I have a shoe box

[Princess_Luna]

save it! then when the zombie apocolups starts you can eat it... or keep a small zombie in it

[The Wandering Magus]

...use it as a miniature landscape?

[ChocolateRain]

Okay, fine!

Assuming box width = about 20 cm (not length) = 0.2 m
Carbon atom radius = 77.2 pm (assuming carbon's the biggest common atom in there) -> diameter = 144.4 pm = 144.4 * 10^-12 m

Box width / atom diameter ~= 1.38 * 10^9

Log base 2 of that thing > 30

Therefore, you could divide the boxes 30 times and still have boxes larger than an atom. This means that you could have a total of 2^30 boxes = over a billion boxes. Still pretty impressive.

Yeah... One can do lot's of fancy stuff with that many boxes... E. g. building amazing sculptures... Like a mole. Guess this would take a mole of boxes.

[Princess_Luna]

Okay, fine!

Assuming box width = about 20 cm (not length) = 0.2 m
Carbon atom radius = 77.2 pm (assuming carbon's the biggest common atom in there) -> diameter = 144.4 pm = 144.4 * 10^-12 m

Box width / atom diameter ~= 1.38 * 10^9

Log base 2 of that thing > 30

Therefore, you could divide the boxes 30 times and still have boxes larger than an atom. This means that you could have a total of 2^30 boxes = over a billion boxes. Still pretty impressive.

i wish i knew what your talking about becuse it sounds intresting.... can you maybe dumb it down for me? say... 7th grade level, 'cuse i do wish to know what that is.

[Tiger]

I GOT ANOTHER SHOE BOX!!

*da da da daaaaaaaa*

[lurk852]

Yeah... One can do lot's of fancy stuff with that many boxes... E. g. building amazing sculptures... Like a mole. Guess this would take a mole of boxes.

Avogadro's Boxes. 

Okay, fine!

Assuming box width = about 20 cm (not length) = 0.2 m
Carbon atom radius = 77.2 pm (assuming carbon's the biggest common atom in there) -> diameter = 144.4 pm = 144.4 * 10^-12 m

Box width / atom diameter ~= 1.38 * 10^9

Log base 2 of that thing > 30

Therefore, you could divide the boxes 30 times and still have boxes larger than an atom. This means that you could have a total of 2^30 boxes = over a billion boxes. Still pretty impressive.

i wish i knew what your talking about becuse it sounds intresting.... can you maybe dumb it down for me? say... 7th grade level, 'cuse i do wish to know what that is.

Sure - so I'm assuming that any time you have a shoebox, you can trade it away for two shoeboxes, each of which is half as large. So let's say you start with a normal-sized box, then you trade it and get two half-sized boxes - then you can trade each of those, so you end up with four quarter-sized boxes.

If you're not familiar with exponents, 2^(number) = multiply 2 by 2, and then by 2 again, etc. until you've done it (number) times. So:
2^2 = 2*2 = 4
2^3 = 2*2*2 = 8
2^4 = 2*2*2*2 = 16 etc.
Then you have logarithms, which are just reversed exponents; saying "log 16 = 4" means you have to divide 16 four times to get 2.

The number of boxes you have after (number) trades is just 2^(number), and the boxes you get are 2^(number) times smaller. Basically, I'm just seeing how many times I can divide the original shoebox's size by 2, without getting smaller than an atom. I used logarithms to find out how many times you can divide your boxes before they get too small, which is 30. So after 30 trades and divides, you have 2^30 tiny boxes, which is about a billion.

I GOT ANOTHER SHOE BOX!!

*da da da daaaaaaaa*

TWO BILLION

[The Wandering Magus]

Okay, fine!

Assuming box width = about 20 cm (not length) = 0.2 m
Carbon atom radius = 77.2 pm (assuming carbon's the biggest common atom in there) -> diameter = 144.4 pm = 144.4 * 10^-12 m

Box width / atom diameter ~= 1.38 * 10^9

Log base 2 of that thing > 30

Therefore, you could divide the boxes 30 times and still have boxes larger than an atom. This means that you could have a total of 2^30 boxes = over a billion boxes. Still pretty impressive.

i wish i knew what your talking about becuse it sounds intresting.... can you maybe dumb it down for me? say... 7th grade level, 'cuse i do wish to know what that is.

atoms = tiny particles that make up everything

box width about 20 centimeters = about 1/5 of a meter

assume the box's atoms are about 144 2/5 picometers (that's one trillionth of a meter- very small!) in diameter (largest length of a sphere)

so the width of the box divided by the diameter is about 1.39 billion atoms across!

how many times do you have to multiply by two to get that number if you start with two?  over thirty times!

Therefore, you could divide the boxes 30 times and still have boxes larger than an atom!  that's over a billion boxes!

[lurk852]

Okay, fine!

Assuming box width = about 20 cm (not length) = 0.2 m
Carbon atom radius = 77.2 pm (assuming carbon's the biggest common atom in there) -> diameter = 144.4 pm = 144.4 * 10^-12 m

Box width / atom diameter ~= 1.38 * 10^9

Log base 2 of that thing > 30

Therefore, you could divide the boxes 30 times and still have boxes larger than an atom. This means that you could have a total of 2^30 boxes = over a billion boxes. Still pretty impressive.

i wish i knew what your talking about becuse it sounds intresting.... can you maybe dumb it down for me? say... 7th grade level, 'cuse i do wish to know what that is.

atoms = tiny particles that make up everything

box width about 20 centimeters = about 1/5 of a meter

assume the box's atoms are about 144 2/5 picometers (that's one trillionth of a meter- very small!) in diameter (largest length of a sphere)

so the width of the box divided by the diameter is about 1.39 billion atoms across!

how many times do you have to multiply by two to get that number if you start with two?  over thirty times!

Therefore, you could divide the boxes 30 times and still have boxes larger than an atom!  that's over a billion boxes!

"...And that's terrible."

Spoiler: show

[ChocolateRain]

I GOT ANOTHER SHOE BOX!!

*da da da daaaaaaaa*

OMG OMG OMG

That's amazing! Now I want a box too... Wait... I've got some boxes around.

[Flamestriker]

I've got about 12. 

[Princess_Luna]

Okay, fine!

Assuming box width = about 20 cm (not length) = 0.2 m
Carbon atom radius = 77.2 pm (assuming carbon's the biggest common atom in there) -> diameter = 144.4 pm = 144.4 * 10^-12 m

Box width / atom diameter ~= 1.38 * 10^9

Log base 2 of that thing > 30

Therefore, you could divide the boxes 30 times and still have boxes larger than an atom. This means that you could have a total of 2^30 boxes = over a billion boxes. Still pretty impressive.

i wish i knew what your talking about becuse it sounds intresting.... can you maybe dumb it down for me? say... 7th grade level, 'cuse i do wish to know what that is.

Sure - so I'm assuming that any time you have a shoebox, you can trade it away for two shoeboxes, each of which is half as large. So let's say you start with a normal-sized box, then you trade it and get two half-sized boxes - then you can trade each of those, so you end up with four quarter-sized boxes.

If you're not familiar with exponents, 2^(number) = multiply 2 by 2, and then by 2 again, etc. until you've done it (number) times. So:
2^2 = 2*2 = 4
2^3 = 2*2*2 = 8
2^4 = 2*2*2*2 = 16 etc.
Then you have logarithms, which are just reversed exponents; saying "log 16 = 4" means you have to divide 16 four times to get 2.

The number of boxes you have after (number) trades is just 2^(number), and the boxes you get are 2^(number) times smaller. Basically, I'm just seeing how many times I can divide the original shoebox's size by 2, without getting smaller than an atom. I used logarithms to find out how many times you can divide your boxes before they get too small, which is 30. So after 30 trades and divides, you have 2^30 tiny boxes, which is about a billion.

ok thank you for clearing that up

[Vertigo]

... can you maybe dumb it down for me? say... 7th grade level, 'cuse i do wish to know what that is.
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Are you calling me dumb? 

[Princess_Luna]

no... i just did not understand it, irl im in 7th grade so i dont know much about math. why would you think the question had to do with you or somepony else being dumb?

[The Wandering Magus]

misunderstandings, I'm sure, correct, Vertigo?  I'm sure McSleuth can come over if you REALLY need serious clarification, but of course everything's settled now.

Back on topic!

[ChocolateRain]

Back on topic!

I've made a gift today and didn't put it into a shoe box but in a plastic bag... Does that make me a bad pony?

[The Wandering Magus]

Back on topic!

I've made a gift today and didn't put it into a shoe box but in a plastic bag... Does that make me a bad pony?

you're an awesome pony for giving a gift!

[Tiger]

... can you maybe dumb it down for me? say... 7th grade level, 'cuse i do wish to know what that is.

Are you calling me dumb? 
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*removed the extra smiley*
... She wasn't even talking to you at all! How did you even come to such a conclusion!?

Anyway, lately I've been using my two boxes as a box table covered with my cheetah-print blanket (no real fur/skin used) to make a cheetah box table on my bed

But, any ideas, still?

[lurk852]

If you have a guinea pig, you could cut a door in it and give it to your pig as a combination house/snack. Guinea pigs love shoeboxes 

...but you probably don't. 

[Tiger]

Nope, I don't. No pets here 
That's a cute idea though.

[Book Smarts]

Make it into a pair of shoes