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Title: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Bro1997 on 2014 Aug 09, 19:39:18
I really do believe ponies shouldn't be segregated to just little girls between 2 and 11 years of age. Are woman even allowed to enjoy ponies or are all adults and anyone over the age of 11 and not a female considered "an outcast or unworthy of society" because they are liking MLP? The social evolution of ponies has gone to the wrong direction and should be more unisex in general. I hope that G5 will be aimed for both boys and girls and that Hasbro would consider making all it's franchises for both boys and girls someday. It isn't right for people to bully over something so innocent. If you know what I mean!
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Reginald27 on 2014 Aug 09, 19:58:01
i could go on long paragraphs about how people are mean, just because they are. and those "bullies" will try making fun of anyone about anything to make themselves feel better for what ever inexcusable reason that isnt a norm to them.

but honestly depending on where you are and how mature the people around you are, im sure people will make fun of others in a high school environment and in work area where their is little disciplinary action.

i have never been made fun of about it ever since i become open say to people "yea, i like my little pony" when they ask. tho i dont go around showing everyone hey im a brony what what i draw catches peoples attention most times.

even now in the air force no one ever makes fun of me in my time i have been serving probably half the reasons is because we look out for one another (and the other half would be because you would get an Artical 15 for "bullying/harassing") and i even finding other fellow airmen who are bronies.

so will it ever die out? no, i highly doubt it because their will aways be some one who just hast to not agree or be ok with it but it dosne mean you wont find a community like this everywhere you go.
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Midnight Breeze on 2014 Aug 09, 20:15:05
Do we really need another thread about this? And no, it won't go away during your lifetime. Social evolution takes longer than that.

Quote from: Reginald27 on 2014 Aug 09, 19:58:01
i could go on long paragraphs about how people are mean, just because they are. and those "bullies" will try making fun of anyone about anything to make themselves feel better for what ever inexcusable reason that isn't a norm to them.


What you have to understand is that most bullies aren't evil. They are just kids. Many of them bully because they go through terrible things like abuse at home that you never see or know about. They then pick on those weaker than them in order to feel in control of something, to regain lost self esteem and adequacy.

Of course, that doesn't mean bullying is in any way acceptable, but when you look at it from another prospective it kind of makes you feel as sorry for them as their victims.
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Reginald27 on 2014 Aug 09, 20:49:27
Quote from: Midnight Breeze on 2014 Aug 09, 20:15:05
Do we really need another thread about this? And no, it won't go away during your lifetime. Social evolution takes longer than that.

Quote from: Reginald27 on 2014 Aug 09, 19:58:01
i could go on long paragraphs about how people are mean, just because they are. and those "bullies" will try making fun of anyone about anything to make themselves feel better for what ever inexcusable reason that isn't a norm to them.


What you have to understand is that most bullies aren't evil. They are just kids. Many of them bully because they go through terrible things like abuse at home that you never see or know about. They then pick on those weaker than them in order to feel in control of something, to regain lost self esteem and adequacy.

Of course, that doesn't mean bullying is in any way acceptable, but when you look at it from another prospective it kind of makes you feel as sorry for them as their victims.


very true i do agree that many people who bully is because of how they were rised, how they are treated, or because they were/are bullied a lot too, i never will say that they are evil just miss understood, tho what choices they make when it comes to bullying is and forever will be unacceptable and they will learn one way or another depending on the actions that are taken, and the best way to solve all issues is as you said, learn it from both sides
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Tiger on 2014 Aug 09, 22:40:42
I'm 14 (turning 15) with a Pinkie Pie badge on my school bag, (The Rainbow Dash badge fell off ;-;) and no one really bullies about it :U

Nobody really cares whether anyone likes ponies or not around here though. Or maybe it's because I'm a girl? Then again, I know this teacher in my school that's well-known for liking ponies XD

Anyway, if somebody bullies you for liking ponies, or for anything really, just answer them in the most polite way possible. People do these kinds of things because they want to see the enraged reactions of their victims. If you do the exact opposite, they'll stop bothering you.

I know it always works for me XD
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: GlassMirror on 2014 Aug 09, 22:54:16
Im a girl who use to despise mlp, but ever since this season came out I started liking it. I don't talk about some things because I know how the people are around me is (immature), so that's why I don't have any mlp stuff (not that I want it anyway lol )
Title: Re: Is the \"Ponies for Little Girls\" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Bro1997 on 2014 Aug 09, 23:36:32
Quote from: Midnight Breeze on 2014 Aug 09, 20:15:05
Do we really need another thread about this? And no, it won't go away during your lifetime. Social evolution takes longer than that.

Quote from: Reginald27 on 2014 Aug 09, 19:58:01
i could go on long paragraphs about how people are mean, just because they are. and those "bullies" will try making fun of anyone about anything to make themselves feel better for what ever inexcusable reason that isn't a norm to them.


What you have to understand is that most bullies aren't evil. They are just kids. Many of them bully because they go through terrible things like abuse at home that you never see or know about. They then pick on those weaker than them in order to feel in control of something, to regain lost self esteem and adequacy.

Of course, that doesn't mean bullying is in any way acceptable, but when you look at it from another prospective it kind of makes you feel as sorry for them as their victims.

Yes, but that doesn't mean that they are kids. They could be adults as well. People could be thinking bad thoughts about you. Do you really think that social evolution of ponies won't ever change? Remember as I said before, this all started in the 1920s with "Pony books". The oldest is the 1877 Black Beauty. That's what started this whole mess.

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Quote from: GlassMirror on 2014 Aug 09, 22:54:16
Im a girl who use to despise mlp, but ever since this season came out I started liking it. I don't talk about some things because I know how the people are around me is (immature), so that's why I don't have any mlp stuff (not that I want it anyway lol )

They might not understand bronies well. Most people believe that ponies are for little girls and that it is not normal for most boys my age to like ponies.
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Kirru on 2014 Aug 13, 12:02:35
I really think that because MLP has been out long enough for people to accept it, It's gotten a bit better. I do wish they would bring a LOT more Stallions into the series but that might be me as a girl who likes to gawk at guys too. My brother is a huge brony, I mean he watches streams of people watching streams of people watching the episode... He makes youtube videos on his reaction to episodes and if anything he only gets bullied about who he is(He has aspergers), him being a brony only helps him get along better in school it seems. It gives him an outlet and something to laugh at that other boys like also. My area also has a larger 'nerd' and 'otaku' population (DFW, Texas) so I may not be seeing it as much as others are elsewhere... It's common to be an anime freak or a brony here xD I see people at my wal-mart dressed as Batman for no apparent reason.



And yeah... I've noticed a lot of these 'Why are Bronies hidden' type threads... wtb combination technology of threadedness? :D
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: my_name_is_not on 2014 Aug 13, 16:35:49
please watch the language and read over the forums rules
thank you - McSleuth
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Dream Bolt on 2014 Aug 18, 00:17:32
Mean people, insecure people, and bullies will always try to find a way to criticize others. Throughout the ages, violence and cruelty have been lauded by such people s a sign of strength, while kindness, innocence, and love have been regarded as weak. (Most likely such people who criticize these things have an underlying jealousy, as their minds are filled with anger and sadness, and they continue to feed those though their pursuits.)

It's not just "ponies are for girls". It is the mentality of humanity as a whole. Ponies are sweet and kind, and encourage such behavior. Sadly, there will always be people who, for some sad, inexplicable reason, seem to hate the sweet and lovable, and perhaps even secretly fear it, for it reminds them of how unkind they are and how bleak the world they have made for themselves is.

But on the bright side, bronies seem to really be spreading. Apparently a lot of people are getting tired of the bleak, the cruel, and the violent, and are just unafraid to admit that they want a little happiness, sweetness, and love in their lives.
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: cloudwilk on 2014 Aug 18, 08:06:58
I really hope this goes away. I feel it's possible the more people mix with things that are socially deemed unacceptable BUT are harmless in every way. The social standards not set up by logic and/or backed by fact do not really need a place here. (Emotional considerations and all, of course. For humans are an emotional specie and it is logical to recognize where pain and happiness collide/separate. With the progressing of the race, I should hope we establish what logically should make us sad and what shouldn't.)

In regards to the comment defending bully's innocence (or at least trying to get people to back away from being harsh) I do not feel the same way. Some kids are bully's, not because they were abused as a child, but just because of raising or it just makes them feel tough. Nothing has to happen for them to ruin another kid's life. Granted, there are times when that is the case, and it is when they are no longer the bully but the victim do I feel sorry. But in every case the bully is the, well, bully, I feel to regret for the punishment they should take. Honestly, they barely get enough. The worst thing that works against them is people's reaction later in life to how asinine picking on people is. Well... I guess it depends on how bad the circumstance. They're are certain cases where the bully and the victim are truly not as clear as it would seem. Of course, in those cases, perhaps better terms would suit the situation.
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Nuserame on 2014 Aug 18, 12:09:01
Seeing as gender roles and bullying have existed since before humans could be called humans, my most optimistic guess is 'not anytime soon'.

Quote from: cloudwilk on 2014 Aug 18, 08:06:58
In regards to the comment defending bully's innocence (or at least trying to get people to back away from being harsh) I do not feel the same way. Some kids are bully's, not because they were abused as a child, but just because of raising or it just makes them feel tough. Nothing has to happen for them to ruin another kid's life. Granted, there are times when that is the case, and it is when they are no longer the bully but the victim do I feel sorry. But in every case the bully is the, well, bully, I feel to regret for the punishment they should take. Honestly, they barely get enough. The worst thing that works against them is people's reaction later in life to how asinine picking on people is. Well... I guess it depends on how bad the circumstance. They're are certain cases where the bully and the victim are truly not as clear as it would seem. Of course, in those cases, perhaps better terms would suit the situation.


This might be more true than you think. Bullying goes way back in human evolution, every single culture on earth and even baboons do it. Its not out of retaliation, or because the bully got a raw deal in life, its purely to harm, intimidate, coerce and generally 'diminuate' another for the sake of satisfaction and status. Its an example of instinctive pack animal behavior where a member or group of the pack tries to heighten their own standing, in this case by lowering that of another.

Its pretty much impossible to root out entirely, though suppressing the worst should be possible. There is quite a large difference in the amount of bullying per culture so that should mean that in theory its possible to reduce it.

Though judging the 'anti bullying campaigns' I have come across I say we have a long way to go...

Heres a pretty good article if anyone feels like getting sciency! (everyone should be sciency every now and then :I) http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2011/12/15/the-origins-of-bullying/
Title: Re: Is the \"Ponies for Little Girls\" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Bro1997 on 2014 Aug 22, 21:41:04
Quote from: Dream Bolt on 2014 Aug 18, 00:17:32
Mean people, insecure people, and bullies will always try to find a way to criticize others. Throughout the ages, violence and cruelty have been lauded by such people s a sign of strength, while kindness, innocence, and love have been regarded as weak. (Most likely such people who criticize these things have an underlying jealousy, as their minds are filled with anger and sadness, and they continue to feed those though their pursuits.)

It's not just "ponies are for girls". It is the mentality of humanity as a whole. Ponies are sweet and kind, and encourage such behavior. Sadly, there will always be people who, for some sad, inexplicable reason, seem to hate the sweet and lovable, and perhaps even secretly fear it, for it reminds them of how unkind they are and how bleak the world they have made for themselves is.

But on the bright side, bronies seem to really be spreading. Apparently a lot of people are getting tired of the bleak, the cruel, and the violent, and are just unafraid to admit that they want a little happiness, sweetness, and love in their lives.

There seems to have been a lot of violence in the world over the last hundred years especially. I think over the last thousand years men were intended to be considered strong and powerful while women were weak and worthless. Most empires and nations up to the 1920s didn't think women were worthy of society and never were allowed into wars and other manly jobs. Just as men were not allowed or discouraged from doing women jobs like cooking and cleaning.  All I can say is that bullying will never end because that's the nature of our world. It's not different with religion, culture, race, and other beliefs. People don't understand the idea of being sweet and kind which is what we are supposed to be. We shouldn't treat anyone with disrespect and should tolerate everything just as the ponies do. The world wasn't built like the pony world. There's no magic, no tolerance, and hatred seems to be everywhere. All I can say is to just be yourself and try not to think suicidal thoughts, as some young bronies have. 

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Quote from: cloudwilk on 2014 Aug 18, 08:06:58
I really hope this goes away. I feel it's possible the more people mix with things that are socially deemed unacceptable BUT are harmless in every way. The social standards not set up by logic and/or backed by fact do not really need a place here. (Emotional considerations and all, of course. For humans are an emotional specie and it is logical to recognize where pain and happiness collide/separate. With the progressing of the race, I should hope we establish what logically should make us sad and what shouldn't.)

In regards to the comment defending bully's innocence (or at least trying to get people to back away from being harsh) I do not feel the same way. Some kids are bully's, not because they were abused as a child, but just because of raising or it just makes them feel tough. Nothing has to happen for them to ruin another kid's life. Granted, there are times when that is the case, and it is when they are no longer the bully but the victim do I feel sorry. But in every case the bully is the, well, bully, I feel to regret for the punishment they should take. Honestly, they barely get enough. The worst thing that works against them is people's reaction later in life to how asinine picking on people is. Well... I guess it depends on how bad the circumstance. They're are certain cases where the bully and the victim are truly not as clear as it would seem. Of course, in those cases, perhaps better terms would suit the situation.

I'm not sure that'll happen, Cloudwilk. It's been 140 years since this trend started with 1877's Black Beauty the first "pony book" which was actually about a horse. I just don't get why we should care if people make fun of us if we like ponies? Will it end up on Facebook or something?
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Pipkin on 2014 Aug 23, 02:10:17
Hey guys, just a friendly reminder, make sure you don't bring up any topics that are against the rules in your posts.  Thanks :)
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: cloudwilk on 2014 Aug 23, 07:18:04
I've been trying to dodge the gender-thing rule~ And religion, politic thing....

I could explain that but I don't want to. I feel now that the traction has shifted to directly what it is and with today's ever so wide culture so people don't hide it, this fandom will leave an impact on reforming our opinions about what people can and can't get into. I don't think it will be revolutionary exactly, but I do think this will leave an impact that will better the world. ^^
Title: Re: Is the \"Ponies for Little Girls\" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Bro1997 on 2014 Aug 23, 22:51:58
Quote from: Pipkin on 2014 Aug 23, 02:10:17
Hey guys, just a friendly reminder, make sure you don't bring up any topics that are against the rules in your posts.  Thanks :)

Not being rude, but what topics are we bringing up? Is bullying something bad to talk about?

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Quote from: cloudwilk on 2014 Aug 23, 07:18:04
I've been trying to dodge the gender-thing rule~ And religion, politic thing....

I could explain that but I don't want to. I feel now that the traction has shifted to directly what it is and with today's ever so wide culture so people don't hide it, this fandom will leave an impact on reforming our opinions about what people can and can't get into. I don't think it will be revolutionary exactly, but I do think this will leave an impact that will better the world. ^^

Well, I hope. Still believe it won't be until at least 2114 (100 years after 2014) or even longer like 2150 or somewhere around that time that the idea of ponies being socially acceptable only at little girls will come to an end. Who knows, it might not be until 3014 (1000 years after 2014) that this whole trend will end. People need to lighten up and accept people's differences. Accept the personality of people and the careers they do and not what they enjoy. Unless it is deemed illegal. Some members like Midnight Breeze explained that this trend won't end in our lifetime so that's where I'm getting the 100 years from.
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Yuriski on 2014 Aug 24, 05:33:04
I'm a bit late to jump on the bandwagon, but I feel that it entirely depends on the whereabouts that you live, and the people you know. Out of all the people I know, a huge majority of those really do not care that I like MLP at all: sure, that's definitely not the case for everyone, but I firmly believe that humanity is slowly (but surely) moving on to the "each to their own" mindset. Obviously, I do get a few... comments... about it now and again, but I would guess that's down to the nature of those individuals.

Of course, there are 7 billion+ people on the world, and it will take time for all of them to change their opinions and become more openminded, but hopefully it won't be in 1000s of years from now, as Bro1997 has said. I'll estimate a couple decades (and well after the demise of MLP :c) before humanity will move on from these stereotypes.
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Nuserame on 2014 Aug 24, 14:22:45
Quote from: Yuriski on 2014 Aug 24, 05:33:04
I'm a bit late to jump on the bandwagon, but I feel that it entirely depends on the whereabouts that you live, and the people you know. Out of all the people I know, a huge majority of those really do not care that I like MLP at all: sure, that's definitely not the case for everyone, but I firmly believe that humanity is slowly (but surely) moving on to the "each to their own" mindset. Obviously, I do get a few... comments... about it now and again, but I would guess that's down to the nature of those individuals.

Of course, there are 7 billion+ people on the world, and it will take time for all of them to change their opinions and become more openminded, but hopefully it won't be in 1000s of years from now, as Bro1997 has said. I'll estimate a couple decades (and well after the demise of MLP :c) before humanity will move on from these stereotypes.


Call my cynical, but thats definitely not going to happen in a few decades. Some of the younger generations in the more populated areas of the western world, maybe. Anywhere outside there, well don't expect it in out lifetime. I don't know if you have ever been outside the western world and actually conversed with people there for an extended period of time (or had online friend from eastern Europe or something) but they aren't as free thinking.
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Yuriski on 2014 Aug 24, 18:19:44
Quote from: Nuserame on 2014 Aug 24, 14:22:45
Call my cynical, but thats definitely not going to happen in a few decades. Some of the younger generations in the more populated areas of the western world, maybe. Anywhere outside there, well don't expect it in out lifetime. I don't know if you have ever been outside the western world and actually conversed with people there for an extended period of time (or had online friend from eastern Europe or something) but they aren't as free thinking.


I know quite a few people from eastern europe, and I have to agree with you on that point. In a few decades however, many many things have changed in the past. Compare the 1960s with now, for example. Or the 1900s with the 1950s.
Title: Re: Is the \"Ponies for Little Girls\" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Bro1997 on 2014 Aug 24, 20:10:39
Quote from: Yuriski on 2014 Aug 24, 05:33:04
I'm a bit late to jump on the bandwagon, but I feel that it entirely depends on the whereabouts that you live, and the people you know. Out of all the people I know, a huge majority of those really do not care that I like MLP at all: sure, that's definitely not the case for everyone, but I firmly believe that humanity is slowly (but surely) moving on to the "each to their own" mindset. Obviously, I do get a few... comments... about it now and again, but I would guess that's down to the nature of those individuals.

Of course, there are 7 billion+ people on the world, and it will take time for all of them to change their opinions and become more openminded, but hopefully it won't be in 1000s of years from now, as Bro1997 has said. I'll estimate a couple decades (and well after the demise of MLP :c) before humanity will move on from these stereotypes.

I really don't think that all of the 7 billion people on Earth will change their opinions on things. Do you really think that people in places like China, Iran, or North Korea even believe in changes? North Koreans probably don't even have a clue what MLP is! Honestly, I agree with you. I depends on where you live. When your at work or school, it's just best to leave things like MLP at home and not bring it up unless your friends with other bronies there. People are mean and you'll only get yourself into lots of trouble and probably lose your job as well. I think that it'll take more then a couple decades however. A decade is actually 10 years and something like this won't end for centuries which one is 100 years. To me, it'll probably end around 2114 to 2150. Which is long after the majority of bronies are dead and Hasbro is in the history books of toy marketing. By that time, MLP will be like homemade dolls like in colonial times. Loved and remembered but not something children in 100 years would play with. Believe me, by 2114 MLP merchandise will be like $10,000 to $100,000 depending on how rare they are. My belief though is that MLP itself will end around roughly 2050 to 2083 depending on sales. Similar to Pokémon I guess. I really hope that both MLP and Pokémon will be around for years to come though. I LOVE both of them.

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Quote from: Yuriski on 2014 Aug 24, 18:19:44
Quote from: Nuserame on 2014 Aug 24, 14:22:45
Call my cynical, but thats definitely not going to happen in a few decades. Some of the younger generations in the more populated areas of the western world, maybe. Anywhere outside there, well don't expect it in out lifetime. I don't know if you have ever been outside the western world and actually conversed with people there for an extended period of time (or had online friend from eastern Europe or something) but they aren't as free thinking.


I know quite a few people from eastern europe, and I have to agree with you on that point. In a few decades however, many many things have changed in the past. Compare the 1960s with now, for example. Or the 1900s with the 1950s.

Not much though. We still use gas powered vehicles, televisions are still used, we still have actual FOOD and not full dinner gums like in Willy Wonka, and schools still exist as well. Sure, technology has improved and Communism and Fascism is dead but that still doesn't change the world's viewpoint on some things. Most governments in Asia are still dictatorships and countries like North Korea ban their people from even accessing the world wide web. They use a special web service that's used mostly in Pyongyang only. Similar governments also exist in the middle east and Africa. If they heard of the brony fandom, I'm certain they would be disgusted by it. I don't think that countries like China and India will accept bronies because of their cultures and beliefs. The same goes for most people in America. They don't believe that men liking ponies is right and is socially unacceptable. Sure, the younger generations might accept it a little more because of more bullying prevention programs but the older generations that grew up in the 1920s to as late as the 1990s won't believe the same things. To me, it won't change until 2114 and that's final!
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: DawnsEmbrace on 2014 Sep 01, 20:05:46
I know I'm pretty late to the party here, but there's something I've been sitting on for a while that I'd really like to say.

When someone hears "Pony", or even "Horse", they might think "Girly", or "Unmanly".  I have a few things to say that I think discredit that notion QUITE thoroughly.


For just your average everyday Horse, I ask you this.
What were considered noble steeds by many a knight and king?  You know, with SWORDS and ARMOR along with every other definition of manliness in the book!?
I'm talking chivalry, dueling, fair play, honor, dignity, oaths, you name it!
So now I ask...Why are they considered feminine?
Why are they considered something a "Man" cannot partake in?


For Pegasi, I ask another question.
What did the Disney version of Hercules ride?  Oh, you know good ol' Herc, remember your mythology?  Achiever of a dozen trials?  Slayer of deadly beasts?  He is one of the manliest men out there.
And he rode a Pegasus.
A Pegasus.

Scratch that, he rode THE Pegasus.  The original, from whom the race and species is named!
And that's just counting DISNEY.  I'm not even going to get into Perseus, or we'd be here all day.
Is that not enough for you!?  Do you actually need more to legitimize the manliness of this majestic beast?


Alright, and here is the last -And by far the worst- transgressor.

The Unicorn.
In all honesty, I don't have much of an argument for why this splendid creature shouldn't be stereotyped so badly, but hear me out.

Magic?  Check.
Fireballs?  Check.
Sleek white coat?  Check.
EPICNESS?  CHECK.

This is literally a creature of ancient power and benevolence, and you turn your nose up at it.


Okay, I'm totally done yelling now.  :ajshifty:
I suppose what I mean to say is...How did these get so stereotyped to begin with?
By all accounts, they honestly shouldn't have been.
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Night Pony on 2014 Sep 02, 04:08:01
I'm gonna assume the counter side for the sake of fun. :P

QuoteFor just your average everyday Horse, I ask you this.
What were considered noble steeds by many a knight and king?  You know, with SWORDS and ARMOR along with every other definition of manliness in the book!?
I'm talking chivalry, dueling, fair play, honor, dignity, oaths, you name it!
So now I ask...Why are they considered feminine?
Why are they considered something a "Man" cannot partake in?


Who takes care of them? Certainly not the Knights or the Kings. Also those things are long gone from modern society.

Quote
For Pegasi, I ask another question.
What did the Disney version of Hercules ride?  Oh, you know good ol' Herc, remember your mythology?  Achiever of a dozen trials?  Slayer of deadly beasts?  He is one of the manliest men out there.
And he rode a Pegasus.
A Pegasus.

Scratch that, he rode THE Pegasus.  The original, from whom the race and species is named!
And that's just counting DISNEY.  I'm not even going to get into Perseus, or we'd be here all day.
Is that not enough for you!?  Do you actually need more to legitimize the manliness of this majestic beast?


Disney movie? I'm sure that thing is for grown up mans to watch if you're using reference from that.
Then again there are men in mythology with wings on their heels! I'm sure everyone thought it's super manly.

QuoteThe Unicorn.
In all honesty, I don't have much of an argument for why this splendid creature shouldn't be stereotyped so badly, but hear me out.


It's a horse with a horn. You know what beats the unicorn in all terms and even manlyness? Dragons. There's nothing more to be said.

That sure was fun. lol Hope I didn't upset you with anything while writing this.
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: cloudwilk on 2014 Sep 03, 13:32:22
Quote from: DawnsEmbrace on 2014 Sep 01, 20:05:46
I know I'm pretty late to the party here, but there's something I've been sitting on for a while that I'd really like to say.

When someone hears "Pony", or even "Horse", they might think "Girly", or "Unmanly".  I have a few things to say that I think discredit that notion QUITE thoroughly.


For just your average everyday Horse, I ask you this.
What were considered noble steeds by many a knight and king?  You know, with SWORDS and ARMOR along with every other definition of manliness in the book!?
I'm talking chivalry, dueling, fair play, honor, dignity, oaths, you name it!
So now I ask...Why are they considered feminine?
Why are they considered something a "Man" cannot partake in?


For Pegasi, I ask another question.
What did the Disney version of Hercules ride?  Oh, you know good ol' Herc, remember your mythology?  Achiever of a dozen trials?  Slayer of deadly beasts?  He is one of the manliest men out there.
And he rode a Pegasus.
A Pegasus.

Scratch that, he rode THE Pegasus.  The original, from whom the race and species is named!
And that's just counting DISNEY.  I'm not even going to get into Perseus, or we'd be here all day.
Is that not enough for you!?  Do you actually need more to legitimize the manliness of this majestic beast?


Alright, and here is the last -And by far the worst- transgressor.

The Unicorn.
In all honesty, I don't have much of an argument for why this splendid creature shouldn't be stereotyped so badly, but hear me out.

Magic?  Check.
Fireballs?  Check.
Sleek white coat?  Check.
EPICNESS?  CHECK.

This is literally a creature of ancient power and benevolence, and you turn your nose up at it.


Okay, I'm totally done yelling now.  :ajshifty:
I suppose what I mean to say is...How did these get so stereotyped to begin with?
By all accounts, they honestly shouldn't have been.


Yes. Like I said, stereotypes aren't based off of logic. I'm sure in the future we'll begin to value truth more than tradition, whether it's good or not. It'd be great if our emotions could just be shaped around the truth instead of vice-versa.
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Nuserame on 2014 Sep 03, 14:58:38
DawnsEmbrace actually has a point. Its kinda weird how quickly horses fell out of fashion as a manly thing, just about a hundred years ago it was considered the epitome of manliness to sit on a horse while it charges at your enemies! Before horses become obsolete as a mode of transport, labour and warfare (which I should add was only around the 1960s for the first two) the stereotype was pretty much the other way around. Horses were rode into combat by men, taken care of by men (squires and stable mates, which were exclusively male, to Night Pony), and a woman riding a horse was considered inappropriate.

The 20th century was a massive shift in western culture though. So much changed from 1900 to 2000 its not entirely surprising that the stereotype surrounding horses went and flipped about, though still kind of disappointing. It just went from one kind of stupid to another.

Also its pretty much unavoidable for terrifying, evil myths and even real people to get cutyfied (at most) a hundred years later. Vlad the Impaler? Sparkly whiny teenager. Pirates? Kid show presenter. Dragons? Spike the dragon... And if you don't believe me, look up 'Cure Hitler fashion Thailand'. Wish I were kidding.

...

Quote from: DawnsEmbrace on 2014 Sep 01, 20:05:46
I'm not even going to get into Perseus, or we'd be here all day.


O:  lol
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: FruffyWuffy on 2014 Dec 30, 05:28:16
It'll be around for a long time, but at least with my experience Bronies are being hated more for the annoying part of the community, the Bronies that act like this:

Guy: My little pony isn't really my show, I watched an episode but I don't think it's for me. But Bronies can watch what they want!
Flamer Brony: U idiet u suck mlp is epic u hater i beta thon u sw@g
Guy: ???

I call them 'Flamer Bronies'. You've probably seen them somewhere on the internet, they annoy me so much.  >:/
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Hash Myth on 2015 Jan 14, 12:29:01
All I can say is I will be on youtube, playing DJ Pon3 and if anyone has a problem with it.....

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/380/696/4fc.png)
BASS CANNONED! Wub a dub dub lol
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: atarumenchi on 2015 Jan 24, 05:29:33
The harrassment will probably never end thanks to people ruining it for us.
Typically, the trolls will lurk and pop out to give us fans a bad reputation, especially the male demograph above the ages of 20+
I, myself am 32 and I enjoy the show as it is, and no one is going to tell me not to.
I can see why so many people say it's for girls, but overall, the show doesn't have the stereotypical girl feel to it at all.
It's charming, entertaining for children and adults alike, and still manages to get the messages across without feeling like a stereotypical girl's show.
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: ComeGetSome on 2015 Feb 09, 21:35:40
It's been like that since the 60's, Hasbro still advertises it like it's for girls only, the main character are all girls. I don't think it'll go away.


Archie comics was a kid's comic since the 40's now a rated T+ comic thanks to Archie's death. People still consider it as a kid's thing.

Some people forget that Pokemon is also a game, some forget that it's also a TV series.

People thought PPGs is for little girls because the main characters were female.

It's the general public. They have strange assumptions. :/
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: cloudwilk on 2015 Feb 09, 23:57:46
An all male-cast wouldn't garner the same sort of indication, though.

Well... actually... they're are exceptions to both. Sometimes, an all female cast means an male audience or a male cast means a female audience. Depends on the type of appeal.
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: ComeGetSome on 2015 Feb 10, 07:39:23
I believe the general public is just assuming that it's still a little girl's thing because Hasbro still makes it feel like that in toylines and commercials.
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: cloudwilk on 2015 Feb 10, 08:52:32
Oh yea. That's actually a really good reason. I kinda forgot about the ads and whatnot cause I just watch the show and see the fancontent... Overall, it appears pretty gender-neutral.

But yea. The ads are completely stereotypical.
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: derpyhooves0 on 2015 Feb 22, 10:03:46
Eeyep And it'll end righhhhhhhtttttttttt Now.Now?Now!noooowwwwww!!NOW!!!!
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: PoetryInMotion on 2015 Mar 02, 16:53:58
The way I am inclined to look at the whole "brony, anti brony" thing is, why should I care what others may think of me? I am simply put who I am, take me our leave me, tis no skin off my nose, not that I go around yelling "I am a brony" but neither will I deny it, it is part of what I am.
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Cyber Demon on 2015 Mar 09, 14:29:52
I can honestly say this show is for all ages and gender. Take the Powerpuff Girls for example, it's there on that television screen and you feel like you can watch it all day because you got nothing else better to do. Sure it can be a surprise if a middle aged man had a room full of My Little Pony merchandise but if it's what makes them happy and is causing no harm, then just leave them that way.

I doubt that the hate will ever end even if this went on for a century. We live in a world where barely anyone can be accepted for who they are, so all we going to have to do is what the haters should be doing; live with it since there's no other choice.
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: electro-blitz on 2015 Mar 22, 09:08:21
My answer might be short, but i think this will end the same way like with that "girls arent supposed to play games" thing a long while back.

Its just a matter of time if i would need to guess ;)
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Shadow-Flare on 2015 Mar 31, 20:13:23
I think people will just stop caring evenly cause that seems to happen alto or if this goes on long enough it will become the norm
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: atarumenchi on 2015 Apr 13, 14:02:14
One thing that I'd like to point out is that everyone still has a child-like spirit inside them.  My opinion: forget all this "for girls" or "for boys" crap and watch what you like because YOU like it. 

If you like crime dramas, great.  If you like cartoons, wonderful.  If you like anime, good on ya.  If you like romance comedies, great.  Just don't slam us down based on bias assumptions of what kids/adults should and should not watch. 

As for parents, it's up to THEM to regulate what their child watches and up to them to tell them the differences between consequences of actions they watch on TV vs real life (even in cartoons that show characters getting flattened and getting back up like nothing).
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Cobalt Crafter on 2015 Apr 13, 22:54:07
High schoolers, high schoolers never change...  :l
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: PoetryInMotion on 2015 Apr 17, 12:33:26
Well, I am a Pegasister, almost 60 years of age and still going strong, but when I was young, I was bullied for anything, I was not the best in sports, not the best in math, and so on... Yeah, fun life, my parents and grandfather did not exactly think much of me either, both my parents are dead now, so I try not to speak ill of the dead.

Point is, life makes us who we are, and it is what we chose to do with it that sets our course, I set my course to be kind and gentle, caring and sharing, and to be helpful. Mostly, I am a shoulder to cry on, a good listener, and empathetic.

I am a leader, a teacher, a poet, a philosopher and a dreamer.

Should Ponies be for boys or girls? I say, who cares? They are for anyone who accepts them into their lives, and who cares what bullies think?

MLP:FiM teaches only good things, with a wonderful show, and it is wholesome for the family. Dang betcha, This here Pegasister is here to stay!
Title: Re: Is the "Ponies for Little Girls" thing going to end someday?
Post by: Spiralfeather on 2015 Apr 20, 01:50:11
Honestly, I'm scared to think of what the G5 ponies will look like  :I
Anyway, jokes aside, I still think it will keep the appeal to young girls, but after the boom in older viewers I think it will be less so. G4 was already a huge step away from what the original My Little Ponies were, and I don't think there's much more they can do to MLP to please bronies and stay true to the original 'Younger Girls' concept. If they lose that, MLP won't really be part of the legacy anymore, and it would actually be kinda sad for future MLPs to branch off into their own line.
As for people who bully others about MLP, I have no time for them. No matter what age, people have the right to like whatever they want, and if others have a problem with that, then it really says something about them. It says they are sad and bored people who have nothing better to do then pick on other people for what they like, rather then finding a suitable pastime like ping pong, or getting a life.
Bronies and Pegasisters will fight through it aaaaaall~  :D