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MLP: FiM SD Archive / Re: Regarding Applejack's parents. Spoilers from Apple Family Reunion.
2012 Dec 24, 04:09:01Spoiler: show
The picture on the wall seems to be a reference to "American Gothic", an artists interpretation of mens and womens roles in the 20th century. It's possible the ponies in the picture do not actually exist, but are instead the imagination of an artist.
Based on the two, they share very similar qualities, it's even the same house in the background. I don't think I've ever seen that building design anywhere, so it might simply be a peice of famous artwork.
The two pictures share some similarities, but it seems the coat and mane colors have reversed. It also decipts an Earth pony running on clouds, with flowers and a sun shining down on her. I believe it might be something Applejack or Applebloom painted, but I don't know who they drew, if it was somepony they knew.
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If I had to make a wild assumption, at least one of the parents are alive and well. Like Applejack's motive to leave the farm for a sophisticated life, they might have had an ambition to leave the farm and their children behind, giving the responsibility to Granny Smith. All the children seems to have no recollection of their parents, since they are never directly referenced, but I think Granny Smith would have some kind of contact with her own children who borne Applejack, Big Mac, and Applebloom; especially since she watches over them. Granny Smith also recieved Applebloom at some point (in or out of the presence of Applejack and Big Mac), possibly earlier then Applebloom can remember in her infancy.
If at least one of the parents are alive, I think the reason the parents don't write or attend any of the Apple family traditions are because they are afraid of revealing themselves to the children, perhaps of fear of being rejected. If the parents were absent for practically their childrens entire lives, then suddenly appearing and claiming to be their parents... If the parents do have contact somehow with their mother, Granny Smith, they probably want to remain anonymous to the children or have the children consider them accidentally deceased.
I'm probably thinking far too hard into this. I have my doubts the parents will ever be addressed in the show, and leave the fandom to make their own assumptions and conclusions. I think it could make a strong "Applejack meets her parents for first time" episode, but that's for the writers to decide. Until then, I probably shouldn't lose sleep trying to form deep hypothesis' around her parents.
Based on the two, they share very similar qualities, it's even the same house in the background. I don't think I've ever seen that building design anywhere, so it might simply be a peice of famous artwork.
The two pictures share some similarities, but it seems the coat and mane colors have reversed. It also decipts an Earth pony running on clouds, with flowers and a sun shining down on her. I believe it might be something Applejack or Applebloom painted, but I don't know who they drew, if it was somepony they knew.
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If I had to make a wild assumption, at least one of the parents are alive and well. Like Applejack's motive to leave the farm for a sophisticated life, they might have had an ambition to leave the farm and their children behind, giving the responsibility to Granny Smith. All the children seems to have no recollection of their parents, since they are never directly referenced, but I think Granny Smith would have some kind of contact with her own children who borne Applejack, Big Mac, and Applebloom; especially since she watches over them. Granny Smith also recieved Applebloom at some point (in or out of the presence of Applejack and Big Mac), possibly earlier then Applebloom can remember in her infancy.
If at least one of the parents are alive, I think the reason the parents don't write or attend any of the Apple family traditions are because they are afraid of revealing themselves to the children, perhaps of fear of being rejected. If the parents were absent for practically their childrens entire lives, then suddenly appearing and claiming to be their parents... If the parents do have contact somehow with their mother, Granny Smith, they probably want to remain anonymous to the children or have the children consider them accidentally deceased.
I'm probably thinking far too hard into this. I have my doubts the parents will ever be addressed in the show, and leave the fandom to make their own assumptions and conclusions. I think it could make a strong "Applejack meets her parents for first time" episode, but that's for the writers to decide. Until then, I probably shouldn't lose sleep trying to form deep hypothesis' around her parents.
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MLP: FiM SD Archive / Re: Regarding Applejack's parents. Spoilers from Apple Family Reunion.
2012 Dec 23, 03:29:13Spoiler: show
There's no definitive proof that Sibsy's confirmation of the shooting stars connection to AJ's parents means her parents are deceased. It's assumed that her parents are deceased, in tandem with Lauren Faust's commentary, but it's not been made specifically canon yet.
My own theory is that Applejack's parents are not deceased, and are instead missing and/or out of contact with the Apple family. I found something very interesting in Applejack's segment in Cutie Mark Chronicles...
In Cutie Mark Chronicles...
A filly Applejack leaves behind the "muddly, old apple farm" for Manehattan, seeking a "sophisticated" life. There she meets her Aunt and Uncle Orange, and they took her in. At one point, a homesick Applejack looks out a window from her room. She mutterred what I believe is a very important line:
"*poorly imitates a rooster and sighs deeply* I wonder what Granny Smith and Big Macintosh are up to. I bet they're applebucking their way through the red delicious trees. Oh, what I wouldn't give for just one bite."
In whatever case, Applejack is homesick and she specifically mentions Granny Smith and Big Macintosh. However, the primary fact here is that she does not mention either of her own parents or Applebloom. Also, her parents are not seen at the farm waving farewell during Applejack's exit or happily greeting her return to the farm.
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The only contradition I can identify here is if Applebloom was already born prior to Applejack getting her Cutie Mark by returning to the Apple farm. Under a specific scenario, if Applebloom was alive, she might have already been on the farm as a foal, meaning the parents could be considered deceased at this point. Based on previous experiences with foals, they seem to become very active within a month of birth and show some signs of common sense. Judging from Baby Cakes and Apple Family Reunion, foals are also shown to go outside, sometimes unsupervised. If Applebloom was born and a foal, she could have been there to meet Applejack's return to the farm. Since Applebloom was omitted from the exit and return scene, she was either convieniently asleep in the farmhouse, not born yet, or in the care of Applejack's parents.
There's another thing that eludes my logic is how Applebloom came to live on the farm... She obviously lives on the farm. Applebloom is Applejack/Big Macintosh's younger sister, so that means Applebloom was born from Applejack's parents. It's possible Applebloom was dropped on the farm at some point, but if it's any period around Applejack getting her Cutie Mark, she would at least be able to meet or remember her parents, if only momentarilly. If Applebloom was dropped off in the middle of the night or in a place Applejack/Big Mac could not meet their parents, it could be questioned if Applebloom is truely their sister and not a niece or relative or somepony they took in.
That comes back to the point why they weren't mentioned anywhere at anytime. The picture on the wall in the farm house (decipting a ponified version of the famous drawing: "American Gothic") isn't proof those were the parents. The confirmation that the shooting stars are a "tip of the hat" to Applejack's parents may or may not imply they are deceased. It could mean anything. The only "canon" proof supporting their deaths are from a commentary with Lauren Faust, stating that the parents are probably deceased. However, it's up to the show runners if they choose to allow Applejack to have living parents.
Until it is brought up in the show itself, I believe the fate of Applejack's parents are a mystery to all.
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