:57:55
My thoughts for S6-E16:
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Honestly this was like the normal lesson of not judging a book by its cover. It shows that you cannot judge all Changelings the same, that they are all different. I loved how even Twilight got a friendship lesson of her own. It brings back memories of Season 1.

Really I feel as if this episode portrayed more of ponies being in the very wrong. Their racism against Changelings was shown. I doubt even with Thorax, that ponies will be okay with ALL Changelings after. I also believe that Equestria and the Changeling Empire (Or whatever it is called), will still be in a war type relationship.

I am a bit disappointed in Twilight Sparkle for not acting properly as the Princess of Friendship. If she is to befriend Discord, who actually did more damage to a city than the Changeling attack, then why would she not forgive just one Changeling? It is clear there is some form of racism or whatnot in here. But I rather not delve deep into it.

I do hope Thorax appears again later in the show. And I also wonder if he was the one in Ponyville during that one scene. I didn't like how he was portrayed, I just found the voice a tiny bit weird but that is something I can get over.

Not really much else to say except that this episode indeed made my melt heart. Guess it also did for Thorax.

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Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: O. Vannen on 2016 Aug 20, 17:40:20
Episode 16 - The Times Are a Changeling

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Ah, the trope of the odd one out, or however people call it. Despite being part of a race entirely based on the eating of love, wanting to be different since hatching (which I call BS, you just hatched for crying out loud). This has been a recurring problem with MLP; too perfect too quickly. Luna's self-acceptance with her demons, Discord's reformation, and now ONE SONG from Spike of all characters and the parents of the reason this changeling is here now accepts the creature that JUST BARED ITS FANGS IN THE PRESENCE OF FLURRY HEART.
sigh
But I digress, we got to see more of the changelings. We now know they can change into more than just ponies. Add baby dragons and stones to their list.
BUT COULDN'T YOU JUST PICK A NAME BEFORE RETURNING TO THE CRYSTAL EMPIRE????
I'm gonna need to sit on this episode. I'm not sure how I feel about it, yet.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Aug 20, 18:05:25
S6E16 thoughts below in spoilers. It could be my last episode ever. Hopefully not though.

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Wow. To be honest... I'm not sure there's much I can say about one. That may seem like a bad thing, but, in all honesty, this episode may have been so good that there's just nothing to say.

Let me start by saying that I, myself, have participated in a few MLP: FiM RP's that involved Changeling's that had sort of 'defected' from the Changeling Hive and we're actually 'good' (if you want to call it that)

However... color me surprised to see something like this in 'canon' show format.

The Spike antics were pretty good in this one. He certainly likes abusing his Crystal Empire 'hero' status. Which caused hilarity. I liked that quite a bit.

Everyone freaking out and then they finally find out about the rumored 'Changeling Spy' or whatever.

It was funny to see the guards actually listening to Spike. He's not even royalty. Even the guards look up to him? Not sure that's well placed... more hilarity though.  X3

So... Spike finds the Changeling and freaks out. Understandable. IT FREAKING SAVED HIM.  O:

The backstory... interesting I guess. I suppose it at least seems like it's trying. Though the hissing... I guess he can't control it, but, still...  :I

The birth of Changelings was... creepy...

Spike tries to tell everyone and they all... act like he's a comedian but Shining Armor says it's not a joke.

Things don't go well. So they try the Crystal Pony disguise. Um... wasn't that what they were afraid of in the first place?  X3

Spike's lie to Twilight... well done sir.

Eventually though... he's discovered. They all chase him out and Spike can't do anything but tries to make it up to him. SAVED BY A CHANGELING AGAIN. WHAT. IS. HAPPENING.  ovO

Let me talk about the song. Remember how I don't tend to like songs? But when they're good that's saying something? Yeah. It happened again. The part "darkness can turn to light" made me think of Kingdom Hearts. Reference? Who knows... possibly? One can wish I guess.  :\

The song was quite good. A decent Spike song and a decent song in general if you ask me.

Yes. You all have lots to learn when it comes to friendship.

But... I...

I... just...

*tempted to hit L.A. Noire 'Doubt' button*

*searches for 'Doubt' button*

*can't find it*

:/

I just... I really hope this isn't some devious plot. Seriously. I really hope it's not. But... I have this feeling... that it could be...  :s

Other than my worries that this is just a meticulously thought out villainous plot...

AMAZING.

:D

P.S.: *continues searching for L.A. Noire 'Doubt' button*  :s

P.P.S.: If this is my last MLP: FiM episode ever... it couldn't have ended at a better place. Hopefully not though!! #NeverGiveUp
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Stardust Dragon on 2016 Aug 27, 15:19:56
Season 6, episode 17
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The short version: Predictable?  Yes.  Fun?  Ooooooh yes.

While I haven't played much of Dungeons and Dragons due to not having a decent sized group of friends, I did enjoy the one opportunity I had to sit in with a group.  And I have always liked the idea of deep-immersion in gaming.  I was kind of hoping to see all of the Mane6 dressed up for the affair, but I'm certain the fanart will fix that by Monday.
Discord was fun in this episode, though the stereotypical reaction to something as nerdy as DnD never sits well with me.  Also Discord moping as he left, if only because I see a little of that in myself and it's a habit I'd like to kick...
Lots of what I felt were good jokes and gags this time around, though maybe I just appreciate that kind of humor when Discord does enter the picture.  Like I mentioned before it was entirely predictable, but the spectacle made up for it.  And I was worried about the quality of the rest of the season because I didn't like "Cart Before the Ponies" and "28 Pranks Later"...

Also, Fluttershy's single eyebrow raise.  Somehow it works better for her than it did for AJ.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Aug 27, 18:35:14
S6E17 thoughts below. It's a Discord episode... so... you know...

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Hmm... not sure there's much I can say about this one.

Discord likes to prove how much of a jerk he is by making it clear he only likes Fluttershy. 'Opposite' Fluttershy was pretty scary though...  :I

He doesn't even want to try, then, Spike and Big Mac make it seem like they're doing something 'guy related' to get him to come.

That Discord entrance... dude... you're not Lebron James. Nowhere near Lebron James. Go Cavs?  :s

Discord got the wrong idea entirely. A tabletop roleplaying game huh? I've heard of them but never tried them myself. Too complicated for me.  :\

It did sound interesting (at least the one they were playing in this episode) but I don't think I'd ever try them myself. Discord gets bored quickly and not surprisingly. He gets angry and pretty much causes the problem.

Admittedly... the 'gamers want to be in their games' is not exactly true if you ask me. It's true in a small sense, but, your supposed to only immerse yourself in the game. Not actually want to be in the game. Because then you'd literally die if you were in the game. Especially someone like me who isn't physically fit enough to survive very long.  :s

He made it ultra bad for Spike and Big Mac and made me legitimately feel sorry for them. Jerk Discord yet again.  :l

No wonder he doesn't have any friends. Especially when he does stuff like this. I'll admit they got me a little with Spike and Big Mac feeling sorry for him though and they gave him a second chance (how many chances does this make anyway? I've lost count at this point  :l )

Maybe if he wouldn't do crap like this he wouldn't be alone all the time and give stuff a chance and not be jerk about it? Just a thought.  :s

But the ending was actually kind of nice and it wasn't surprising that Rainbow and Pinkie wanted in on it. RAINBOW NINJA.  :P

What was Pinkie supposed to be? A jester? Bard? Gypsy? Unsure there. The ending and the 'real' game gave me Final Fantasy vibes though. Don't know if that's a reference either but I did sort of like that.

I know I'm making it seem like I didn't like this one but that's not really it. I guess I'm just not a Discord fan and likely never will be. Maybe if he would stop causing the problems most of the time in his episodes and just stop being a jerk in general I could like him more. Maybe.

But that's just me I guess. I will say though that the humor in this one was pretty good. That's one of the few things it had going for it.

So I'd say overall this was an 'okay' episode. Not great, not horrible.  :\

Sorry guys. I guess I just can't like Discord.  :s
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Rasy (Flanniest Flan) on 2016 Aug 28, 02:04:57
My thoughts for S6-E17:

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This episode was a simple fun to watch episode because it had Discord in it. I am one of the people that like Discord's shenanigans and really enjoyed to see him in another episode. This episode was really predictable in the sense of where he was coming from and where Spike and Big Mac were coming from. It was also predictable to see what would happen next in the next scene. For example, I knew seconds before that he would teleport them into the game when he was angry.

I for one find some disappointment in Discord for not even trying the game before he decided to give up on it at first. However he prevailed in the end.

This episode overall was one of the funniest this season for me.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Sep 03, 18:48:31
S6E18 thoughts below.

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I actually really liked this one.

I can definitely see the Harry Potter Quidditch influences that I read about on Equestria Daily. It seems like quite the interesting game. I also like that they have sports in Equestria.  ^-^

When Pinkie and Fluttershy ended up really good at the game and it shocked Applejack and Rainbow Dash that was actually pretty funny. It somewhat shocked me as well.  X3

All those failing unicorns... but Snips wasn't and was really good at it?! Okay...  :/

Not surprisingly Dash and Applejack pushed Pinkie and Fluttershy too much during their training and they couldn't take the pressure that they were putting on them as well as the pressure from the town as Dash and Applejack hyped up the game.

Stressed Pinkie and Fluttershy was actually somewhat disheartening. ANGRY FLUTTERSHY IS BACK. OH GOD.  :I

I actually liked the moral in this one too. Some do well under pressure others don't. Plus... from the way I see it... games are supposed to be fun. As long as you have fun playing them, that's really all that should matter if you ask me. That could just be me though.  :s

Luckily Pinkie and Fluttershy have fun again, and Snails too I guess? This of course leads to Ponyville actually winning. Yay.  ^-^

That Appleoosa pegasus in the game is related to Buck Biceps guaranteed.  X3

This was just a really good episode with a good moral. Really liked this one. I'm liking this trend of good episodes.

:D
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Sep 10, 17:56:15
Apparently I'm the only one discussing episodes on here now. Either way S6E19 thoughts are below:

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Not much to say honestly.

First off, what's wrong with pirates? They're pretty cool in One Piece...  :s

Either way...

Apparently there's a griffin that's actually nice. Not only that... but hyper. Like really hyper. Perhaps Gabby should consider decaf?  X3

Admittedly Gabby was pretty cute.  :P

But I can't say much else. It was somewhat disheartening to see the Crusaders actually technically fail. It was coming when Gabby succeeded at everything they had her do.

Twilight's excitement at a research project was funny and disturbing all at the same time.  :I

There's literally nothing else I can really say.

It was an okay episode I guess it just didn't have much else in it.

Sorry I really don't know what else to say because there's not much too say I guess.

Relatively okay episode but there wasn't much content that made me enjoy it as much as the last few episodes did.

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Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Stardust Dragon on 2016 Sep 11, 00:30:07
Quote from: LostSanity on 2016 Sep 10, 17:56:15
Apparently I'm the only one discussing episodes on here now. Either way S6E19 thoughts are below:

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Not much to say honestly.

First off, what's wrong with pirates? They're pretty cool in One Piece...  :s

Either way...

Apparently there's a griffin that's actually nice. Not only that... but hyper. Like really hyper. Perhaps Gabby should consider decaf?  X3

Admittedly Gabby was pretty cute.  :P

But I can't say much else. It was somewhat disheartening to see the Crusaders actually technically fail. It was coming when Gabby succeeded at everything they had her do.

Twilight's excitement at a research project was funny and disturbing all at the same time.  :I

There's literally nothing else I can really say.

It was an okay episode I guess it just didn't have much else in it.

Sorry I really don't know what else to say because there's not much too say I guess.

Relatively okay episode but there wasn't much content that made me enjoy it as much as the last few episodes did.

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See, I saw it as "failing at an impossible task".  As far as anypony knows, it's physically impossible for non-ponies to get cutie marks.  Yet they still helped Gabby figure out what her cutie mark would be if it were possible and, more importantly, made her understand what that actually means.  It's not just a physical symbol; the way I see it, it's an etching of the core essence of a pony, who they really are given shape.  Sometimes it's for comedy, sure, but it's still something that only has so much value on it's own, and not having one doesn't make you any different from somepony who does.  Not to mention failure is a part of life, something that has to be dealt with and moved on from; sure it's terrible to experience, but dwelling on it is just as harmful as letting it slide without taking any lessons from it.  The CMC did fail, but they turned it into a success going about it a different way, effectively learning something from the experience.

I really liked this episode, personally.  I agree that Gabby was a little too high-energy for me, those characters tend to bother me after too long.  Gabby very nearly wore her welcome out for me.  And while I was snarky about the CMC: Griffonstone branch, I think it's cute to see such an interspecies friendship like that. Quick and a little forced as is the nature of this show, granted, but still something I can admire.

Kind of like my response to Dungeons and Discords: it was predictable, but I think handled decently.  Not the greatest episode but a good one, and certainly miles ahead of what other shows have done with this exact story.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Rasy (Flanniest Flan) on 2016 Sep 11, 04:25:09
I didn't cover the last episode because really I just didn't have much to say...

My thoughts for S6-E19:

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As far as anyone/anypony/anygriffon knows, it is impossible and unheard of to get a cutiemark as a griffon. Again speculation but I would be thrilled to see a griffon HAVE a cutiemark. Anyways, this episode brought up a few points: Talents can range, and a cutiemark may not reflect only one talent. Also talents are not just the one thing you are set at life to. However your purpose in life may be. And talents do not directly define a purpose in life as you can have many talents that lead up or build up on that purpose. In other words, finding your purpose sometimes means being talented at different things but a talent isn't your purpose.

As for the CMC, I love how they failed but found a way to resurrect and correct that failure by substituting another solution. I guess this episode just has that meaning to never give up. Which they didn't, even after how they failed. Honestly however, the part that got to me the most was when they actually had her start a CMC: Griffonstone branch. I will enjoy to see that, and maybe Gilda again, in future episodes.

P.S. That Pre-Calculus and Physics classes... I don't know what grade they are in but that is some pretty advanced stuff. One thing that bugged me (For reasons that I do not know why) was the fact that the graph in the Pre-Calculus scene was wrong. While sin(x) = y is correct by the Unit Circle Definition, the graph actually documented an inverted cos(x) or more correctly, sin(x-[pi/2]). :P

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Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Sep 17, 17:57:47
S6E20 thoughts are in spoilers below as normal.

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Las Pegasus, as the name suggests, the pony version of Las Vegas. I was actually a little disappointed we didn't get to see more of it other than the one location.

Either way there's not much I can say about this one either.

I couldn't blame Applejack for not wanting to help Flim and Flam. They're jerks and anything that happens to them they deserve.  :l

To be completely honest though... the Flim and Flam fight actually reminded me of the Friends Forever MLP comic where it happened as well so it was almost the same thing all over again. So I sort of felt like I had seen this before.  :s

The new 'recurring' theme in media. TV shows, cartoons, video games, etc. seems to be corporate corruption where heads of business are actually malicious villains. Malicious is too strong a word for what was going on here but it was still corruption no matter how you look at it.

I once again felt for Applejack when she didn't want to work with Flim and Flam but I guess there was little choice.

The part at the end actually reminded me of Spiral (anime/manga) where they did something similar. So I did sort of like that.

Not surprisingly Flim and Flam return to their jerkish tendencies at the end of the episode.  :l

I'd say this was an 'okay' episode. Nothing outstanding or amazing honestly.

:s
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Zodia195 on 2016 Sep 18, 00:26:10
Quote from: LostSanity on 2016 Sep 17, 17:57:47
S6E20 thoughts are in spoilers below as normal.

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Las Pegasus, as the name suggests, the pony version of Las Vegas. I was actually a little disappointed we didn't get to see more of it other than the one location.

Either way there's not much I can say about this one either.

I couldn't blame Applejack for not wanting to help Flim and Flam. They're jerks and anything that happens to them they deserve.  :l

To be completely honest though... the Flim and Flam fight actually reminded me of the Friends Forever MLP comic where it happened as well so it was almost the same thing all over again. So I sort of felt like I had seen this before.  :s

The new 'recurring' theme in media. TV shows, cartoons, video games, etc. seems to be corporate corruption where heads of business are actually malicious villains. Malicious is too strong a word for what was going on here but it was still corruption no matter how you look at it.

I once again felt for Applejack when she didn't want to work with Flim and Flam but I guess there was little choice.

The part at the end actually reminded me of Spiral (anime/manga) where they did something similar. So I did sort of like that.

Not surprisingly Flim and Flam return to their jerkish tendencies at the end of the episode.  :l

I'd say this was an 'okay' episode. Nothing outstanding or amazing honestly.

:s



When you mentioned Spiral, you mean the one with the Blade Children right?  Sorry I know that's off topic.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Sep 18, 17:47:53
Quote from: Zodia195 on 2016 Sep 18, 00:26:10
When you mentioned Spiral, you mean the one with the Blade Children right?  Sorry I know that's off topic.


Correct.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Stardust Dragon on 2016 Sep 25, 05:26:50
S6E21:

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I'll be the first to admit I'm not a fan of Starlight Glimmer.  I concede that she's very different from Sunset Shimmer, who I vastly prefer, and they are from two different "franchises", so to speak, with Sunset taking roles up in Equestria Girls and not likely to return to Equestria.  I still prefer Sunset Shimmer and feel like Starlight is too similar, even given a different history. 

So when I say I liked this episode, it isn't necessarily good for Starlight.  I like the fact that this episode and others like it (What About Discord springs to mind) sort of make fun of the show's tenancy to rush out a happy ending in an episode.  In both this and What About Discord, the redeemed character still shows tendencies that are more in line with their pre-reformed selves; it takes Starlight no time at all to go fishing for a mind-controlling spell when things stop going her way, and even when I believe she didn't mean it maliciously she still did enchant her closest friends specifically to get her way, and only realized why this is a terrible idea after it had gone predictably wrong.

Plots that involve this kind of "blank puppet" mind control, especially those that demonstrate it with a blank voice, really creep me out.  I think it's something about having the self-actualization drained out of the victim that gets to me: I don't mind someone giving up personal freedom if it's their own decision, but having it forced on them like what happened in this episode is...deeply unsettling.  I did at least laugh at the predictable shenanigans of "exact wording" errors, especially after I spotted a Youtube comment that likened it to computer programming.  I'm not a programmer myself, but I understand enough to believe that's entirely true.

In the end, I am glad to see more of Starlight, oddly enough.  She's still not high on my list, but seeing her character turning around slowly does make it more interesting and believable.  She might win me over one of these days, but today was not it.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Sep 27, 18:14:44
 *sighs*

You really shouldn't read this. Seriously. You shouldn't. If you do... it's at your own risk. Here are S6E21 thoughts:

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So apparently... Starlight solves all her problems with magic. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START WITH THIS.

There are 3 things to keep in mind about how ridiculous this was.

First of all... YOU DON'T USE MAGIC TO SOLVE ALL YOUR PROBLEMS YOU ****ING DUMBASS>:/

Second of all... THAT SPELL WAS BASICALLY A MIND CONTROL SPELL YOU *****.   >:(

and Third of all... YOU DON'T USE MAGIC ON YOUR FRIENDS. BOY YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY COMMON SENSE DO YOU?   :l

This is... reminding me of something... I wonder what...?  :s

THANK GOD Twilight was there to save the say from this idiot's stupidity AGAIN:l

But... you know... we're just going to forgive her despite the MULTIPLE THINGS SHE DID WRONG YET AGAIN.  :x

This character is now on a very thin leash with me. If this happens ONE MORE TIME she's back to 'NOT REDEEMED' Character.

The only thing this episode seemed to prove is that Starlight Glimmer is a ****ING DUMBASS.  :\


Told you not to read it...

:s
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Oct 01, 18:02:05
S6E22 thoughts below. Nothing bad this time.

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There's not much to say about this one. Still though, I at least enjoyed this one significantly more than the last one.  :s

This was the seeming age-old problem of people have different points of view of something happening and whose at fault for them. Every time each story is different. This was also no different.

Each versions were interesting and unique in their own way. But each also had a somewhat OOC pony.

What was with 'pirate Applejack' in Rarity's version? That was creepy and funny all at the same time.  X3

The Rarity in Pinkie's version was quite the jerk. It made it seem like she felt she was 'above' Applejack and Pinkie.  :l

The Applejack version of Pinkie was... kind of creepy honestly...  :I

Twilight has come to save the day two episodes in a row now. Good for her.  ^-^

A new monster/beast was introduced as well. It's always cool and interesting when they do that.  :)

The monster actually seemed quite pleasant. If that's really what it's like... I'd be friends with it.  :D

Twilight always figuring out the truth. She's quite the mystery solver.  ^-^

In the end there wasn't anything 'amazing' or 'outstanding' in this episode but it was still interesting, had it's moments, and I still enjoyed it.

:)
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Oct 08, 18:15:45
S6E23 thoughts below, in spoilers, as normal.

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Backstory episodes are always interesting and intriguing because it reveals more about certain characters. This one was no different.

Wow, Big Mac was quite the chatterbox in the past!! To be completely honest, I'm glad he doesn't talk like that now, it'd actually be kind of annoying and too much talking.  X3

It wasn't that surprising when Applejack's lies started making this worse and worse and it just got compounded when she made more and more lies. This is actually a good moral because constantly lying will only make your problems worse and not better.  :I

It's good to know that Filthy Rich's wife was just as much of a jerkass in the past that she is now. At least she's consistent?  :s

I actually just really liked this episode in general because it gave us more backstory on Applejack, as well as Big Mac, and how she developed her honesty streak.

I tend to like backstory episodes because we get a better 'feel' for characters and how they developed who they are.

The episode itself, once again, may not have been 'outstanding' or 'amazing' but I still liked it due to the fact that it was a backstory episode.

^-^
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Oct 15, 17:44:08
S6E24 thoughts are below in spoilers.

Spoiler: show
I don't think there's much I can say about this one. Not that it's a bad thing.

The running gag of Rainbow Dash having to go back to the Wonderbolt Headquarters was actually legitimately funny. To me anyway.  :P

Twilight shows off her funny self once again when she gets excited about teaching.  X3

Now about the actual episode and the characters. I actually liked Vapor Trail. She was cute. Plus, I can kind of understood her dilemma about being an only child as I am an only child myself. I don't think my parents smothered me with love like Vapor's parents seemed to be doing, but there were certainly moments where they did spoil me at times. Did I take advantage of that? Maybe. Guess it comes with being an only child but I understood her dilemma nonetheless.

As for Sky I couldn't understand his dilemma, as, like I said, I was an only child and didn't have any siblings. He was way to cocky for his own good. His ego was way too high. Kind of made me not like him.  :l

However Vapor wanting to help him was understandable I suppose. But she helped him too much. This lead to the obvious problem. Vapor just wanted to be with Sky. What is she, his shadow?  :s

Well either way the episode where Sky and Vapor were trained by Twilight and Rainbow was actually pretty cool and I liked it. Because it showed that you can accomplish whatever you want if you put your mind to it and actually put the necessary work/training/whatever into it and give it your all. Work hard and you achieve results. I actually kind of liked that moral.

Not much else I can say. Looks like Vapor and Sky are on their way to possibly becoming Wonderbolts. Let's just hope they don't become better than Rainbow Dash for their sakes and Rainbow Dash's.  X3

Either way this was a pretty 'okay' episode and I enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: LostSanity on 2016 Oct 22, 19:00:52
Well... you should all know what to expect from me at this point. In other words, don't be surprised at what's below here. So, it's going to be in spoilers for 'those' kinds of people so they can just ignore it.

S6 Finale thoughts below.

Spoiler: show
To be completely honest... I'm not sure what I can say here.

Starlight doesn't want to be in charge again huh? Well... MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T DESERVE TO. JUST LIKE SHE DOESN'T DESERVE ALL THIS CRAP THAT'S BEEN GIVEN TO HER ON A SILVER PLATTER. Why does that seem familiar? Seth Rollins? Kevin Owens? No? Just me? Whatever.  :l

I liked the Derpy part though.  :P

Plus I liked Luna being in this even though she was being too nice to Starlight.

So... why is this show expecting me to like Trixie? Because that's NEVER going to happen. I'm sorry it's just not. Trixie is an egotistical self righteous jerk who clearly goes out of her way to get on Twilight's nerve's. That's not 'funny.' That's idiotic and proves she doesn't learn ANYTHING.

Oh good. We're going to throw Discord into this too. Because... you know... that'll totally make me like this episode more.  :l

I love how he continues to prove how much of a jerk he is. He only cares about Fluttershy and no one else. OH WAIT. NO I DON'T. I DON'T LIKE THIS AT ALL.   >:/

I'm actually okay with Thorax though. Still... I really don't understand this. I would have enjoyed this episode a whole lot more if the team was the Slice of Life characters. Seriously. I would have. How come they couldn't have done them instead?  :s

I will admit a few things however.

First off, Chrysalis' plan was actually pretty decent and well thought out. Practically all the ponies were out of commission. So, instead, we have to rely on a bunch of NOT REDEEMED side characters (sans one) to save us.

I will admit though, I like them trying to have 'side characters' having to rescue the Mane 6 from the evil. I just wish it would have been other characters.

However, I liked the Discord and Trixie bickering. That was quite funny and good.  X3

So now we move on to the actual rescue mission. Which, I'll once again admit, had it's moments. Trixie's illusions actually being good and useful?! Discord doing ridiculous bad comedy that works as a distraction?! It was all shocking, ridiculous, and great all at the same time.  :P

To be even more honest though, and I REALLY hate to admit this, but despite Starlight not wanting to be in charge of something, the plans she came up with were actually pretty decent and well thought out. Especially at the end.  o_O

Now of course... the moment of truth. Thorax being the key wasn't really all that surprising honestly. Then that transformation... WHAT?! I mean... at least there were other Changelings that seemed to realize how much of a crazy tyrant Chrysalis was... but seriously... what the hell was that supposed to be?! A deer? A deer bug?! Not that I'm saying it was ugly or anything. It was just... kind of... weird...  o.O

Honestly... I kind of see what other people were saying about these 'new' Changelings not catching on. Because I don't think they will. It's possible they might if we see more of them, but, I suppose it will depend on the person in question.  :\

However... THANK GOD CHRYSALIS WASN'T REDEEMED OR REFORMED AT THE END. SERIOUSLY. I AM SO FREAKING SICK AND TIRED OF THIS REDEEMED/REFORMED CRAP. If that would have happened... I don't think I would have been able to take this crap anymore. I probably would have left the fandom. THANK GOD FOR NO CRYSALIS REDEEMPTION.

So... overall?

I'd say... it's about the same as the S6 premier was. However... it was probably better than the premier.

So... in summary...

It wasn't 'great' but it wasn't 'awful' either.

I'm sorry. Really I am. But I'm just NEVER going to like Discord and Trixie and I could care less about Starlight. This will likely never change either. EVER.

My main issue was the characters and the team. That's basically my issue with it. But it's a legitimate issue. To me anyway.

So... overall... I'd say...

S6 was 'average.' It had it's moments and a few decent episodes but that's about it really.

I guess I should just be glad that something else didn't happen that would be my 'last straw' to make me leave the fandom. Which I am.

Here's hoping S7 is better.


Controversy abound as always,

LostSanity
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Stardust Dragon on 2016 Oct 23, 21:28:57
Season 6 finale:
Spoiler: show
Overall feeling: Not bad.  Again had the elements of a rushed conclusion that I struggle to live with, but like I've said before this show kind of relies on them in one respect, works with/around them later.  So I'll try to wait til season 7 before I condemn any actions.

Now as for the details...

I liked how our quartet of heroes came together, it seemed like it would make sense...except maybe why Thorax was sneaking about in changeling form in the forest near the castle.  Everyone in the castle knows what his pony form looks like, why wouldn't he just walk up and knock on the front door? 

Explaining Chrysalis' throne needs a little expansion, but I can accept it.  It might actually lend credence to a fanfiction notion I made involving one of my characters, if I stretched it enough...but that's not for here.  The rest of the world-building was interesting, though I have to wonder if the fact that Equestria is making all these connections to every other race on the planet is going to lead somewhere down the line...

Loved Chrysalis not being reformed at the end.  I kind of want her to stay a villain til the end of the series at least: I heard it pointed out that not everyone is receptive to change, and I think having a major threat be treated like that would be a good, balancing lesson this show seems pretty good at keeping up with.

I finally started to feel like Starlight is being redeemed.  I'm still wary of her, but the fact that she showed a conscious fear of how easy it could be for her to slip back into her power-hungry state made me realize she has been changing: her instincts might need work (still looking at you, Every Little Thing She Does), but Starlight is aware of why this is terrible.  Her endorsement from my princess Luna certainly didn't hurt, though I'm not convinced by her "I see much of myself in you" remark...

Trixie was also a fun addition to the story.  I have not been her biggest supporter (in fact she still drives me up the wall; it's that arrogant attitude of hers), but I'm convinced she'll take that breaking speech Discord gave her to heart.  I don't want her to give up performing, but I'd love for it to teach her just a little modesty while offstage.  Plus the idea of her and Discord teaming up to create a chaos-fueled stage show is just too great to pass up.

As for the new changeling designs...eh.  I sort of like the basic form save their tails, it does make them a distinct race and not just "ponies with something new attached", lets them be unique within their own culture thanks to the new colors, but I kind of liked the form we've become used to seeing.  That, and Thorax's new design just looks awful: I think it's mainly those bug-pincer antlers of his, it just looks ridiculous. 

And one more thing about the changelings: I can respect that they were repressed by Chrysalis' orders, but within moments of being shown another way, they can start to openly share love with others?  Something that I suspect took most of "Times They Are A Changeling" to accomplish for one, abnormal changeling?  This is probably more the "rushed ending" issue of mine again, but suddenly having the entire hive transform after only one changeling, which had been marked a deviant and traitor, showed off this unique trick.  Sorry, I just don't buy they figured that out so quickly...I wouldn't have a problem with them taking time to reflect on it, still rejecting Chrysalis but not grasping it and transforming just yet, but that went past reflection and into full-on embracing an entirely different approach to life far too quickly for my tastes.
Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Icy Shield on 2016 Oct 23, 21:55:37
S6 finalle thoughts...  :l

Spoiler: show
I hate it... This finalle made me think to quit watching this show >:/

I have quite a lot problem with it. Some of them is my "bias" view, but other is legit. So...
An entire season finale that completly focused on Starlight Glimmer? Well good for her, but I dislike that character and completly stole the spotlight of all main 6 in the episode makes me angry. Writters forced Starlight to became part of the main 6 so easily with out proper development and earnandship. She haven't even got punished for puting entire Equestria timeline in danger. The spot in the main 6 for my oppinion should be earned and not forced by simple reformation. Even Discord after his long reformation is only side/supportive character to the main 6 and he had a lot more better and well deserved reformation than Starlight's

Next thing: all alicorn princesses got all captured. How did challengings did that? And omg writters once again show how useless Princeses luna and Celestia. And Celestia got defeated second time by Chrysalis. How dissapointing...  :facehoof:

What's the point of all mighty Discord in the story if he almost did nothing?

Another thing that I also didn't liked is how out of nowhere changling transformation to ...whatever they became happend. This feels so odd  and cheesy resolution of story plot.

EDIT: There was some good things in the finalle, but right now I'm just too upset to talk about positives...Sorry  :c

Title: Re: Season 6 Discussion Thread
Post by: Asriel on 2016 Dec 10, 15:43:09
My thoughts on the finale:

Spoiler: show
I liked it. No, really. I think I'm not as mad as some people at the big changes that happened. I, for one, can see how the Changelings might have captured the princesses. Anyway, the shift in focus isn't really a bother to me anymore. But that mostly has to do with how I now view the show itself. Personally, if the writers are forming a new main cast of characters, with the Main 6 having already achieved their destinies... I'm fine with that, to be honest.

The show has become (for me) a long well-developed, animated fanfiction. It has long departed from what I consider to be canon. (Mostly after the Flurry Heart episode). I'm not mad. My head-canon is enough for me anyway. And I can make up my own stories just fine.

In the meantime, I can watch a rather good animated show about ponies. Overall, a win-win.